Vampire Weekend - Modern Vampires of the City

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was always*

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

Where once Koenig cared about Louis Vuitton now he cares about love and death

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i think this is all kinds of off the mark

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

the usual overestimation of lyrics, among other things

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

Let's face it, he's just the singer of Sublime reincarnated in the body of an upper class New York aesthete.

Moodles, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

it's pretty clearly an album about god

Mordy, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

And immigration, history, New York, love and death.

I like the Grantland review a lot actually. Only goes wrong by underrating the emotional investment of the earlier albums that he clearly wasn't that into. I think he gets this one right.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

unbelievers, everlasting arms, finger back, worship you, ya hey, young lion - i count like a dozen or so references to god/divinity/faith/religion

Mordy, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

"only goes wrong by underrating the emotional investment of the earlier albums that he clearly wasn't that into"

and this is a pretty big wrong to make

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

especially if your whole thesis is "it was like this before, now it's like this"

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

I don't mind that he likes this album best -- I question his assumptions.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

Which ones?

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

that albums become deeper when lyrics abandon references to brands and clothes

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

This grantland think piece is terrible:
"Vampire Weekend's latest, Modern Vampires of the City (out May 14), defuses the conversation around the group's first two albums by walking away from it completely."

tarping, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

I agree that sets up too many false oppositions in order to explain why he suddenly likes VW rather than engaging with the first two albums again and realising that this is an evolution rather than a U-turn.

I just think Hyden's a good critic who makes a lot of smart points a, so I feel compelled to defend him from the "god this is terrible" pile-on.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

oh he might be a good critic!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

i like Diane Young and Ya Hey better than any of their other songs. I haven't listened to the whole record yet, but these songs are more sonically interesting, I think.

Treeship, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

yeah hyden's just fine i just have a problem with a lot of his arguments on this partic. piece

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

Just heard Diane Young for the first time. My goodness that is a good song.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 23:47 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it rules... i would almost go as far to say that nothing in their previous albums prepared me for it. although, i should disclose that i was always weirdly prejudiced against this band because the drummer went to my high school and this like, caused me to see them as super obnoxious and preppy. with time i learned that i don't really care about that stuff though. my high school experience wasn't that bad.

Treeship, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

What is it about Koenig's vocals that makes it seem like he sees and understands all yr good parts and bad parts and how they fit together

ftr this might be the most wrong thing i have EVER seen written about this band. TIM....

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

Here's another insufferable piece: The New Yorker asks, like, should I even bother?

@GracieLoPan #fyi (Display Name (this cannot be changed):), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

digital rockabilly is always dope. I kind of wanna sing "Jack U Off" over "Diane Young" tho.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

man i feel 4 that critic. like who has 70 minutes to listen to those first two albums and correct the blind spot when you have to write a piece about how you haven't heard 70 minutes worth of music.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 00:25 (eleven years ago) link

Here's another insufferable piece: The New Yorker asks, like, should I even bother?

― @GracieLoPan #fyi (Display Name (this cannot be changed):),

I'm so sorry I read this.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

i can't wait for sfj tell-all piece about how he's never actually listened to an album all the way through. and then david denby will write one about how he always falls asleep during movies with subtitles... it would be a cool new direction for the New Yorker.

Treeship, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 00:41 (eleven years ago) link

Couldn't resist commenting on the NYer piece...

On first listen it sounded subdued, but I was at work and not properly focusing on it. Liking it ten times better on headphones right now.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 03:05 (eleven years ago) link

I might be completely off the mark (not as much as moodles who compared them to Sublime) but the sound of this album reminds me of Spoon, albeit less antiseptic. Which has always been my beef with Spoon, I want to like them but they always sound too controlled.... too tight. VW dont seem to have this problem.

Moka, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 05:25 (eleven years ago) link

What is it about Koenig's vocals that makes it seem like he sees and understands all yr good parts and bad parts and how they fit together

ftr this might be the most wrong thing i have EVER seen written about this band. TIM....

― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 00:06 (6 hours ago) Permalink

I'm not claiming that he does this on "Diane Young", it's more an album track kinda thing, but I wouldn't expect you to agree with me in any event obv.

Tim F, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 07:06 (eleven years ago) link

He's good at writing evenhanded studies of flawed characters.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 08:12 (eleven years ago) link

Finally listening and this album is kind of tremendous btw.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 08:13 (eleven years ago) link

Fastnbulbous
5 hours ago
If the New Yorker stopped paying you to write about music you can't be bothered to listen to, that would not be a tremendous loss either.

Ha ha

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 08:49 (eleven years ago) link

Lex, have you listened to Vampire Weekend long enough to know whether Tim's observation is right or not? I doubt it. I think he's otm about Ezra's emotional intelligence, which has always been underrated.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 08:52 (eleven years ago) link

i've listened to enough VW to know that he has a fucking horrible voice

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

i also discovered last week he does fake patois on the major lazer album ;_;

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 09:46 (eleven years ago) link

Thank you for your insights.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 11:55 (eleven years ago) link

Good Ezra line in the Pitchfork interview: "The perfect tone is halfway between deeply serious and totally fucking around. If you don’t give Vampire Weekend credit for any type of self-awareness or humor, you’re always going to have this crazy impression of us.”

http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/9125-vampire-weekend/

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 12:11 (eleven years ago) link

lex get ouuuuut we're not trolling dawn richard threads

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

xpost I don't mind that New Yorker piece. Tons of music I feel I should have listened to that I just haven't. Nice to see someone admitting it for a change. If you work in an office where playing music isn't possible, and have a family rather than living in a garret, then keeping up with things is all but fucking impossible simply because the opportunities to listen to music properly are so rare. Now I do much more writing than editing, I listen to less and less, because I'm generally having to listen fairly closely to what I'm actually writing about, rather than casting around to see what's good and what's not.

If you tolerate Bis, then Kenickie will be next (ithappens), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

You're right about how hard it is to keep up, but the manner in which Greenman penned that kinda bugs me.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

But it only takes 70 minutes to catch up on their catalogue

Gukbe, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

Why would he lie about how much time he had? Why would he lie about something dumb like that?

Treeship, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

Lol

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

lol

balls, Thursday, 9 May 2013 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

Greenman piece is reasonable to me, and I can totally relate to it.

Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 9 May 2013 04:05 (eleven years ago) link

Ditto. Some things I decide not to hear / investigate. Always been the case.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 9 May 2013 05:40 (eleven years ago) link

What is it about Koenig's vocals that makes it seem like he sees and understands all yr good parts and bad parts and how they fit together

ftr this might be the most wrong thing i have EVER seen written about this band. TIM....

― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, May 7, 2013 5:06 PM Bookmark

I kind of want Ezra Koenig to write a song about lex now.

The Reverend, Thursday, 9 May 2013 07:34 (eleven years ago) link

"I Think Ur A Contra" IIRC

Tim F, Thursday, 9 May 2013 09:04 (eleven years ago) link

Ha ha. Lex is such a contra.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 9 May 2013 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

i think he's more of a samantha

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 9 May 2013 13:16 (eleven years ago) link


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