after the 17:30 mark
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 May 2013 02:30 (eleven years ago) link
Yep.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:30 (eleven years ago) link
you're gonna have to pay me in bitcoins to watch that fyi
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:37 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VApk-vvhp8
― original bgm, Monday, 13 May 2013 03:51 (eleven years ago) link
In which our heroes, former DT drummer Mike Portnoy, Mr. Big's Paul Gilbert, Neal Morse and Mike Bissonette play the Beatles, with fewer strings on their guitars and 1/6 of his Portnoy's usual drum set:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlwMmFZV1XE
Vox ain't bad at least!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 May 2013 12:10 (eleven years ago) link
Loved the glimpse, in the audition video, of the band's bandanna roadie. To think that if I'd only practiced a bit harder, all this might have been mine.
― Vast Halo, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 08:28 (eleven years ago) link
That dude's guitar lesson actually seemed pretty chill. I mean, I hate his playing, but he seems like he would be a really good teacher.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
Petrucci is a really, really nice guy. All of them are (that I've met - I've never had any interactions with Mike Portnoy, though I heard he was kind of a prick; my dealings have been with Petrucci, Jordan Rudess, Mike Mangini and John Myung).
― 誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/55ee1d0ebc933b3e1e320fd05d06b544.png
― j., Tuesday, 1 September 2015 05:25 (eight years ago) link
i love those wiki charts
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 05:30 (eight years ago) link
One time in high school, I was in a music store and they were playing something really bitchin, and I walked up to the counter and saw Dream Theater's Images and Words on the 'Now Playing' stand, and so I bought it and took it out to the car and popped it in the cassette deck and realized very quickly that Dream Theater's Images and Words was most assuredly not the album that was 'Now Playing'.
― Herbie Mann's Push Push Pops (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 12:19 (eight years ago) link
lol! did you go back and figure out what it actually was?
― how's life, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 12:46 (eight years ago) link
No, this was at a point when my family lived forever away from stuff and before I was driving on my own, and going into town was like a once-a-month thing. I kept listening just to be sure, but by the time my error was confirmed there was no turning back. I tried to pretend that I liked it for a long time.
― WHO POOPED IN MY SHOE (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 12:57 (eight years ago) link
This was just after I'd discovered the first Pearl Jam album (pre-MTV) in the same way, so I thought I was really onto something.
― WHO POOPED IN MY SHOE (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link
Damn. The olden days of music-buying were such a gamble.
― how's life, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 13:19 (eight years ago) link
This band plays too well too much.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 14:08 (eight years ago) link
their songs are absolute garbage
― welltris (crüt), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 14:12 (eight years ago) link
It's like virtuoso garbage, as if they know how garbage they are but are so good at what they do that they've tried to figure out tricker or more technical ways to be garbage. It's almost academic.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 14:21 (eight years ago) link
and yet when you add it all up, they've made so many more thousands of people ecstatically happy than most of us ever will
― j., Tuesday, 1 September 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, can't hate on that. Some people watch car commercials for the music.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link
no i mean hate on it
but them's the facts
― j., Tuesday, 1 September 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link
That's why popularity is the worst gauge of quality.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link
new double album coming in January
these guys are far from my favorite prog-metal stuff but it's weird to me how hard people hate on them. they're like the designate hate-recipients
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdPn1mCmqoE
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 4 December 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link
Just got a good lol from that thread title. Of course nabisco was responsible (missin u boo).
I'm pretty sure I told the story in some other thread where I heard an awesome album playing in a music store when I was maybe a freshman in high school and saw a copy of Images And Words in the 'Now Playing' display on the counter and bought the album straight away and discovered fairly quickly that it was most decidedly not the album that was 'Then Playing' and, because I only had the resources to buy maybe one album a month back then, I gave it multiple listens and really did try for a long time to like it but it just didn't take.
