Either neither or down.
Certainly not up.
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― Andy K, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
way too much of the stuff i hated about "love king" here -- aimless half-sung ballads, lower-register mumblecore -- and too little of the bright, hooky stuff that makes him good.
It's true that there's not a lot of the bright, hooky stuff, but I think the storyline here is that he's getting better at the other sounds. He's trying a lot of new things on this record, and a lot of them work really well. I like that he's trying to advance his sound instead of just relive past glories.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
the song with kelly sounded good on the tonight show last night. or at least she sounded good.
― yeeznuts (some dude), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
Who is McKinney?
Not... CYNTHIA McKinney?!? Lol
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
kevin's being a bit fatalistic
there's some stuff on here that's not very good but "IV play"/"equestrian"/"where have you been"/"too early"/"michael" stand up with mostly anything off his three other albums
i need to listen more to everything else after michael tho
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
mckinney is los da mystro, one of dream's longtime co-producers
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
"mostly everything!" who are you?!
lol
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
also again it really sucks that the original beyonce track got cut from this, it would be like pulling "fancy" off love vs money or something
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:20 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
those songs are great and could be dropped into any of the other three albums and no one would bat an eye
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:22 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark
I really wish I had remained ignorant about this
― Number None, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
now that we're talking about LOS tho i guess this sort of fits into what you guys were discussing on the goon thread (i think) a while ago - the decline of the performer-producer relationship and the increased reliance on fad producers and guests. obviously terius has always had a hand in his own productions but his gradual drifting away from tricky and los does coincide with an appreciable drop in quality
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah definitely. gradually hearing the difference between tricky and los and how they each played off the songwriting is a huge part of the pleasure of those albums for me. he's a lot mushier and less detailed a producer.
― goole, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
hmm can someone let the thread know when this leaks in decent quality? i'm not listening to a vevo stream of terius of all people, i may be sceptical but i at least want to give him a chance to shine
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
like, i don't know how you can be a dream stan not just totally adore "michael" or "IV play" or "equestrian"
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 May 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
the little outro on michael is so classic terius -- "dirty diana, hop up in this phantom..."
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 May 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
Holding out for a decent rip over here. Don't want to ruin the first impression.
― longneck, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
longneck and i as one on terius at last
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
longneck will love this
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
the vevos sound fine btw
Yeah it's not too bad tbf but more power to you holding out.
Equestrian was really lame to me.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
"turnt" is great and also puts in relief the failures of "high art" and "pussy"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
glad that pussy got put in relief
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
really enjoying this still
i'd probably find 1977 extremely leaden if i listened to it after this
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, mercifully this positions 1977 as an outlier, not the beginning of an irreversible slide
― Evan R, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
man i'm all "the horns in 'loving you' are incredible" and then it immediately shifts into this kinda dull glitchy section :\
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
RIP the liveblogging from 2009
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
too early is epic as hell if i dont play this every summer night i just dont know
see me silhouette the sunset w/ my top downtop back, see me ridinmillion dollar benz rims glidintop down, gold watch100 stacks spent on my glock (?)
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:46 (eleven years ago) link
holy love is really nice
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:42 (eleven years ago) link
heh i thought that was the worst song on the album
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:45 (eleven years ago) link
My stream of this expired over the weekend, and I can't wait to hear it again. Probably going to buy the deluxe edition on Tuesday; I think it will be the first time I've bought a deluxe edition of an album since Love King
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:53 (eleven years ago) link
That's like the scourge of crit-Dom now, the expiring stream
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
if only his label would put a stream of the album up
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
surely this is not the kells we know!
― MIGUEL 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE (The Reverend), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 04:29 (eleven years ago) link
Stream is up on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpAOYL4T_OE&list=PLG9zGdKjNW2-Ubd0L4XhzLWWClKIFYaHT
― tarping, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 12:15 (eleven years ago) link
this is... quite good.... actually. would happily go so far (so very, very far) as to rate it above love king i think
trashy but persuasively consistent about it. feels more like just an honest skeezy dude dealwithit.gif and not so much the repetitious and crassly lumpen barrel-scrapings of a former poet
i mean like "maybe put my dick on it / over the weekend" has gotta be some sort of genius right
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
last few trax are pretty weaksauce though
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
"self-conscious" is pretty dope i think, as far as the final few tracks go
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
yeah more so as a tranche than individually i guess
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
i guess we're just looking at opposite sides of the same coin - to me it seems he's got nothing left to say, which is fine when he falls back to those exercises in terius-dom that made me like him originally ("iv play", "slow it down") but when he rehashes his most amelodic, aimless material from LK i just can't deal with it.
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
on one listen my reaction is pretty much "pleasant and mild surprise that it's not as bad as i thought it would be (except when it is)" - felt like every so often there were flashes of new ideas but rarely followed through, the skeeziness enables terius not to fall on his face but there weren't very many real highs? i mean no matter what you think of love king it has "sex intelligent" and "yamaha"
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
"michael" is nice but there's a palpable lack of vitality there, like compare it to "take u home to my mama" for instance
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
still can't believe rtc turns his nose up at "slow it down"
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
i think "too early" was the stand-out on first listen for me, "turnt" was fun in a generic way (as is "high art", vaguely)
"pussy" and "equestrian" were terrrrible, "michael" drifted past rather, "loving you/crazy" had a few nice sounds but compared to all his big epics previously it's just inadequate
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
yeah "loving you/crazy" is just a complete stinkbomb, i take back everything i said about "abyss"
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
jay on "high art" is just so sad, someone put him in a home already
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
"Michael" can be epic or blah depending on my mood
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
"High art" sucked
I'm cherry picking on iTunes once this drops
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
lol how many moods have you had since it emerged yesterday
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
Haha
I've listened to it a bunch lex, and every time it felt different
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link