Yeah, I definitely think Monster is the New Jersey of R.E.M.'s catalogue.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 9 May 2013 12:43 (eleven years ago) link
Guess you could throw Hail To The Thief into this, too.
― illegalblues, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't read the whole thread but that bono gif makes me wonder : what was U2's already ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
This was disputed repeatedly, "Rattle & Hum" fits in the sense of "huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow" but "career decline" doesn't quite hold up. Apparently it's "How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb."
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
hum. I don't know anybody who owns or likes "dismantle" (and I've never listened to it).I'd rather say "zooropa" or "pop" but maybe it's more linked to my own interest in that band.anyway, I won't get into the dispute...thanks for the update !
will "random access memory" be daft punk's "new jersey" ? (or was it "human after all" ?)
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
I think "dismantle" may actually have been a huge album but just not in the world of anybody I hang out or talk to, see also that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
Dismantle, definitely.
HTTF wasn't that much of an event album and In Rainbows is no decline. I think Radiohead managed to rewrite the rock-career script sufficiently to avoid a New Jersey. With the greatest respect to Amnesiac, it was no Slippery When Wet.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
every time someone on this thread says what their friends thought about an album that didn't even gold, I kill an angel.
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
The King Of Limbs may be Radiohead's New Jersey... a huge amount of people were waiting in anticipation for it on the back of In Rainbows and a large percentage of those people were ultimately disappointed. If their next album is shite, then it undoubtedly is The King Of Limbs.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
*kills angel*
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
hey now, KoL went gold
that poor angle, murdered for nothing
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
much like my speling
yeah, yeah, but the angel still had to die on principle
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
xp I guess based on Beck's non-platinum status for several of his albums, he's ineligible for a New Jersey.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
the idea was to limit the concept to albums and artists that were actually "huge," so that we could nerd out over stats rather than have dinks debating which Apples In Stereo album was the first to suck
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
that reminds me, This Timeless Turning was totally Sky Cries Mary's New Jersey
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
no way, everybody at my college radio station was mad excited about Exit At The Axis and I always knew that was poopie and nobody talk about it now, totally their new jersey
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
isn't Beck kinda huger than whatever weirdo bands you guys are joking about?
― billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
"Fugue in D minor" was totally Bach's New Jersey. It was all downhill after that.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
Hey now, I am just encouraging what I think is a specifically hilarious fit of pique, no need to get defensive.
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
haha i realize i'm being ridiculous, believe me. but i'm still going to wail on anybody who either can't grasp the concept, can't bother to read the thread, or check wikipedia to verify their hunches about which albums sold how much. if a chart nerd can't police a chart nerd thread then what's the point in being a chart nerd.
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
chart groupies
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
no i'm like creed, i spurn them on route to the stage and then float above the throng
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
and this thread is the hotel bar where i wait for 311 to walk by
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
Were there New Jersey's prior to the '80s?
― billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
there was definitely a thread prior to today
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
oh yes, i see a couple listed now. 95% of these are after the mid 80s
― billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
well that's partially a factor of poster age and comfort zone mixed in with the context of calling it a "New Jersey"; clearly the phenomenon has existed since people started buying music
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
also the fact that gauging multiplatinum success is easier after the riaa starting giving out the multi-platinum awards
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
In 1976, RIAA introduced the platinum certification, first awarded to Johnnie Taylor's single, "Disco Lady", and to the Eagles album, Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975). As music sales increased with the introduction of compact discs, the RIAA created the Multi-Platinum award in 1984. Diamond awards, honoring those artists whose sales of singles or albums reached 10,000,000 copies, were introduced in 1999.
so basically, the only pre-80s albums to have multi-platinum certification are the ones who bother to get it
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
pretty sure yo la tengo's 3x platinum 'summer sun' has the whiff of new jersey, and i'm not talking about hoboken
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 9 May 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
I stand by my theory that New Jerseys depend on a certain way of marketing albums over a long period of time, and effectively only existed between Thriller and MP3s, although outliers can be found.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
Is it too early to declare Katy Perry's Prism a New Jersey?
― J. Sam, Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link
hüsker dü - candy apple grey, yea?
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
katy perry otm
da croupier getting hella salty as this thread ages, i love it
― alpine static, Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:09 (ten years ago) link
90's US underground version of this is Jesus Lizard's Down
― Master of Treacle, Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:38 (ten years ago) link
Candy Apple Grey for me works.....at least sonically. Real sense that it is Flip Your Wig mk2
Would be easier to say had the latter album been released, as originally planned, on Warners
― Master of Treacle, Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:41 (ten years ago) link
remember when Flip Your Wig sold 5 million copies?
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Friday, 23 May 2014 00:25 (ten years ago) link
lol still
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 00:38 (ten years ago) link
guys "event albums"
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 May 2014 01:23 (ten years ago) link
arcade fire - reflektor
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 01:40 (ten years ago) link
Even if we say Reflektor is big enough as a record, I think it's too much of an "artistic change-up," which may disqualify it from New Jersey status. My read is that the most universally agreed-upon New Jerseys in this thread (like Afterburner), have a "more of the same" feel.
― intheblanks, Friday, 23 May 2014 01:49 (ten years ago) link
truehate to say it but could Animal Collective's Centipede Hz be their New Jersey?
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 02:43 (ten years ago) link
feel like you're maybe trolling the originators of this theory
― intheblanks, Friday, 23 May 2014 02:54 (ten years ago) link
ahhh ok, even though i LOVE this record, …. Gaucho by Steely Dan?
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 03:29 (ten years ago) link
wut? they basically broke up after thet album
― cock chirea, Friday, 23 May 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link
The Cult - Sonic Temple
last records cant be a new jersey?
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link
i would call a 20 year break up a 'career decline'
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 03:33 (ten years ago) link