http://i.imgur.com/yWLqzbl.jpg
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
lol/poor Steve
― scintilla (seandalai), Saturday, 11 May 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
Goddamnit, why don't I check that stuff BEFORE I throw it only? Moderator, please remove that first image!
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/bvoFwNB.jpg
haha
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/poHIxrd.jpg
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
(and I really hope that that's Jim...)
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
Lol some dude = good dude.
Couldnt vote in the favorite member poll, just didnt feel right but Steve is def one of the great rock drummers of the last 25 years
― Drugs A. Money, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
i voted for steve and my name is not william, i demand a recount
― seanpennderizer (some dude), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
ha oh n/m i had only looked at the first img
― seanpennderizer (some dude), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/QTELgw4.jpg
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
ha, nice reveal. Thank goodness some dude's vote for Steve is saving us from an awkward Stalinized band photo. (Unless I dunno Jim Sclavunos ousts Kim.)
― ohmigud (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/2uEyZNI.jpg
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
Wow, I remember in the 90s, Lee was often the fans' choice. Seems like it's still the case.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
Are people able to distinguish Thurston's and Lee's playing on the albums? I assume that most of the more traditionally melodic lead parts are Lee but otherwise, I can never tell by listening. Not like listening to, I dunno Clapton and Allman or Metheny/Scofield.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
Phh. I shouldn't say this here but I struggle to distinguish between their voices sometimes.
― kraudive, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
I always thought Lee had the noisy parts!
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
Speaking of Lee:http://i.imgur.com/vXaGuhI.jpg
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
They both do plenty of noisy parts, though. Some of the most 'out' stuff is Lee, you're right, e.g. the 'antennabox' on "Antenna" or the prepared guitar on "She's in a Bad Mood". But Thurston also did prepared guitar on the first two albums and played the guitar with a drumstick (iirc?) on "Burning Spear". In any live stuff I've seen, they both do plenty of the Hendrix-style feedback. I thought most of the parts that sound like 'normal' rock lead guitar solos were Lee though? The "Pacific Coast Highway" solo is him, right? "Purr" sounds like it's split up. Even that's not too reliable, though: doesn't Thurston play the solo on "Washing Machine"?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
Thurston has some pretty distinctive strumming rhythms that make his stuff stick out pretty often, a lot of time in those riffy sections Lee has more of the 'lead' lines. but there have definitely been times when i visualize one or the other playing particular parts, but then i see them play the song live and i had it totally backwards.
― seanpennderizer (some dude), Saturday, 11 May 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
You guys don't deserve Steve.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
The lead guitar parts on "Chapel Hill": those are Lee?
xpost Fripp/Belew on 80s KC is another example where it's really easy to distinguish the guitarists.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
the huge gap in votes between thurston and kim is pretty funny, wonder what it would've looked like before that elle interview ran
― seanpennderizer (some dude), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
Even you didn't vote for him!
I didn't vote for a favourite band member btw. I almost never have a favourite member of a band, most especially with a band like this where the ensemble playing is so much the point (to the point where we have trouble identifying which guitarist is playing what).
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't vote, I did a list but I am a little too shy.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
I voted in this poll, like the band, have most of their records...but I find Thurston & Kim insufferable. anytime I read anything that those said, or hear them talk, I want to throw their records in the trash.
― Euler, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
honestly i don't think any list of best SY album covers shouldn't include Washing Machine
― seanpennderizer (some dude), Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:39 AM (9 hours ago)
Sadly, it received just one vote, just like A Thousand Leaves, Confusion Is Sex, Goodbye 20th Century, Sonic Nurse and The Whitey Album
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:41 AM (9 hours ago)
all of which are less ugly than all of the 2nd and 3rd place finishers, w/the possible exception of bad moon rising.
(lol, just noticed some dude's handle)
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
Seriously? I don't at all see the appeal of the Washing Machine and ATL covers.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Cm4HUkG.png
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51GA9bBKSpL.jpg10. Dirty(25 points, 7 votes)
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
washing machine cover is clean, simple & rather clever, imo.
