West Coast vs. West Coast

just the overall dregs of society.

Grateful Dead fans iirc

i saw one of the BBs 'reunion' concerts last year and i was kinda stunned by how good it was. probably as much due to the backup band as anything, but nearly all the songs sounded great.

All I heard was the single, and--I'm about to get strident--I thought it was dreadful. Maybe there's other stuff I'd like, I don't know. Was Brian involved?

(FBB, yes--the International Submarine Band, too?)

There are precious few situations where I'm not going to vote for whatever side the Byrds are on, so LA in a walk for me.

Was Brian involved?

the single was fucking horrible. but yes Brian was involved in the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaDiwoACJ2Q

not great (Al's voice kinda bugs) but song is more than I would have expected them being capable of

Thanks--that's really nice, yeah (especially with the old footage). No idea how they could release that other song instead.

Oh, I love it. I think it's classic Beach Boys bubblegum.

Strange, but one of the first things that really drew me to the Beach Boys was "All Summer Long" over the end credits of American Graffiti when I was 12 or 13. They had an identity for me before that--a few songs I knew from the radio, a best-of in my parents' record collection--but American Graffiti, and then Endless Summer right after, established a much stronger connection. Lucas's use of the song was so perfect--I'm too lazy to check, but I think the opening notes are precisely timed to the visuals.

I say strange because, in the context of American Graffiti, the Beach Boys represent the scary future, or at least the confusing present--it's surf music that Milner, the aging, die-hard rocker, doesn't really understand and dismisses contemptuously.

l, the Beach Boys are awful,

otm

yeah, they're no country joe & the fish

Davie Allan and the Arrows otoh are fuckin awesome!

Wondering if we shouldn't be polling this important question instead:

LA: Black Flag, Germs, X, The Weirdos, The Go-Gos, The Screamers, etc.
SF: Dead Kennedys, Flipper, The Avengers, Crime, The Nuns, The Units, etc.

Absolutely love this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaRppv4fgjo

LA: Black Flag, Germs, X, The Weirdos, The Go-Gos, The Screamers, etc.
SF: Dead Kennedys, Flipper, The Avengers, Crime, The Nuns, The Units, etc.

LA no contest even saddled with the heavy weight of Greg Ginn's comedy stylings

thread is turning into a greatest hits of aeros hates lol but yeah LA no contest in the punk division

LA RULES deal with it

LA has The Monkees. SF has the Grateful Dead. This is no fucking contest.

also aero how the hell can you open up on the Beach Boys and then turn around and straight-facedly say "there's been some boring trolling on this thread"???? respect

Thats not trolling; thats doing battle w dreaded foe iatee

Generic Flipper would be my favourite album from the punk group, and the Avengers' "The Amerikan in Me" probably my favourite song. I'd still vote L.A. for the combined X/Germs/Black Flag output, plus the Dead Kennedys would be a huge minus.

Generic and Fresh Fruit are two of my favorite albums of the 80s, plus the Avengers. Also: wasnt Chrome kind of in that scene? SF punk all the way...

But wait Gun Club is LA arent they? Maybe its not so clear cut :/

huh I always thought all these bands were from the same place ¯\(°_o)/¯

I only know country joe from the st to the movie of quiet days in clichy which I watched a lot as a teenager ahem

Thats not trolling; thats doing battle w dreaded foe iatee

iatee and I are fellow Steely Dan heads, I don't think our blood feud carries over to ILM for the most part

OC punk even beats SF

Chrome is the only good band from San Francisco, but they're progressive rock.

El Chicano was way better than Santana

yeah our blood feud is mostly politics/worldview but it is kinda appropriate that aero loathes my favorite band

don't forget Flesheaters/Horsemen/Chris D.!!!

does Pedro count as L.A.?

OC punk even beats SF

I think this is a makeable case

yeah, I was kind of serious with that. DI, Adolescents, I guess TSOL was from Long Beach so maybe they don't count as OC.

does Pedro count as L.A.?

it's called the Port of Los Angeles for a reason

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nardcore
"Early bands in the Nardcore scene included Agression, Dr. Know, False Confession, Ill Repute, Habeas Corpus, RKL (Rich Kids on LSD) and Scared Straight."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ9GyqL8eOs

The Residents & Negativland vs. the LA Free Music Society?

My 10 favorite songs from each side, no duplications allowed:

L.A.: "She Don't Care About Time" (Byrds), "Rock and Roll Woman" (Buffalo Springfield), "Wouldn't It Be Nice" (Beach Boys), "Egyptian Gardens" (Kaleidoscope), "You Showed Me" (Turtles), "Trouble Every Day" (Mothers of Invention), "Got a Feelin'" (Mamas & Papas), "Take a Giant Step" (Monkees), "Christine's Tune" (Flying Burrito Brothers), "Going Up the Country" (Canned Heat).

San Francisco: "Mexico" (Jefferson Airplane), "Hot Fun in the Summertime" (Sly & the Family Stone), "Ramble Tamble" (CCR), "Alabama Bound" (Charlatans), "Cold Rain and Snow" (Grateful Dead), "Omaha" (Moby Grape), "When It Comes to Your Love" (Beau Brummels), "Janis" (Country Joe & the Fish), "Down on Me" (Big Brother & Holding Company), "Dino's Song" (Quicksilver Messenger Service).

If I started rating those songs out of 10, "Dino's Song" is the only one I'd give less than a 9, and it'd be close. There'd be many 10s, more on the San Francisco side. I'm much more of a song than album guy, so if I put discographies aside--and I realize that's inconceivable for most people--and base the comparison on my very favourite songs only, San Francisco would just barely win.

Like NickB posted, not voting for the Byrds in any context feels wrong to me. But San Francisco it is.

Mexico and Ramble Tamble are both 1970. LA wins again.

Good point--I did say '65-69. I could change those to "It's No Secret"/"Come Up the Years"/"Today"/"We Could Be Together" or "Bad Moon Rising"/"Fortunate Son" (most of my favourite Creedence stuff is '70/'71) and it would barely move the needle, though.

(You're trying to give me a hard time again, right?)

too late. disqualified!
xp

the court rules in favor of Los Angeles

http://monkees.coolcherrycream.com/include/w.php?i=images/season-1/14-dance-monkee-dance/0509-mike-davy.jpg

Sorry, I know those two guys, and they're from El Cerrito.

nah, you're thinking of that other bubblegum act

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sonned francisco

appalling result.

actually, it's not. it's just different from how i voted. the beach boys were a pretty good band i guess.