That's very cool.
― reet pish (imago), Thursday, 4 July 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
A couple of the tracks are smoother/mellower than that, which turns off some people, but I like that too. I think he's probably the best living non-classical guitarist.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 4 July 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I definitely would prefer the crazier end of this particular spectrum, so long as it's well-composed &c
listened to it 2 or 3 times and it's something I'll pursue. zorn has too much music though
― reet pish (imago), Thursday, 4 July 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
Imago, have you heard Nels Cline Singers' Initiate? It pretty much completely inhabits the crazier end of that spectrum, with none of the smooth/glossy elements that you get with Metheny.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 6 July 2013 04:32 (eleven years ago) link
Heard a couple of tracks. In fact preferred the Metheny thing, although Cline's stuff is obviously very pretty. Metheny thing was sonically more appealing.
― reet pish (imago), Saturday, 6 July 2013 09:18 (eleven years ago) link
Would the Haino/ORourke/Ambarchi album releases this year be included in this? I haven't heard it but liked Imikizushi and feel like that at least somewhat fit these parameters
― you've got a freud (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 6 July 2013 11:04 (eleven years ago) link
*released
― you've got a freud (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 6 July 2013 11:05 (eleven years ago) link
Will listen later when I'm at home. Meanwhile, you gotta hear Jute Gyte.
― reet pish (imago), Saturday, 6 July 2013 11:17 (eleven years ago) link
Would the Haino/ORourke/Ambarchi album releases this year be included in this?
Mmmmmaybe. Definitely good stuff and worth hearing, though. As is the Stephen O'Malley/Steve Noble duo album from a year or two back.
― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 6 July 2013 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, we're on a tangent here (my fault). The Haino/O'Rourke/Ambarchi album is really awesome but isn't really Branca-metal imo.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 6 July 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
Never heard of O'Malley/Noble!
Here's a review (not by me). It's on Bo'Weavil.
― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 6 July 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
I just checked out 777: Cosmosophy a day or two ago. It's pretty great!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:40 (1 month ago)
oh fuck yes this is wonderful
― imago, Saturday, 20 July 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
Caspar Brötzmann put out a new album this week with a group called NOHOME that includes bassist Marino Pliakas and drummer Michael Wertmüller, who are also the rhythm section from Peter Brötzmann's Full Blast group (and who are fucking amazing). The album also includes FM Einheit of Einstürzende Neubauten on two tracks, playing "steel." It was recorded at the group's second-ever concert, last August. Here's video of their first show, from last June:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBZhW2ZuzpI
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 26 July 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
^ relevant to my interests
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 26 July 2013 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
Jute Gyte might have become the best rock band in the world last week:http://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/vast-chains
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 17:42 (ten years ago) link
Yeah just a cursory listen and: wow
― Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
So now I just added that NOHOME to my Amazon Wish List...
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 22:40 (ten years ago) link
this jute gyte thing is working for me
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 23:51 (ten years ago) link
does this marginalize traditional black metal?if so, i'm digging it
― sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link
i don't know what it does. it's arguably a good deal more hellish than that gorguts/ulcerate type stuff that so cruelly frosts my muffins, but i'm finding it p entertaining. sounds like a dying rust whale.
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link
what's with the meninas
― j., Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:12 (ten years ago) link
that caught my eye too, especially since his last album's cover also used an art history 101 staple.
both paintings have mirrors in the background and if you look at the pictures uploaded on bandcamp, the cover of the actual CD for each is a magnified detail of the reflected image
― a chance to cross is a chance to score (anonanon), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link
I think this fellow might be my favourite artist currently operating. Vast Chains is beyond Discontinuities - well beyond it in fact; crazier, darker, more intense - above all, sustained. I'm fairly obsessed with it right now.
― Know Scot! Free Getaway: Glen, Handa Island, Rua Reidh (imago), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 23:36 (ten years ago) link
does this marginalize traditional black metal?
this is really cool, but I don't think it marginalizes anything -- rather, it ties things together. In this case, micro-tonality (and also a similar idea as lamont young had on the Well-Tuned Piano) and black/death metal. I only have heard the previous album thanks to imago recommendation, but on the whole, it doesn't seem as "rocking" (?) as, say, an old-school Gorgoroth or Darkthrone record, but the compositions are totally different. I mean, it sounds "composed", as opposed to banged out and pummelled via lofi production and blastbeats. Seems like something to listen to, at least first, rather than fall into. But it does hit hard, and I respect it going for the jugular. Anyway, really interested thus far.
― Dominique, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 23:49 (ten years ago) link
The way you guys are describing this music makes me want to listen to metal!
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 13 February 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link
technically more Terry Riley but definitely hear some Branca in here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2EGKt8yONIOrthrelm - OV
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 13 February 2014 00:17 (ten years ago) link
Yeah imago my impression is that Vast Chains is actually a step up too.
Note that in the liner notes it says it was made between 2011-12. I wonder if dude has two or three better albums in the can at this moment
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 13 February 2014 05:01 (ten years ago) link
I agree with what people have been saying about that new Jute Gyte, Discontinuities for me was easy to admire but hard to love, this one tempers the microtonal oddness with more tangible riffs and structures that make it just a bit more pleasing to listen to.
