Vampire Weekend - Modern Vampires of the City

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Yeah I didn't mean it's not varied, more that the songs don't feel so self-contained. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Often it's only when a new album comes out that it allows me to understand more specifically what it is that made the previous album special to me.

Tim F, Monday, 13 May 2013 12:50 (eleven years ago) link

I feel all three albums complete each other very well, DL is otm with how it 'traces the emotional arc between the ages of 20 and 27 to perfection.'

Van Horn Street, Monday, 13 May 2013 12:59 (eleven years ago) link

generally idgaf about p4k scores but i'm really happy this album is getting the notice it deserves

Mordy , Monday, 13 May 2013 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

xp so what's that? 1: carefree fun on campus, 2: searching your path in the city, 3:?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 13 May 2013 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

Realising that some plants move.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 13 May 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

The rendition of "Diane Young" on Saturday Night Live did not win me over-- the vocals felt too gimmicky. The 2nd song they did was more interesting to me.

curmudgeon, Monday, 13 May 2013 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

lol why is the entirety of the first paragraph of the Pitchfork review about Ezra Koenig's defunct blog

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

(and the Billy Joel post is not particularly good)

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

also what the hell does "lived-in sonics" mean

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

But "Step" avoids back-patting nostalgia and debunks bogus generational hierarchies while using the past to inspire the present.

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

tim otm, when i first heard the record i was sort of like "there's nothing as uniquely pulling as 'taxi cab' or 'run' on this record," by which i mean the pull is stretched across this new record, instead of located specifically in each song. a tightly drawn sprawl

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

really? "Step," "Unbelievers," and "Finger Back" were instant earworms.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

i'd say "step" yes "unbelievers" sorta but i'm not exactly knocking the songs qua songs

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't heard the whole album yet and barely remember the songs I listened to upthread but the entire Pitchfork review comes across to me like dude's attitude while writing was "thank god they stopped fucking around with polyrhythms and did some good, comfortable white music" and, when he read back his first draft, he panicked and went "how many adjectives can I throw in here so that people won't notice how fucked up my thesis statement is"

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

reposting Koenig's blog address worthwhile for unearting goodies like this:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/856/1336/1600/ez22.jpg

he's playing Zep's "The Ocean."

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:18 (eleven years ago) link

also their earworminess is not integral to their environmental qualities; a lot of these songs seem like extremely developed sketches that hint, subtley and successfully i think, at an implied larger drawing

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't heard the whole album yet and barely remember the songs I listened to upthread but the entire Pitchfork review comes across to me like dude's attitude while writing was "thank god they stopped fucking around with polyrhythms and did some good, comfortable white music" and, when he read back his first draft, he panicked and went "how many adjectives can I throw in here so that people won't notice how fucked up my thesis statement is"

― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Monday, May 13, 2013 10:17 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is pretty shitty

J0rdan S., Monday, 13 May 2013 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

It largely trades in the Africa-inspired giddiness of their first two records for a sound that's distinctly innate and closer to the ear.

hm

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

Really wish people would stop setting up false oppositions between this record and the two that preceded it. Contra is pretty much halfway between this one and the first.

Matt DC, Monday, 13 May 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

well, it's a second record

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't heard the whole album yet and barely remember the songs I listened to upthread but the entire Pitchfork review comes across to me like dude's attitude while writing was "thank god they stopped fucking around with polyrhythms and did some good, comfortable white music" and, when he read back his first draft, he panicked and went "how many adjectives can I throw in here so that people won't notice how fucked up my thesis statement is"

― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Monday, May 13, 2013 10:17 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

They hardly just play 'white' music. They're using reggae samples and screw-vocals and rap-choruses. They're still omnivores, it's just not so focused on rhythms from Africa and the Caribean anymore.

Frederik B, Monday, 13 May 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

Is any critic capable of praising this album without misreading and underrating the first two?