― The Featureless Mash That Was Once My Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 December 2015 14:00 (eight years ago) link
Ever since leaving Roadrunner Records I've found myself saying, almost every time they announce a new release, "Wow - glad I don't have to work on that." I actually liked the last Dream Theater album; the songs were, with one exception, short and melodic and relatively radio-friendly. There was one that was basically (by the band's own admission) a tribute to early '80s Rush, and another where Jordan Rudess's synth sounded like something straight off a Kansas album from 1975. Even the 20-minute epic was kinda good, in its own way. (They had to be almost forcibly talked out of opening the album with it, though.) But a double disc concept album, with the singer playing all different characters in every song? (Check out the special website they've built for it; look at the paintings of the characters.) Seriously, you couldn't get me within a mile of this thing.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 4 December 2015 14:10 (eight years ago) link
I hate musicIt's got too many notes
Which is the '80s Rush tribute?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 December 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link
When they get all "emotional" it's like the worst music ever. The crazy pyrotechnic stuff is fun and they seem like cool guys, tho
― brimstead, Friday, 4 December 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link
"but the theory lesson is on the Jordan Rudess online conservatory, and that's a whole different thing. so yeah let's turn on the other planets and see what's going on with this patch!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F_N87hncAsw#t=295
― Milton Parker, Friday, 4 December 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
"this one is called JR AWARENESS."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Looking_Glass_(song)
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 4 December 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
Love the youtube comments, as always:
Michael Lyle 1 year ago When did Rush get so hairy? Reply · 1 Mircea Filip 1 year ago Ne-mai-po-me-nit ! Mai ai multe ? Reply · Asoka Ginting 1 year ago i cant got the goodness here.. Reply · Antonia Yankova 1 year ago i can't wait to see them live at the end of the month! Reply · Jeff Corcoran 1 year ago DT have never been known for stunning music videos. However, this song is amazing, so I'm completely cool with that :D Reply · 1 Vitor Boldrin 1 year ago it sounds like rush's limelight dream theater sucks Reply · 1 James Rockford 1 year ago It's like Toto meets Rush Reply · 1
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 December 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link
Dream Theater To Perform Entire The Astonishing Album On North American Tour
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
The Astonishing: The Performining
― Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
feel like watching the drummer auditions video again.. Is there an edited version with just the actual auditions (sand interview)
― lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 20 December 2015 00:00 (eight years ago) link
Lol 'sans interviews'
What a herculean display of abject jackassery.
This is a spectacular sentence.
― lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 20 December 2015 00:11 (eight years ago) link
I like lots of wank but I just can't get with this
― akm, Sunday, 20 December 2015 00:22 (eight years ago) link
Apparently I have gone insane because I enjoyed a lot of the new album when I listened to it just now.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Monday, 1 February 2016 14:55 (eight years ago) link
This is pretty hilarious: http://www.dreamtheater.net/theastonishing
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link
that owns imo
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link
the last time i listened to dream theater was METROPOLIS PART II: SCENES FROM A MEMORY which i was into when i was like 15. i've been afraid to relisten to it since
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link
I heard a Dream Theater song on the radio yesterday and thought, OK, I'll hear this out, since I'm not sure I've ever really made it more than a minute or two before. I think it was called "Enemy Inside," and it totally encapsulated everything wrong with this band, which is a lot of things all at once, each individual component wrong in the wrongest way. First was that I heard it on sat. radio's "liquid metal" station, which tends toward extreme metal in all its permutations, from Testament to Gojira. Dream Theater is not metal, let alone extreme metal, it's like they read a book about metal and threw in some signifiers to make themselves seem metal, but then fucked it up by trying too hard. The clean sounding everything, the vocals ... just lame. Second, DT thinks it's some sort of intellectual pop-rock crossover a la Rush, but the lyrics are super stupid, the vocalist super lame, and the playing like guys raised on Rush who thought, you know what Rush was missing? Even more overplaying! And then they just lay on the ultra-technical drums and guitars so thick it sounds like a bunch of guys at Guitar Center showing off at once. Third , they think they're a prog band and not just a bunch of techy guys backing Joe Satriani or whatever. Or, I dunno, butt-stupid flash-rock like Racer X. So just as they throw in some metal stuff, or some poppy hooks, they throw in jarring weird time signature instrumental breakdowns with keyboard solos and shit like that sounds like a parody of prog, minus any sort of vision short number of notes per measure.