ATL cover is awfully a bit heavy-handed, but well-designed, texturally interesting. plus i like marnie weber.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
http://991.com/NewGallery/Sonic-Youth-Confusion-Is-Sex-277107.jpg9. Confusion Is Sex(26 points, 8 votes)
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
^ my favorite SY cover, that and sav's "death valley 69" drawing
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
(we are counting down ALBUMS now, not COVERS :)
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/sonicyouth_record.jpg8. Washing Machine(27 points, 9 votes)
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/019/238/0001923899_500.jpg7. Sonic Nurse(29 points, 12 votes)
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
Steve is my second favourite band member, if that helps him sleep at night.
― the so-called socialista (dowd), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://criticalmassesmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/badmooncover.jpeg6. Bad Moon Rising(33 points, 10 votes)
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
too low.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.drawuslines.com/wp-content/themes/tma/images/bg/Murray-Street.jpg5. Murray Street(34 points, 13 votes)
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
too low
― Euler, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
figure goo's up next?
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
Nope.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6qkdbcy2N1rxa0n6o1_500.jpg4. A Thousand Leaves(35 points, 12 votes)
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
dang! slap me silly. okay w this though.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
Goo is right where it belongs, at 11 or 12.
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
yup. it's my least favourite of their albums.
― the so-called socialista (dowd), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
Huh. Surprised at A Thousand Leaves placing so high.
― kraudive, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
If I were voting 100% based on how good the albums sounded to me when I was listening over the past week, I might have voted for Murray Street (or POSSIBLY Sonic Nurse) over Evol, despite some of the reservations I mentioned on the other thread.
xposts There was a lot of love for ATL on the first thread. It doesn't hold up that great for me on the whole, despite a lot of good ideas and some excellent moments. I didn't end up voting for a single song from it.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
It's the Macaulay Culkin effect.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
ATL would sit just outside my top 5.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
Missed the grand finale as well, but caught up to the thread and love how it turned out, especially since "fan faves" like Cotton Crown and PCH and Theresa's Sound World all cracked the top 20. Always felt Theresa was a classic from the first time I heard it, glad to see others feel similarly. It really benefits from the sleek production, in the same measure that Inhuman works with its swampy, humid production. I've rated that as my #1 for years, it'll never change. It totally sounds like steam rising off of an overworked mesh of gears to me. I think I read somewhere that someone spilled a can of Coke on the masters for Confusion is Sex, and ever since then I've loved hearing it all as a rotten, sticky mess. Certainly my fave LP of theirs by a mile. Happy to see Lee is Free almost make the top 100!
inhumanhyperstationthe diamond seaschizophreniatotal trashshe's in a bad moodi love her all the timethe sprawllee is freepchbrother jamesprotect me youshadow of a doubttitanium exposemadonna sean and me (aka expressway to yr skull)eliminator jri dreamed i dreamthe world looks redcotton crownsociety is a holethe bedroom (aka the destroyed room)providencebeauty lies in the eyeteen age riotsugar kanemacbethjcsweet shinetheresa's sound worldtunic
― today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Monday, 20 May 2013 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
I completely agree with contenderizer about the first half of "Mote". The noisy instrumental section, however, never really seems to go anywhere and doesn't justify its length for me (and I'm a "Diamond Sea" fan). However, this is almost reversed in that live version! Ranaldo either didn't pull off or changed the melody, which was a big part of the song's appeal. However, that noise interlude is fantastic, with real motion, and segues so effortlessly into "New Hampshire". And the version of "New Hampshire" is great! They really work that coda. Such tight players by that point. Know where that clip is from?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 May 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, Lee's vocals are a little shaky, but I find the music all around great (and yeah, the segue specifically is really tight). I do not know where the show is, but there are at least a few other clips from it on Youtube. It is dated, so you can go onto the SY site and find the archive for the show I imagine.
