this is getting sorta overrated if folks seriously think its better than the ugk. very 2003 sounding and it never really transcends. Its just very very consistent and strong. victory for the 'art of the album' i guess, but no where near as ambitious or accomplished as the UGK
― deej, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I still haven't heard this, but deej where you characterize the UGK as "ambitious or accomplished" I might say "overlong and samey." And I like it!
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 25 November 2007 06:08 (sixteen years ago) link
what the fuck does 'overlong' mean
― deej, Sunday, 25 November 2007 09:22 (sixteen years ago) link
unless you give a shit about 'art of the album' where 'art of the album' = 40 minutes of consistency = zzz
100 minutes of consistency = ???
― The Reverend, Sunday, 25 November 2007 09:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I heard both the UGK and the Freeway albums for the first time last week - both are fantastic. I'm not sure which i like more though.
― Tim F, Sunday, 25 November 2007 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link
i give a shit about art of the album. i dont really get whats ambitious or accomplished about the UGK album, except the length of it. and the production on the ugk album isnt as consistent as it is on the freeway album. i dunno if its my speakers but some of the beats on the ugk album seem a bit thin sounding like a lot of modern production, not as thick as older ugk beats.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 25 November 2007 09:40 (sixteen years ago) link
-- deej, Sunday, 25 November 2007 09:22 (9 hours ago) Link
it's a word people use to describe every double album every, regardless of quality or consistency.
― Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, 25 November 2007 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link
they're usually right though.
― s1ocki, Sunday, 25 November 2007 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link
in this case, no
― deej, Sunday, 25 November 2007 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link
im not saying there aren't a couple songs on the UGK i don't really listen to but it still has twice as many songs i do than the freeway does.
― deej, Sunday, 25 November 2007 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link
new beanie sigel leaked too
― deej, Sunday, 25 November 2007 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link
the internet really likes this album it seems...
― The Brainwasher, Sunday, 25 November 2007 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link
has ghost leaked yet?
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link
-- s1ocki, Sunday, November 25, 2007 1:40 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link
i didn't say they weren't. i just think it's funny when people call a double album overlong or bloated or whatever, like, duh.
― Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link
haha "this box set is soooooo long, took me days to listen to it"
― am0n, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
They really could have kept it down to twelve discs.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 25 November 2007 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link
the track with jay-z on this sounds about 8 years old! reminds me of hard knock life-era rocafella (are people are probably going to get all backinthedays misty-eyed for that era now?). this falters a bit in the middle or 3/4 of the way through - nothing bad or embarassing, just not as powerful as the first 4-5 songs, but still good. i think i like this more than graduation. this is the album freeway should have had for his debut.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 26 November 2007 09:59 (sixteen years ago) link
i've been fgeeling this even more than philadelphia freeway. man, the raps is just so HARD on everything. there isn't any time where free doesn't rap his fuckin ass on any track. man free just gives me those perfect moment tingles on this like nobody else does but nas and face and mega and 50.
FREEWAY GOT CONNECTS WITH THE BOSSES I GET A CALL FROM THE DEALER YOU CONNECT WITH THE AUCTION IM STILL PREPARED FOR YOUR SQUADRON I TEAR UP MY TARGET VEST COVER MY ORGANS CALICO WITH THE CARTRIDGE over crazy fuckin squealing u don't know beat "NO NO NO NO NO" and then a face verse?
― dylannn, Monday, 14 January 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link
he even comes hard on that glossy rick ross track
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link
i listen to that 9, 10 combo over and over again
free at last is FIERCE, second verse flow is just FIERCE. that's what i love about free. wish i could explain what i love so much about just everything in the way he raps. listen to that second verse, the one that starts, GATS HOLLOW THEM LOJACK EM AND FOLLOW THEM
like listening to some dudes, listening to other rappers that i love. some dude like face or fat pat with careless slowly spreading thick blades of voice on the beat. or nas with immaculate construction and raps that you can imagine written down and read and re-read, pencil scratches and shit crossed out in the flow. lots of people borrow that shit and they borrowed shit from other people but nobody could be FIERCE like free. even shit like pharaoh doubletime angry oldschool houston shit--not that free is really fast or anything but that's as close as comes to my head right now, some midwest or houston fierce fast shit-- has a little gloss to it just because you can feel a fanciness, a showiness. nobody could rap like free.
― dylannn, Monday, 14 January 2008 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link
I do think I like it a little better than the UGK
I changed my mind on that ... but this is still really good
― dmr, Monday, 14 January 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link
for the last day i've been tryin to figure out what this means: "i killed my own profession droppin pelicans off"
― dylannn, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link
as in he just straight killed the game droppin birds off? or he damaged the cocaine distribution industry by moving so much weight??? what
― dylannn, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah this is great
― deej, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link
http://pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/78848/200.jpg
― jaxon, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link
I WAS LIVIN' MY LIFE!
Still fabulous.
― Tim F, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
kind of wincing at my 'UGK are untouchable' zzz upthread but i still don't disagree with myself
― deej, Monday, 14 January 2008 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link
sololipsms
i don't disagree with yourself either
― Jordan, Monday, 14 January 2008 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link
THINGS JUST AIN'T THE SAME FOR GANGSTAS
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 28 March 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link
this album holds up pretty damn well.
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 28 March 2008 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link
this is so underrated...dope from beginning to end. only track i skip is the one with jay
― Preview of the Matrix 12, Friday, 28 March 2008 22:07 (sixteen years ago) link
ha im more tired of jay than i am busta
― deej, Friday, 28 March 2008 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I need to get back to this album
― The Reverend, Friday, 28 March 2008 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link
trying to decide whether to buy this on vinyl. i cant really imagine wanting to hear much of this 'out' except maybe the 50 cent track??
― deej, Friday, 28 March 2008 23:14 (sixteen years ago) link
roc-a-fella billionaires really deserved to be a club hit and never was, so buy it and at least spin that.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 28 March 2008 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link
nah none of it works "out"
it really works as "damn, I can't believe how awesome Freeway is and how little Def Jam cared about his second album"
― Preview of the Matrix 12, Friday, 28 March 2008 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link
roc-a-fella billionaires is actually a great party song-- no one knows the words but it's still awesome to yell out HEY, BIG SPENDER
― J0rdan S., Friday, 28 March 2008 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah the sample is cool but that's it
― Preview of the Matrix 12, Friday, 28 March 2008 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link
man, the raps is just so HARD on everything
― j., Sunday, 25 October 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link