Thicke: Slicke or Dicke?

Shiny happy thicke people

does the unrated version still feature the remy martin bottle?

the women are still on that creepy dead-eyed cat marnell shit

disagree - i think they're affecting a form of model cool that makes them mostly indifferent or ambivalent towards the men, which has the effect of undermining their don juan pretentions and making them ridiculous.

Fawning over men in whatever state of undress is not ambivalence.

yeah i guess there is more fawning and less cool indifference than i remembered. still think "creepy, dead-eyed" is inaccurate tho.

Just watched the video (and just heard this jam of the summer) for the first time. It works because they're all clearly having fun. Much more deadpan than dead-eyed. Everyone in that video has charm.

Prince must be slapping his forehead, the way he prolly did with "Poison" before writing "Gett Off."

omg i didn't know he co-wrote "give it to you". amazing.

j0rdan otm on the difference between the original and unrated videos

what makes the original charming is that the set-up is kind of like behind-the-scenes on a fashion shoot, the off-camera goofing around, having fun with the props etc - there's an awareness of how ridiculous and yes sexist it all is, but there's also chemistry between the models and the dudes - and the models are def doing more than either affecting dead-eyedness or fawning, though there's a bit of both, there's interaction and goofy little facial expressions etc. the unrated version loses a lot of that. and yeah the power imbalance that the nudity introduces makes it...not great. (couldn't u even take your shirt off tip/robin? it actually makes the dudes look less idk manly/brave/whatever to not change anything for this ~special~ version of the video)

Unrated version has better framing. Original has lots of shots that feel cropped.

the "orig" is the nude version; thicke claims he was the one to say uhh dudes we should probably have a clean version too, for whatever that is worth

Ever the gentleman

and yeah the power imbalance that the nudity introduces makes it...not great

yeah see when guys suggest toplessness introduces a power imbalance to a terry richardson style photo shoot involving famous men in tuxes and anonymous women in hot pants, i really can't help but tease

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/1567020/robin-thicke-reveals-blurred-lines-album-release-date-track-list

1. "Blurred Lines" feat. T.I. and Pharrell
2. "Take It Easy On Me"
3. "Ooo La La "
4. "Ain't No Hat 4 That"
5. "Get In My Way"
6. "Give It 2 U" feat. Kendrick Lamar
7. "Feel Good"
8. "Go Stupid 4 U"
9. "4 The Rest Of My Life"
10. "Top Of The World"
11. "The Good Life"

finally a short robin thicke record

i'm gonna guess that came together fairly quickly

Something Else is 12 tracks and is pretty great

ain't no hat 4 that, nooooo, no can do

yeah see when guys suggest toplessness introduces a power imbalance to a terry richardson style photo shoot involving famous men in tuxes and anonymous women in hot pants, i really can't help but tease

― da croupier, Friday, June 14, 2013 11:29 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah both versions are just terry richardson photo shoots, don't really know what all of you are on about tbh

if you appreciate something specifically for how it dances on the line between tacky and not, then yeah if a 2.0 version drops a month later that leaps over the line it's a buzzkill. not that hard to understand.

― some dude, Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

lol rtc

i wouldnt put it past him tbh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTqmiwHHktE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTqmiwHHktE

if you appreciate something specifically for how it dances on the line between tacky and not, then yeah if a 2.0 version drops a month later that leaps over the line it's a buzzkill. not that hard to understand.

