Oh, you've got green eyes Oh, you've got blue eyes Oh, you've got Poll eyes: NEW ORDER Artist poll #37 (voting ends May 26 Midnight Pacific)

I always thought Brotherhood was seen as the weakest of their 80's albums, PCL has always had a big following I thought?

I'm not as fond of Brotherhood as I am some of their other albums... but hang on, it has 'Bizarre Love Triangle' on it! And this gorgeous slab of beauty which of course I'm not suggesting anyone vote for*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxgtkhPMT2Q

*(this may be a fib)

Was it decided whether "Substance" counts as an album for the albums voting?

― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:58

I voted for it.

Yes, I'm still getting my ballot in order, but that song ('All Day Long') was an automatic inclusion.

I really can't hear the usual charm in a lot of the Brotherhood tracks. It leaves me a little cold.

*not All Day Long or BLT.

Technique was always pretty much adored since day one iirc. NME had a rave, MM had that infamous Chris Roberts review
(http://internettr✧✧✧.com/users/aldgate_e✧✧✧@utopi✧✧✧.d✧/techn.html) even Smash Hits gave it 9/10.

it went to number 1 in the UK, also it had an amazing TV advert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjpCr8wh6zE

Substance is not an album. Singles is not an album. The Best of is not an album. 81/82 EP is the best single disc they've every released but it's not an album.

I love the sound of Brotherhood, what Andrew Harrison in a '93 Select reassessment called "the bass of Hook, hungover" over something.

Brotherhood is a good album but Low-Life and Technique are so perfect, it just doesn't compare. Along with Bizarre Love Triangle and All Day Long, Paradise is my other favourite on there. I do have a soft spot for Every Second Counts, more for the comedy value though.

I obviously mean Every Little Counts.

Substance is the first New Order album I fell in love with. That is why I voted for it.

Notable comps have always counted on these polls. If enough people vote for it, it counts.

Brotherhood really does work best on vinyl. The sides are sequenced well and the CDs all sound extra harsh to me. I've grown to love Brotherhood over the years but it still only placed 4th on my list.

I voted for ten albums Substance and then the eight studio albums plus Lost Sirens (spoiler alert that was not at the higher end of my list) I just figured Bee could decide what was allowed to be included.

My New Order ballot will probably look like my Fall ballot: Little to nothing released after 1990. They just lost me after Technique. I tried to listen to Get Ready while working on my ballot and nothing is really sticking. Are there any standout tracks on the last three or so albums?

Turn, Waiting for the Sirens Call, Primitive Notion, Vicious Streak, Someone Like You, Morning Night and Day, Here To Stay

Yes! "Crystal," "Run Wild," "Morning Night and Day," "Waiting For the Siren's Call," "Krafty," "Someone Like You."

It's not on an album but "Here to Stay" is gorgeous.

These guys have covered the last two albums, maybe I'd add Hey Now What You Doing. I love Run Wild, Vicious Streak and Waiting For The Siren's Call. Republic has Regret, World, Ruined in a Day, Everyone Everywhere and Special.

I liked Regret and it will likely make the ballot. I'll need to check out the other ones though. I might have heard them before but didn't want to wade through a lot of dross to get to the good stuff.

xp yeah Here To Stay is their only decent song post-Republic aside from Crystal IMO.

was /Technique/ always loved?

That says more about my tastes when I was 16 than Technique however -- which is sort of indisputably my favorite New Order record now.

I simply did not get New Order then.

While I had heard Substance before, Technique was the first NO album I owned (after watching the video for Fine Time on 120 Minutes several times and was finally won over) and I was a huge Joy Division fan at the time!

new order have so many great tunes but age of consent isn't one of them. that song goes absolutely nowhere.

Wow, I feel sorry for you. That song takes me everywhere... A perfect blend of all of the elements that makes New Order a great band. Top 5 for sure.

another pointless exercise in programming

Programming takes actual talent - you don't just press a button and a machine spits out a song. Considering Stephen Morris wanted to sound like a drum machine, I'm not sure what it is exactly you get out of a band like New Order. Rockist nonsense.

oh dammit, I somehow managed to leave "Lonesome Tonight" off of my ballot

This should automatically invalidate anyone's ballot.

And fwiw: I don't, and never have, seen Joy Division and New Order as two different things. I think if you ignore the differences in singer/lyricist and play the Joy Division catalogue in order, followed by the New Order catalogue, there is a definite natural progression there.

OTM.

I thought Technique was their weakest album until I heard Republic. It's still not my favourite, but I like it more now. I really love "Love Less" and "All The Way" so some of the nasty talk above is not cool.

"Here To Stay" makes me think of how great New Order could be again with a production team with the group's best interest at heart. More work with the Chemical Brothers would be nice - or James Murphy.

Face Up must be a celebrated favorite, right? The lyrics are pretty lame but the music/melody are tops.

Woo!

Yep. Especially the intor.

Love Face Up as well and Age of Consent should be way up there.

All of the talk about All The Way has me optimistic for that one as well.

Was it decided whether "Substance" counts as an album for the albums voting?

yes i'm including. however people vote i will include. i even have a BBC Concert in there.

btw, if you messed up on your ballot (looking at you DJP) you can resubmit your ballot.

also if you looked into say video later and want to add to your ballot i can do that as well.

videos

I am watching the collected videos DVD and forgot how amazing they are!

The video for "World (The Price of Love)" makes me like the song 1000x more and imagine a CSI: New Order that never was.

"Ruined in a day" the video is one of those "Oh, I wasn't listening to the song really" videos.

Not enough love here for the amazing guitar and synth orchestrations of "In a Lonely Place."

btw, if you messed up on your ballot (looking at you DJP) you can resubmit your ballot.

you rule

seeing as it hasn't been mentioned so far, I just wanted to remind everyone that this is clearly the greatest thing they ever pulled off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcjolqpKR4g

:)

Oh god yeah, I've always been fond of that video!

up to 17, this is so very cool.

Yeah that Perfect Kiss video is one of the greatest things ever. Love watching how awkward they all look making this incredible music.

Ballot sent.

Very happy with my votes.

Further listening has cemented my belief that Republic is far better than Technique, although Fine Time is as great as ever.

Now THAT is funny.

You don't like Fine Time?

I only really like the singles on Republic

OH, OUR LOVE IS LIKE THE FLOWERS
THE RAIN, THE SEA AND THE HOURS!

*shakes arse*

there should be a "which is your favorite NO song to dance to" poll option (or top 3, if we're being serious)

I have a friend in his early 50s who for a few decades now has had a rule that he will not start dancing until someone plays "Blue Monday."