Basically, they're just trying too hard, all the time, which is a disaster for players so proficient that nothing is hard.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 February 2017 14:32 (seven years ago) link
main crime = boooooooring. there's plenty of prog metal that isn't so....I listen to that.
tho tbh the only prog metal I listen to is Symphony X and Pain of Salvation and the latter have been dull for a decade
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 February 2017 15:02 (seven years ago) link
But see, I like prog and I like metal and I like prog-metal, and I even like boring, but this ... isn't really any of that. It's more like total cheese a la Trans-Siberian Orchestra crossed with crossover Queensryche crossed with Berklee College jam session or some shit like that. Like if someone came up with an AI script that generated prog-metal and them some other snotty programmer threw in some code for Bon Jovi or something, just to fuck with the results.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 February 2017 15:46 (seven years ago) link
what they really need is to get mutt lange to produce them. they'd sound better that way.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Saturday, 25 February 2017 15:48 (seven years ago) link
Well they couldn't sound worse!
They should get Mutt to write and produce, then get other people to play. And then shelve the album anyway.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 February 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link
I try with them sometimes. I don't hate them but nothing really sticks.
they're just trying too hard, all the time
I tend to feel the same way but a lot of non-moronic people obv really love them. So how do we figure them out? I usually just put it down to not being the right mix of things for my taste, in the way that ELP usually is not, even though I love KC/Yes/Genesis. Kris probably somewhat OTM way upthread.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Saturday, 25 February 2017 16:04 (seven years ago) link
the object of dream theater is not to write good music. the object of dream theater is for each individual musician to come up with parts that impress those that play the same instrument so that they can sell instructional tapes and make the cover of Modern Drummer/Modern Goatee Keyboardist/Modern 9-string Bass Player/etc. they represent a different ethos of making and listening to music, a technical path with goals that only occasionally align with the traditional taste spectrum. magazines like modern drummer steer people toward this alternate world early on, when they're learning to play instruments. it's possible to get sucked in early and never return. it's kind of like an aspiring young writer who picks up "how to write magazine", and the first article is all about a writer who can cram more syllables into each sentence then ever thought possible. the second article is about how to write the most complicated sentence that technically still includes a subject and predicate, but disguised so that all but the most advanced readers of How to Write Magazine would never be able to identify them. the third article is just about superlong German words. the feature cover article is about someone who converts major works of literature to ascii art and then "speedreads" the ascii art, flipping through images rapidly to finish moby dick even more quickly than ever thought possible. if you sink yourself into this world for a few years at a formative time, these novelties become the main act, and the practitioners become the gurus who point to new (bad) directions because they're the only ones who care enough about the subject to talk about it.
there's a lot of overlap with all of this and marching band, too
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link
every huge fan of dream theater should know that they would also be a huge fan of the Cavaliers Drum and Bugle Corps. i know this because i was a huge fan of both! they straddle the same view of music
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link
Lol I was a subscriber to Guitar magazine when I learned guitar. Petrucci had a column that bored me to tears.
I remember reading the superlative statements made about the G3 tour crowd and being naive and impressionable, thinking "wow, why does nobody talk about these guys?"
And then went for my first voice lesson at a studio that also had guitar teachers and they had one of these things on loop and that (and when I heard Vai's "Bad Horsie") was when I realized it was guitar MUZAK.
It sucks because then people see technique as a bad word since it could lead to that but largely the reason i gave up guitar was cos i felt my enjoyment of it was stunted because of the things i couldn't do that i wanted to be able to do.
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link