Ooh Ooh Ooh, Complete CLASH POLL (that's a laugh) - ILX Artist Poll #41 (?) - Voting Ends July 9th at Midnight (EST)

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Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, the easiest way to tell is when you try to play something and you can't figure it out, or it sounds wrong, and then someone tells you it's in an alternate tuning. See also: capos.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

Thank goodness, it sounded like you were idly skipping through London Calling going "A .. G ... open E"

Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

Keef's whole open-tuning deal was just to make the songs as easy to play as possible, right? Feel like I read something about him saying you should never need more than two fingers.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 8 July 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

I worked it out years ago in standard tuning, E and Amaj7, adding fingers to the 4th fret to make the riff. Had no idea it was in open E.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 8 July 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

Open G takes about 30 seconds to do, I used to know how when I played guitar but have long forgotten.

Just voted. I cannot believe the quality of songs that didn't make my ballot. The Clash were just insanely good.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 8 July 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

Open G is a pretty easy alternate tuning. Keith didn't really start using it a lot until the late '60s, maybe 1969. But it's pretty key to a lot of his stuff from "Honky Tonk Women" on up.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 July 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, my song list after the first cut was still 120 or so. Chopping down to 30 was the hard part, then I ordered the crucial top 15 or so, then just left the rest in whatever order they happened to be in.
xp

WilliamC, Monday, 8 July 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

My list of absolute essentials was at 38. This was gruelling.

The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 8 July 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good.

Yes.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 8 July 2013 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

I got it down to 32 with some brutal cuts. I feel like I'm killing my children.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 July 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

Poor Sean F. Snappin!

WilliamC, Monday, 8 July 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

Ballot sent. Fuck, that wasn't easy. First draft of my ballot was pretty much their entire output (minus CtC).

Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 8 July 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

I might excise some sacred cows I know everyone will vote for.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 July 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

I did a good bit of that.

WilliamC, Monday, 8 July 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

Ballot sent. Only voted for one set of the original & dub versions. Ditched a whole bunch of "hits"

EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 July 2013 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, that's 26 ballots in so far.

Gukbe, Monday, 8 July 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, I lied and picked two songs and their dub counterparts. I love dub Clash!

EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

so a propos of this thread I heard "I fought the law" on of all things sf drivetime radio a couple days ago. clearly summoned by this thread. still had just incredible stopping power. urgency, immediacy, all that cliche stuff. but and this is what makes the clash stand out wrt the punk/noise convo upthread this incredible clarity too.

and that's sandwiched between modern brickwalled-for-radio stuff. glad I haven't sent in a ballot yet bc this track clearly needs to be higher than I had it.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

Nobody forget to vote for:

Stay Free
One More Time
Washington Bullets

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

I voted for one of those, and another was a one of my very last cuts.

WilliamC, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

I voted for one too.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

Two of them in my top ten so far, no worries.

Three Word Username, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

one of those songs is my no.2

Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

sent my ballot!

some dude, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

mine too

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

I'm slightly bummed that I'm going to be out of town for a week and will be following the rollout in snatched moments during my Chicago trip.

WilliamC, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

I Fought The Law xp - totally agree that there's a mysterious power to that track. I was iirc the first to nominate for our 20th century poll and that was one of the first things that immediately leapt to mind - which I can't explain at all, it was never more than a ditty to me at that point.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

also obv the sweet percussion action on "robbing people with a - pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop - six gun" but yeah that alone doesn't explain what they drew out of that old chestnut.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

They give it oomph and danger? I love the original, but it is quaint.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 July 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

Washington Bullets would have made my list if we went to 40.

The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

hope i'm not the only one voting the shit out of Give'Em Enough Rope.

Gukbe, are you sending confirmation mails?

g simmel, Monday, 8 July 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

i will be voting tonight :D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

no you weren't!

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first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

I'll be doing it in the morning, promise

Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 July 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

I'm a big believer in the Clash mythology, but I don't think Bobby Fuller is quaint. (Sorry if that's just semantic nitpicking.)

timellison, Monday, 8 July 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

I'm slightly bummed that I'm going to be out of town for a week and will be following the rollout in snatched moments during my Chicago trip.

dude I'm still bummed that I can't even do a ballot due to travelling, let alone follow any of the rollout

pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 8 July 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

disco poll is going to be worse though

pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 8 July 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

Bobby Fuller isn't quaint, per se. But the Clash version takes that song and pretty much owns it.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

This is practically (for obvious reasons) Buddy Holly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPXnoLAEUSQ

Of course, Buddy Holly is one of the few acts I may love more than the Clash. Quaint ain't the same thing as bad!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

Gukbe, are you sending confirmation mails?

― g simmel, Monday, July 8, 2013 10:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I was but I've been slacking. i'll get on it.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

btw I'm not sure when the rollout will commence. I put the deadline on a Tuesday night because of the holidays, but I loathe stopping a rollout on a weekend. I guess it'll come down to how fast I can tabulate the results, which I won't be able to get to until Wednesday afternoon (US Time).

Gukbe, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

They pretty much OWN "Police on My Back" as well!

timellison, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:41 (eleven years ago) link

Sent!

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 01:16 (eleven years ago) link

notable that when the Mescaleroes started, Joe was playing a huge amount of Clash songs and solo material in their sets -- but within a couple of years, he'd quietly dropped all Strummer/Jones originals and was only playing Mescaleroes stuff and covers that the Clash had done

pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 01:31 (eleven years ago) link

I want to say when I saw Strummer tour in I think 2001, he really only played a couple, like "London Calling" and "White Man in Hammersmith," Then at the end, he had the audience vote which one they wanted to hear a second time.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 03:10 (eleven years ago) link

so glad I have until tomorrow, I have a bunch of songs but no real order yet

sleeve, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 03:48 (eleven years ago) link

They own all their covers in a way, but the Equals' "Police on My Back" is a thing of unsurpassed beauty.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 04:52 (eleven years ago) link

JiC - the show I saw had four encores and ended up with him doing a 1989 solo b-side acapella because they'd ran out of songs the band knew. But that was January 2000 and the band only existed from 1999-2002!

how is "abebe" formed? (sic), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 05:18 (eleven years ago) link

<3 Bobby Fuller's drummer, hunched over on the bottom bunk. He does the pop pop pop pop pop pop as well.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 09:03 (eleven years ago) link


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