i'm gonna guess that came together fairly quickly
― J0rdan S., Friday, 14 June 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
Something Else is 12 tracks and is pretty great
― some dude, Friday, 14 June 2013 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
ain't no hat 4 that, nooooo, no can do
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 June 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
yeah see when guys suggest toplessness introduces a power imbalance to a terry richardson style photo shoot involving famous men in tuxes and anonymous women in hot pants, i really can't help but tease
― da croupier, Friday, June 14, 2013 11:29 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah both versions are just terry richardson photo shoots, don't really know what all of you are on about tbh
― 乒乓, Friday, 14 June 2013 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
if you appreciate something specifically for how it dances on the line between tacky and not, then yeah if a 2.0 version drops a month later that leaps over the line it's a buzzkill. not that hard to understand.
― some dude, Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― J0rdan S., Friday, 14 June 2013 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
lol rtc
― Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 14 June 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
i wouldnt put it past him tbh
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 June 2013 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTqmiwHHktE
― Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 14 June 2013 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTqmiwHHktE
― J0rdan S., Friday, June 14, 2013 8:14 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
again, you're both confused if you think anyone doesn't understand why the second was a bonerkill. mocking the self-flattering language you use to defend the boner you had before the bonerkill. can you really argue the blurred lines "dances on the line between tacky and not"? what exactly is that line, pg-13 objectification vs. r? or at that only when the shirts come off there's a power imbalance, or that it's just harmless frisky wtf joy turned dark at that point. you really have to be through the rap video looking glass to think your stance on what's a pig bridge too far isn't arbitrary. and again, i enjoy the video fine but I know it's some sexist shit and bemoaning that an unrated version made the sexism even more blatant is hilarious.
― da croupier, Friday, 14 June 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
people are mocking the language, i mean
― da croupier, Friday, 14 June 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah j0rdan stop defending your boner for those naked girls
― some dude, Friday, 14 June 2013 23:58 (eleven years ago) link
i'm just suck of him and lex seeing women as nothing but conquest material is that so wrong
― da croupier, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
i actually thought my needless inclusion of "rap" in front of "video" was going to be someone's chance to claim the high ground while ignoring the point
― da croupier, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
haha woah obv typo xpost
― da croupier, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
anyway i'm just lolling at guys claiming their swimsuit issue was turned tawdry by nipple that's all
thicke: sucke or ducke
― some dude, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
finally watched the unrated vid (didn't realize vevo wouldn't make me log-in to anything!) and yeah i think i might have liked it more. still had dudes dancing around goofily (plus) still had hashtags (minus) more shots of a giant syringe, fewer of a remy martin bottle and if i'm going to see a bunch of half-naked girls dance around i'm not bothered by them being topless.
― da croupier, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
not seen or heard but gonna give thicke the unbenefit of the paltry doubt i have and dismiss him as a completely shit fucker whom i have neither the time nor the inclination for, whether he is an important cultural phenomenon or not
― ghosts of cuddlestein butthurt circlejerk zinged fuckboy (imago), Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm gonna rep for unrated one also. both vids are crass and sexist, unrated one manages to be hotter and more ridiculous (at some point you're just like 'good lord throw a shirt on already') plus when emily ratajkowski starts doing that goofy as hell dance w/ her titties out, man that is some cognitive dissonance. video's better than it should be on paper - some schmucks goof around w/ some half naked models, it's a coy 'cherry pie' video really and who needs that, it really does have all the style of a radio shack commercial minus the pathos of a ving rhames or a howie long.
― balls, Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
in either version, the best thing about the video is t.i.'s dancing and the worst thing is pharrell's hat
― The Reverend, Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:51 (eleven years ago) link
n.b. Pharrell singing "You the hottest bitch in this place" to the goat.