― grandavis, Monday, 20 May 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
On the rare occasions Lee sang two songs back to back, it was usually "Mote" segueing into "Hoarfrost," which was awesome
― yeeznuts (some dude), Monday, 20 May 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
Shit, sorry, thought it was dated but was wrong. Seems like they opened with Pacific Coast Highway, so that might help. Here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f_bb7iVfak&NR=1&feature=endscreen
― grandavis, Monday, 20 May 2013 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
Shit again. That video was already posted upthread (maybe even by you ....)
― grandavis, Monday, 20 May 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
Disintegration Notice?
huh! Yeah. Hadn't noticed that - I'm pretty sure my first place vote was picked up correctly despite my lack of care.
― kraudive, Monday, 20 May 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
Seems like that show is 08/04/04 -- Montreal, PQ @ Metropolis, as it is the only show from 2004 where they do a "Mote-->New Hampshire" and a "Pacific Coast Highway" where they would have come from offstage and gone right into it (it was an encore, not an opener).
Set list:
I Love You Golden BlueEmpty PagePattern RecognitionUnmade BedPaper Cup ExitBull in the HeatherStonesMariah CareyMoteNew HampshireDude Ranch NurseBrother James--PCHSugar Kane--Making the Nature Scene
― grandavis, Monday, 20 May 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
The 08/04 was inside, at the Metropolis. It was my very first show!
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 20 May 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah heres my list of traxx:
01 death valley '6902 shadow of a doubt 03 schizophrenia04 diamond sea 05 theresa's sound-world 06 society is a hole 07 pacific coast highway 08 karen revisited 09 personality crisis10 expressway to yr skull 11 addicted to love12 bull in the heather13 kill yr idols14 100%15 karen koltrane16 candle17 eric's trip 18 rain on tin 19 tv shit EP20 unmade bed 21 dirty boots22 kool thing 23 becuz24 two cool rock chix listening to neu
― Lamp, Monday, 20 May 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
just had a look what i had in common in my ballot with everyone else:- closest was da croupier with 12 songs- furthest was raymond cummings with 2 songs
whatever that means...
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 20 May 2013 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
Lamp has like 30% the same ballot as me! ::hugglez::
― yeeznuts (some dude), Monday, 20 May 2013 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
Where's Glenn when you need him?
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 20 May 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
A mall store close by has had some SY CDs on the wall for $4.99; bought NYC Ghosts & Flowers and Murray Street, which I've never had, and also A Thousand Leaves--I bought that on vinyl a few years ago, but vinyl at home tends to be background for me these days, and I don't really listen attentively to something new unless it's in the car. So I've essentially been listening to A Thousand Leaves for the first time too.
Two songs I would have had on my ballot for sure: "Free City Rhymes" and "Wildflower Soul." I've played the latter six or seven times the last couple of days--perfect driving music. I wish it were 20 minutes long instead of nine.
― clemenza, Saturday, 29 June 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, "Free City Rhymes" is really great. That was my #12.
This poll got me interested in reading David Browne's book Goodbye 20th Century. I think it's great, much better than Foege's earlier book. Interesting to read that as per the discussion on this thread, it really was a deliberate move for them to get sloppy with the albums after Dirty and before O'Rourke, intentionally e.g. recording things in just one take, influenced by bands like Pavement. Also to read about them (or people close to them?) acknowledging that their ambivalence about pursuing fame and mainstream success meant that they never really pursued those things wholeheartedly.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 June 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
Also enjoyed the discussions about their legendary thriftiness.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 June 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
love that book.
sund4r, I only got your webmail about that show in the last week. During the next week I should be able to email you and get that together.
― sleeve, Saturday, 29 June 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
Play this, hit mute (something brilliant, but do it anyway), and play either "Wildflower Soul" or "Kotton Krown" overtop. Sublime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exFokKr-WEg
― clemenza, Saturday, 29 June 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link
The Body/Head album is VICIOUS
Esp the third track, damn. It's the flip of Kim's recent interviews, claws out
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
This whole album slays
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2015/feb/02/kim-gordon-girl-in-a-band-10-things
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
I updated my list
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 March 2017 05:37 (seven years ago) link
Winner's Blues at #7 is something you don't see every day.And only one Lee song? That's madness.
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 5 March 2017 07:34 (seven years ago) link