― gygax!, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 23:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter.
The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed the troll" as part of a followup to troll postings.
-- The Jargon File
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 23:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― gygax!, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 00:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
Also, you said something about not knowing the historical context. First off, since this was about emo-kids, the historical context doesnt really matter. Do you think any modern day whiney teen listening to Saves the Day, has any clue about the post-Minor Threat DC movement of the mid-80s? Thats what Im considering emo (even though I dont particularly like the old emo either). And why not? If emo-kids call it emo, then it's emo. And if not, if its something else, well, its still crap. Crap that eminated towards a shift-to-crap in the mid-80s.
― David Allen, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 00:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
(tom sez this week.)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 00:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 17 October 2002 04:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
EVERYONE PLEASE GO READ FOURFA.COM
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― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 10 February 2003 22:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
You love Billy Corgan now? Aw, sweet!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 February 2003 23:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
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PoP is fucking brilliant; I think the vocalist is in jail for running a meth lab that poisoned his kid.
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 19:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
anyway, a few years ago i read a HIGH-larious bit online about emo that broke down all the childhood tropes that define the (ahem) lifestyle. for the life of me i can't remember where i read this. anyone got a link?
(sorry for the lack of detail. i lost memory headbanging to universal order of armaggedon, all those years ago.)
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 02:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 03:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 05:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
...and I have sex.
Me.
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― praying mantis (praying mantis), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link
She drew on our windows with the Crayola markers that you can draw on the windows with and erase easily. Themed for the holiday or the season. A heart one, a snowy one, a Christmas one.
She left Safeway bags in the shower. All the time. Everyday I'd go in and have to pick a Safeway bag of cold water off of the bottom of the shower. She had dreadlocks. She didn't want her hair to get wet, I guess. She put the bag over her head. And she put on the wax while we were watching TV.
She said she hated the Ramones and that she started liking rap after she saw Eight Mile and when her friend came over they listened to Eminem and drank bottles of beer and kept saying stuff like, 'Oh my God! I can't believe I used to like this! Ha ha ha!' because they were so smart and -- listen -- she had this stupid, stupid plan to start a band and they had all of these stupid plans -- it won't sound good with me describing it but when I remembered it just now, I felt angry and -- they had this plan where they would slowly remove instruments from the stage and, man, it was so, so stupid and they just went on and on.
I forget exactly what she wrote in her diary about me. It was because I wrote stuff on the mirror when it was fogged up. When I was standing there, right after I got out of the shower. You write things on the mirror. I don't know what. And when it fogged up again the writing was there again and she thought it was a ghost and I overheard her discussing it with the other girl who lived there and Amanda was saying how the house was haunted. And then she wrote in her diary that she thought it was me who had written something on the mirror and that I was creepy. Tat's the exact word she used, even: 'creepy.' She wrote something like, 'Is it normal to write stuff on mirrors?'
She had a poster of George Bush on her door with all the mis-saying that he'd said. When we watched TV together and we saw George Bush she'd always have to say something about how he looked stupid and evil.
She left the book right out on the couch, too. A stupid orange book with a sun that she wrote in with stupid kid pens.
The guy from Filmmaker got drunk at our house once while I was hiding in my bedroom playing Minesweeper and listening to Ashanti.
She ate a plastic carton of strawberries I had in the fridge.
She had a toque with ears on it.
I have some weird pictures of her underwear. I will upload them.
― d k (d k), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 16:37 (twenty years ago) link
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― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Saturday, 13 May 2006 13:12 (eighteen years ago) link
punk kids be all like dis.......
fank you apollo!!
― jonathon, Saturday, 13 May 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
You shouldn't have abandoned them! ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 May 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― EMO INDIE SCENE ALL IN ONE, Sunday, 21 May 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Ex_Mortem (Ex_mortem), Monday, 29 May 2006 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm a metalhead, i listen to heavy metal, death metal, i wear black, because i feel most comfortable in black, am i emo? Do i slit my wrists? no on both counts. I mean who the fuck calls Iron Maiden EMO? There is the other type of metal as well, with 'growling' vocals, now people who get SCREAMO confused with growling vocals are just dumb, because growling has been around for decades, and it sounds nothing like the screamo stuff today,
A lesson in history for all of you, first up, Iron maidens 'number of the beast' has a massive scream after the first few lines, is that screamo? NO. is that emo? NO.
The term 'emo' or 'emotionaly hardcore' actually came from bands in the 70s\80s who would break down and cry on stage in the middle of songs, THATS where it came from, not some 2002 generation 'i hate my life so i'll slit my wrists' shit.
End.
― relay3r, Monday, 29 May 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link