I think the defunct blog is still relevant though in terms of Ezra's interest in pursuing cultural connections. The writer picks up on one example - the new album was heavily influenced by reggae, in terms of subject matter more than sonics, hence the double meaning of the biblical references. And his observation about the font harking back to the vampire movie years ago is smart.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

lol at the idea that vampire weekend have ever been underrated by critics

J0rdan S., Monday, 13 May 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

That's not what I said. I mean the first two have been retrospectively downplayed in order to praise the new one.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

I do think DJP's paraphrase of Dombal's point is really unfair though.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

the gold fact
http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/1012

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

Internet Vibes redux

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/mens-fashion/vampire-weekend-ezra-koenig-style-0513

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

Mike Powell's Spin review:

http://www.spin.com/reviews/vampire-weekend-modern-vampires-of-the-city-xl/

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

And people will probably continue to hate them with an elemental passion because they are friendly, urbane young men who make great use of harpsichords

yes this is the only possible reason anyone could hate them *slow hand clap*

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

pity those friendly, urbane young men, so widely hated just for who they happen to be ;_; ;_;

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

At least it's not ukeleles.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 May 2013 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

Lex, out of interest, why do you hate them? I've only ever seen you mention Ezra's voice, which is fair enough, but is that it?

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

lex sometimes forgets whether he's in his twitter echo chamber or the ILM echo chamber

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

TBH if I didn't like Vampire Weekend's music I would probably get immense enjoyment out of vocally hating them, they've just got one of those aesthetics.

Matt DC, Monday, 13 May 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

love mike powell but this review is a small eternity with a lot of smh moments

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

What's hatable about their aesthetics?

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

the VW songs i've heard (ie selected singles, dunno which ones were from which albums though) have pretty much all been really polite and fussy but also really insipid and dull - like you know how jon brion's productions can be eye-rollingly fastidious but at least he also has a knack for the rococo? VW remind me of that but in, like, beige. it seems boringly nostalgic in a way i can't put my finger on/haven't thought much about, like it should be the soundtrack in some twee artisanal café. oh and their lyrics are just excruciating, non-stop cringe whenever i've paid attention to them

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

love mike powell but this review is a small eternity with a lot of smh moments

It doesn't hang well together at the end but he does a much better job of describing the shift in musical inspiration than Dombal does.

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

totally agreed

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

VW write songs whose characters are how the audience wants to see itself. I guess it's self-loathing.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

haven't read anything by dombal in an age but he's responsible for some really fucking dreadful stuff in the past

i feel like everything powell writes should be hashtagged #deep or #life or #wistful or some shit, he has a nice vocabulary but it's so precious. i guess that is apt for this band

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Lex, I love you, boo, but please don't use the "x sounds like it should be played in y" line.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

The thing that gets me past the politeness barrier of a lot of VW material (specifically Contra since I know that album better) is how intricately arranged it is.

Sometimes it does grate massively, like on "I Think Ur A Contra", but OTOH you get great things like "Run" and "Horchata"

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

What's hatable about their aesthetics?

That it singularly unappeals?

I don't know, I've been venting on this a bit on Twitter myself. They are clearly an accomplished set of musicians, I have no doubt of their skills, etc. etc per Dan's comment just now. AND YET.

Understanding as I am to Lex's depiction in a narcissism-of-small-differences way (both in terms of his approach and the fact that I eat at plenty of said cafes, so it goes both ways), I think the project as outlined in Mike Powell's review inadvertantly illustrates my general problem in a concise fashion -- their initial approach was at best pleasant to me but not deathless, and after initial spins I shrugged at both earlier albums. Now shifting to a 'back to the American heartland' approach is even LESS designed to interest me, which admittedly shouldn't surprise anyone who knows me, and praising a band for sounding more varied than the National or the Arcade Fucking Fire is real 'in the kingdom of the blind' stuff. Also I was asked if I was paying attention to the lyrics, which is always the last thing on my 'to notice' list. So in the end it's like, "Great, good on you, have fun...over there, away from me, thanks." Glad you're all happy if you are but wow is it not interesting to me, not at all.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 May 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

They're a bit like the Flaming Lips or Belle and Sebastian or something in that their aesthetic seems fine or actively enjoyable if you're on board with the music and if you aren't it's a real "god help us if there's a war" kind of reaction.

Matt DC, Monday, 13 May 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

Hahah nicely said, that.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 May 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

haha OTM

I have no idea why they clicked for me because bands like this usually trigger kneejerk revulsion in me but I just dig these dudes.

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

idk why people go on about the characters in VW songs as though they're particularly well drawn rather than a bunch of cultural reference points clumsily thrown at the song in the hope a couple will stick

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 13 May 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link


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