― some dude, Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

― J0rdan S., Friday, June 14, 2013 8:14 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

again, you're both confused if you think anyone doesn't understand why the second was a bonerkill. mocking the self-flattering language you use to defend the boner you had before the bonerkill. can you really argue the blurred lines "dances on the line between tacky and not"? what exactly is that line, pg-13 objectification vs. r? or at that only when the shirts come off there's a power imbalance, or that it's just harmless frisky wtf joy turned dark at that point. you really have to be through the rap video looking glass to think your stance on what's a pig bridge too far isn't arbitrary. and again, i enjoy the video fine but I know it's some sexist shit and bemoaning that an unrated version made the sexism even more blatant is hilarious.

people are mocking the language, i mean

yeah j0rdan stop defending your boner for those naked girls

i'm just suck of him and lex seeing women as nothing but conquest material is that so wrong

i actually thought my needless inclusion of "rap" in front of "video" was going to be someone's chance to claim the high ground while ignoring the point

haha woah obv typo xpost

anyway i'm just lolling at guys claiming their swimsuit issue was turned tawdry by nipple that's all

thicke: sucke or ducke

finally watched the unrated vid (didn't realize vevo wouldn't make me log-in to anything!) and yeah i think i might have liked it more. still had dudes dancing around goofily (plus) still had hashtags (minus) more shots of a giant syringe, fewer of a remy martin bottle and if i'm going to see a bunch of half-naked girls dance around i'm not bothered by them being topless.

not seen or heard but gonna give thicke the unbenefit of the paltry doubt i have and dismiss him as a completely shit fucker whom i have neither the time nor the inclination for, whether he is an important cultural phenomenon or not

yeah i'm gonna rep for unrated one also. both vids are crass and sexist, unrated one manages to be hotter and more ridiculous (at some point you're just like 'good lord throw a shirt on already') plus when emily ratajkowski starts doing that goofy as hell dance w/ her titties out, man that is some cognitive dissonance. video's better than it should be on paper - some schmucks goof around w/ some half naked models, it's a coy 'cherry pie' video really and who needs that, it really does have all the style of a radio shack commercial minus the pathos of a ving rhames or a howie long.

in either version, the best thing about the video is t.i.'s dancing and the worst thing is pharrell's hat

n.b. Pharrell singing "You the hottest bitch in this place" to the goat.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/17/blurred-lines-robin-thicke-s-summer-anthem-is-kind-of-rapey.html

I don't get this. It's a song where a guy is trying to seduce a girl who already has a boyfriend or husband to cheat with him and have wild sex. There are a million songs like this. I don't see any "rapey" lyrics in it.

Like, the girl in the song is apparently grabbing him. There's a difference between saying "I know you want it" (i.e. "c'mon") in that context and, like, shouting "HEY, I KNOW YOU WANT IT!" at a random girl across the street.

The blogosphere requires perpetual outrage

Yeah, once a song becomes that popular, there just has to be clueless thinkpieces about it. When the Gotye song hit #1 there was the dumbest Jezebel post about hey the guy in this song probably wasn't a good boyfriend, he sounds like a creep!

I like Maura's nbd appearance in that article. Once you start singling out pop songs in which the guy sounds like a bit of a creep where do you stop? Lucky for Sting that Every Breath You Take predated Jezebel.

Frannie Kelley too! She's cool, I wish she posted here.

i guess it's a valid topic of discussion but i don't know the song is very obviously about thicke trying to coax a woman out of her shell, not trying to get her blackout drunk so he can fuck her

i guess it's a valid topic of discussion but i don't know the commercial is very obviously about psy trying to coax a pistachio out of its shell

I hate constructions like "kinda (bad thing)y" and "quasi-(bad thing)" that allow writers to demand a defense without outright claiming the offense.

I also don't think it does the end-rape-culture cause much of a service to casually throw around that kind of construction.

Yeah, "kinda rapey" is offensive all round

article itself is appreciated though, at least for showing how much sympathy (or the lack of it) affects ones perception of sexism/sexual aggressiveness.

a lot of the time in cases like this there's a real failure to understand that the visual aspect of pop music may bely the actual substance of the song - especially with mainstream/pop artists, i find their public image (a vague, nebulous thing that lends itself to kinda-constructions) is a lot more conservative/careful/rigid than the actual words they sing

in this case it's annoying b/c there's a valid discussion about misogyny to be had but calling the song "kinda rapey" is not it