I'll second Orthrelm too, Mick Barr is a beast
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 13 February 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link
i wonder if they (jute gyte) go for kind of a droney doomy plod because it helps the micro-tones resonate and collide and pile up, seems like if they played faster, more rhythmically orthodox metal (of some non-doom style), it would get just cacophonous
― j., Friday, 14 February 2014 00:39 (ten years ago) link
o wait this next one's a lot more frantic
which makes for more of a no wavey sonic youthey chimey thing, with more 'unison' lines
― j., Friday, 14 February 2014 00:41 (ten years ago) link
mommy, i'm scared
― j., Friday, 14 February 2014 00:45 (ten years ago) link
this sounds like what people say sonic youth sounded like in the 80s
― j., Friday, 14 February 2014 00:48 (ten years ago) link
I'd dispute that it's a 'droney doomy plod' throughout - while the pace is rarely what you'd call hurried (Jute Gyte being of the 'let it stew slowly into shape' school of musical resolution) there are practically ambient passages interspersed with frantic, extremely noisy sections that are held back from cacophony not by sonic reserve but by excellent and thoughtful composition. The guitar tracks are overlaid with a great deal of care and technical precision, so that a certain clarity is always present even through walls of microtonal & polymetric distortion. I don't think the speed is what makes it listenable. Microtonal metal played in the blistering styles of Orthrelm or Deathspell Omega might also work, as both of those acts are similarly precise in their composition. I just think Adam K is a brilliant, brilliant songwriter who has found an incredible way to realise his visions.
oh xposts :D
― Know Scot! Free Getaway: Glen, Handa Island, Rua Reidh (imago), Friday, 14 February 2014 00:49 (ten years ago) link
i do think there's more of a lockstepping to the arrangements once they hit higher speeds, for the most part, but then speed confers a different sort of effect on the sounds, say, when they become relatively more repetitive, than at the slower speeds where things sound less repetitive, more lyrical
― j., Friday, 14 February 2014 00:53 (ten years ago) link
yes - at the slower speeds it has the feel of a great, slightly and deliberately disjointed engine, a lyrical treatise as you say - perhaps one that attempts to reveal the chaos immanent in order, or vice versa - but at greater speeds it has a more direct & annihilatory purpose, the pigfuck into gnostic oblivion, the menacing, chanting expression of an attempt to express whose moment has already flown (and yet, cruelly repeating - the repetition ensuring it wasn't just a passing thought but a state of perhaps permanent insanity)
the final track is a particular masterpiece as it manages to synthesis these two speeds into a single lumbering-yet-lightspeed manifesto, a wavering, confounding slab of sound. in fact I'd say this album achieves this synthesis to varying degrees throughout - and does so more successfully than its already-brilliant predecessor
the melodies here are so, so lovely, obv; so lovely and so blasted
― Know Scot! Free Getaway: Glen, Handa Island, Rua Reidh (imago), Friday, 14 February 2014 01:03 (ten years ago) link
that poor obliterated pig
― j., Friday, 14 February 2014 01:04 (ten years ago) link
this track is pretty badass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVWF__KVJHs
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Sunday, 16 February 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link
mentioned elsewhere, but i just ordered CD-Rs of the last two joots off dude's bandcamp. he looks to have more than 20 full albums available, all currently in print on CD-R & avail for download. anyone dug back beyond the recent "microtonal black metal" stuff? loving discontinuities and vast chaing, but content to explore there for the moment.
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Sunday, 16 February 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link
hobo chaing ba
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Sunday, 16 February 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link
theres a ton on Spotify
― ۩, Sunday, 16 February 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
The Jute Gyte music seems interesting but the vocals suck-diddly-uck. I have download links for the two new ones but haven't used them yet because of that.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 16 February 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
interesting interview with Adam K:
http://thegrindthatannoys.com/2014/03/27/jute-gyte-interview/
― what goes in vegans stays in vegans (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 11:53 (ten years ago) link
Rivalling the Jute Gyte album imo:https://soundcloud.com/flenserrecords/sets/botanist-vi-flora?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=facebook
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 16 August 2014 04:01 (ten years ago) link
Better link:https://soundcloud.com/flenserrecords/sets/botanist-vi-flora
Yes! The new Botanist album is so fucking majestic and moving. I love it. Gives me a Branca vibe big time.
― Bloody Pelt Found Near the Scene of the Crime (Skrot Montague), Saturday, 16 August 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link
okay I'm way into Botanist
― ODB's missing grammy (bernard snowy), Saturday, 16 August 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link
"tags: metal avant-garde black metal experimental hammered dulcimer San Francisco"
could this be the album to finally bring my mother into the black metal fold???
― ODB's missing grammy (bernard snowy), Saturday, 16 August 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link
yeah that's amazing
reminded me of the latest MBV album a bit
― i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Saturday, 16 August 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link
Hm, maybe I should actually listen to the MBV then. (And, yes, Botanist's stuff is almost all done on amplified hammered dulcimer.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 18 August 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link