Ooh Ooh Ooh, Complete CLASH POLL (that's a laugh) - ILX Artist Poll #41 (?) - Voting Ends July 9th at Midnight (EST)

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rock the casbah can go fuck itself tho

resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 29 June 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Should I Stay Or Should I Go? is all of these things xxp

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 29 June 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah this is definitely one where omitting the biggest hit doesn't feel at all contrarian.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 29 June 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

(that was an xp about Casbah, not SISOSIG)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 29 June 2013 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

Casbah has that baseline though

Gukbe, Saturday, 29 June 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

So maybe I'd vote for Mustapha Dance

Gukbe, Saturday, 29 June 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

There's not a damn thing wrong with Casbah. Overexposure's not the song's fault.

WilliamC, Saturday, 29 June 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

It has its own kind of genius, it's just not one of my 30 favorite Clash songs.

Funny thing about Casbah is that it was some people's first or only experience of the Clash. I have run into people who think of them as some kind of one-hit novelty act.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 29 June 2013 23:49 (eleven years ago) link

"they also did Should I Stay or Should I Go"

"Ooh, that was them?"

Gukbe, Sunday, 30 June 2013 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

I forgot to write up there but please include your ILX username in your ballots!

And now, to rep for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpKWH8nXjBI

Gukbe, Sunday, 30 June 2013 01:08 (eleven years ago) link

There's very little from this band I would not rep for.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 June 2013 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

But I will rep for "Know Your Rights."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 June 2013 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

And I will also for The Prisoner. Johnny Too Bad meets Johnny B. Goode in the Charing Cross Road.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLxM47cCTFc

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 30 June 2013 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

^^ yep good'un

resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 30 June 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link

And "Groovy Times"!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 June 2013 03:36 (eleven years ago) link

Since I've already turned in my ballot, I feel good about people mentioning tracks I've voted for.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 30 June 2013 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

"White Man in the Hammersmith Palais"/"The Prisoner" might be my favorite A-B sides of any single ever.

"Groovy Times" is good, too. Best part is when Joe yelps "Hey, groovy!"

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 30 June 2013 03:41 (eleven years ago) link

Don't get me wrong, they wrote some great songs, but some of their covers were even better. Police on My Back, Brand New Cadillac, Armigideon Time, Police and Thieves, I Fought the Law....

― Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:06 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyv16mZakVE

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 30 June 2013 03:44 (eleven years ago) link

live version but i love it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8XziO7L78I

Gukbe, Sunday, 30 June 2013 04:13 (eleven years ago) link

That Amsterdam 81 bootleg is a beast--surprisingly, it only entered circulation pretty recently. Sony has proper masters for it and considered it for release but decided on the tedious Shea Stadium thing instead, which still annoys me.

kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Sunday, 30 June 2013 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

ctrl+F "Train In Vain" no results found >:-(

More and more these days all I need to hear is "I'm So Bored" or "Straight To Hell."

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Sunday, 30 June 2013 11:29 (eleven years ago) link

pressure drop is the only clash cover I can think of that doesn't beat the original. but, hey, it's Toots and the Maytals ffs!

xxpost

making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 30 June 2013 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

surprisingly, it only entered circulation pretty recently. Sony has proper masters for it and considered it for release but decided on the tedious Shea Stadium thing instead, which still annoys me

a LOT of full shows in great quality started circulating after the From Here To Eternity live compilation was put together. if you want to conclude that a band member who was remastering that album, and all the records, at the time may have decided to release them into the wild since Sony didn't want to do a box set as well as the comp, I can't stop you

pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Sunday, 30 June 2013 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

"Time Is Tight" too? (xpost) The Clash's cover is very good, though. I had "The Prisoner" high on my ballot.

Overexposure's never the song's fault, WC, but I do think it's a fact of life, and "London Calling" and "Rock the Casbah" are the only Clash songs that ever get played on the radio. Anyway, I've always really disliked "Casbah," so the overplay there doesn't much matter with me.

clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2013 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

but decided on the tedious Shea Stadium thing instead

That and the '82 tracks on Eternity are unlistenable, entirely due to the ham-footed Terry Chimes.

Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 30 June 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

"London Calling" and "Rock the Casbah" are the only Clash songs that ever get played on the radio.

And "I Fought he Law" and "Should I Stay or Should I Go." And "Train In Vain."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 June 2013 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

Forgot about "Should I Stay"--of course. "I Fought the Law" never gets played here, in any format. "Train in Vain" very occasionally on the classic-rock station.

clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

I hear "Should I Stay" and "Casbah" fairly regularly on the "classic rock" station, and "London Calling" during the "alternative" station's "retro lunch."

Heard "Train In Vain" all the time on top 40 AM in 1980. Didn't know it was the Clash until five years later.

Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 30 June 2013 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

"Train In Vain" got a second life after Garbage sampled it for the basis of "Stupid Girl", which probably led to a lot of "turn it up!" fakeouts when listeners heard those opening beats.

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 30 June 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

got bollocked by my girlfriend for leaving Pressure Drop and The Prisoner off my ballot

Dr X O'Skeleton, Sunday, 30 June 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

The Terry Chimes' version of "Casbah" is wrong.

I don't blame him though

Mark G, Sunday, 30 June 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

pressure drop is the only clash cover I can think of that doesn't beat the original

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/shaking-my-head-picture_zps9f7939cc.gif

Listening to a lot of live tracks the last few days, reminds me that they always played everything so fast. If there was ever a band that needed a little less amphetamine, it was these guys.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 30 June 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

I'll give some love to "One More Time."

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 June 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

The Terry Chimes' version of "Casbah" is wrong.

I don't blame him though

― Mark G, Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They are definitely in the lineage of Who/Zep in that losing their drummer effectively killed their groove.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 30 June 2013 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

I hope Ellen Foley gets her due in the poll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opFyTAA0DiI

Also makes me think there should be a whole poll sometime of pop songs about the music biz.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 30 June 2013 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

There wasn't much wrong with Terry, otherwise, apart from 'not being Topper'..

If Mick had still been on board, they could have carried on being almost as great..

Mark G, Sunday, 30 June 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, emphasis on almost. I think their run ended in a good place. Speaking of which, I did vote for "This Is England" but I know its status as a Clash song is pretty suspect.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 30 June 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

They are definitely in the lineage of Who/Zep in that losing their drummer effectively killed their groove.

― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:41 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Definitely, but if they'd been able to get along with Mick, Pete Howard could've been their salvation. His playing on the US Festival show trounces anything they did with Chimes in the 80s (granted, not too difficult), but also nips at Topper's heels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2keV-mx14jc

Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 30 June 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

Strong drummer, but more a rock than funk guy. Sounds almost Grohl-ish.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 30 June 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

I'd still rep for "In the pouring rain" as a lost classic (you have to get the strummer soundtrack CD to get it) and something to show they could have saved it.

Mark G, Sunday, 30 June 2013 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

Speaking of which, I did vote for "This Is England" but I know its status as a Clash song is pretty suspect.

Nah, it's the only post-Mick song that even Joe counted as a Clash song.

pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Sunday, 30 June 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Even Mick said he liked it.

Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 30 June 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

wasn't gonna vote in this but this thread is bringing me in so why not. I like the Clash, good classic rock band, like Thin Lizzy or the James Gang (though worse than the former & better than the latter).

"London Calling" is horrible, though.

Euler, Monday, 1 July 2013 12:17 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, that's some Eddy level shit there. Kudos.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 July 2013 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

I've recycled this story a lot--I recycle all my stories a lot--so I may have posted it on another thread somewhere, but I don't think so. I saw the Clash in late '79 at a famous show in Toronto:

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t427/sayhey1/clash_zpsfe962572.jpg

It was the last rock-related show ever at the O'Keefe Centre, after about $5,000 worth of ripped-out seats. There'd been rock shows there going back to Led Zeppelin and Jefferson Airplane a decade earlier; from what I can tell, they started bringing bands back in the 2000s, after it had become the Hummingbird (now Sony) Centre. Anyway, I was there because my friend Peter had got me on to punk that summer (late to the party). I loved the Ramones and Sex Pistols, wasn't as big on the Clash. But when they played "White Riot" as an encore, that's when I--and I don't know; two dozen? a hundred other people?--ended up on stage. I can't remember what we were doing; singing or jumping or both, I guess. My memory is that I was only a few feet from Strummer, but it's so long ago, I don't know. I did manage to find a download of the whole show.

clemenza, Monday, 1 July 2013 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

wow that is awesome clemenza

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 July 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

That's amazing. And Mick didn't shout at you to "GET OFF THE FUCKING STAGE!!" ?

Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 1 July 2013 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

No, but I remember shouting "Please don't ever get involved with the Wallflowers!" at him.

I've found two other accounts of the same show online:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kenschafer/4916010639/
http://cs.uwaterloo.ca/~plragde/music/concerts.html

clemenza, Monday, 1 July 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

I AM VERY EXCITED FOR THIS POLL.

#theonlybandthatmatters

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 1 July 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

Voting has now officially ended. Countdown begins Monday. Top 60.

Gukbe, Saturday, 13 July 2013 08:03 (eleven years ago) link

WOOOOOO

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 July 2013 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

(Hands up for Hollywood)

HOORAY!

Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 13 July 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

yay

Mark G, Monday, 15 July 2013 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

can't wait for this

g simmel, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

weeeeeeeeeee

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 July 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link


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