― lols lane (Eazy), Sunday, 16 June 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/17/blurred-lines-robin-thicke-s-summer-anthem-is-kind-of-rapey.html
I don't get this. It's a song where a guy is trying to seduce a girl who already has a boyfriend or husband to cheat with him and have wild sex. There are a million songs like this. I don't see any "rapey" lyrics in it.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 03:47 (eleven years ago) link
Like, the girl in the song is apparently grabbing him. There's a difference between saying "I know you want it" (i.e. "c'mon") in that context and, like, shouting "HEY, I KNOW YOU WANT IT!" at a random girl across the street.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 03:50 (eleven years ago) link
The blogosphere requires perpetual outrage
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 11:42 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, once a song becomes that popular, there just has to be clueless thinkpieces about it. When the Gotye song hit #1 there was the dumbest Jezebel post about hey the guy in this song probably wasn't a good boyfriend, he sounds like a creep!
― ramona & yeezus (some dude), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 11:50 (eleven years ago) link
I like Maura's nbd appearance in that article. Once you start singling out pop songs in which the guy sounds like a bit of a creep where do you stop? Lucky for Sting that Every Breath You Take predated Jezebel.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
Frannie Kelley too! She's cool, I wish she posted here.
― ramona & yeezus (some dude), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 12:47 (eleven years ago) link
i guess it's a valid topic of discussion but i don't know the song is very obviously about thicke trying to coax a woman out of her shell, not trying to get her blackout drunk so he can fuck her
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 June 2013 12:58 (eleven years ago) link
i guess it's a valid topic of discussion but i don't know the commercial is very obviously about psy trying to coax a pistachio out of its shell
― PappaWheelie on the zeitgeist (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
I hate constructions like "kinda (bad thing)y" and "quasi-(bad thing)" that allow writers to demand a defense without outright claiming the offense.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
I also don't think it does the end-rape-culture cause much of a service to casually throw around that kind of construction.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, "kinda rapey" is offensive all round
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
article itself is appreciated though, at least for showing how much sympathy (or the lack of it) affects ones perception of sexism/sexual aggressiveness.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
a lot of the time in cases like this there's a real failure to understand that the visual aspect of pop music may bely the actual substance of the song - especially with mainstream/pop artists, i find their public image (a vague, nebulous thing that lends itself to kinda-constructions) is a lot more conservative/careful/rigid than the actual words they sing
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
in this case it's annoying b/c there's a valid discussion about misogyny to be had but calling the song "kinda rapey" is not it
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
Also, the default mode of writing nowadays is flippant. The worst sin is treating serious stuff seriously.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
totally. i can't really do humorous writing anyway but i especially can't do it about stuff i know a lot about, or love a great deal. when i can write flippantly it's because i don't really care about my subject
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
I know there's a whole thread devoted to this tone of voice but I cannot wait for bloggers to stop hiding behind flippant-feeble "erm"s and "kinda"s.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, uh that skinhead band is a WEE BIT TOO holocausty for my tastes.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
Haha
― ramona & yeezus (some dude), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
I cannot wait for things that are never going to happen also.
― Studied keyboard mash (tsrobodo), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
"Lucky for Sting that Every Breath You Take predated Jezebel."
actual lol
― maura, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
i mean i guess the whole 'any song where a man shows a sexual interest in a woman is now rapey' ideal espoused by some feminist blogs is very 'caricature of feminists in pcu' shit
and i mean i STILL listen to a lot of hard rock. so
― maura, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
tbf "i know you want it" is a step beyond the expression of sexual interest. A less sympathetic son of a tv star would get oodles of shit for a song that declares you "the hottest bitch in this place," reaffirms all that stands between you is your "good girl" status, and then offers drugs in the last verse.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
also if the well-dressed men surrounded by topless women weren't doing vaudeville routines
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
kind of wish this feminist internet reaction existed when "give it to you" came out
one of the most uncomfortable songs to karaoke
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
someone put robin's vocal over puddle of mudd - "blurry lines" to show how much context matters
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
or just get chad kroeger to cover it
But "I know you want it" is bracketed by him talking about how she's grabbing him, and the earlier "you're an animal" lines seem to indicate that it's not a metaphor...
― maura, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link