i will be voting tonight :D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
no you weren't!
xpost
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link
I'll be doing it in the morning, promise
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 July 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link
I'm a big believer in the Clash mythology, but I don't think Bobby Fuller is quaint. (Sorry if that's just semantic nitpicking.)
― timellison, Monday, 8 July 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
I'm slightly bummed that I'm going to be out of town for a week and will be following the rollout in snatched moments during my Chicago trip.
dude I'm still bummed that I can't even do a ballot due to travelling, let alone follow any of the rollout
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 8 July 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
disco poll is going to be worse though
Bobby Fuller isn't quaint, per se. But the Clash version takes that song and pretty much owns it.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
This is practically (for obvious reasons) Buddy Holly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPXnoLAEUSQ
Of course, Buddy Holly is one of the few acts I may love more than the Clash. Quaint ain't the same thing as bad!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link
Gukbe, are you sending confirmation mails?
― g simmel, Monday, July 8, 2013 10:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
I was but I've been slacking. i'll get on it.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:14 (ten years ago) link
btw I'm not sure when the rollout will commence. I put the deadline on a Tuesday night because of the holidays, but I loathe stopping a rollout on a weekend. I guess it'll come down to how fast I can tabulate the results, which I won't be able to get to until Wednesday afternoon (US Time).
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
They pretty much OWN "Police on My Back" as well!
― timellison, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:41 (ten years ago) link
Sent!
― Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 01:16 (ten years ago) link
notable that when the Mescaleroes started, Joe was playing a huge amount of Clash songs and solo material in their sets -- but within a couple of years, he'd quietly dropped all Strummer/Jones originals and was only playing Mescaleroes stuff and covers that the Clash had done
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link
I want to say when I saw Strummer tour in I think 2001, he really only played a couple, like "London Calling" and "White Man in Hammersmith," Then at the end, he had the audience vote which one they wanted to hear a second time.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link
so glad I have until tomorrow, I have a bunch of songs but no real order yet
― sleeve, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 03:48 (ten years ago) link
They own all their covers in a way, but the Equals' "Police on My Back" is a thing of unsurpassed beauty.
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 04:52 (ten years ago) link
JiC - the show I saw had four encores and ended up with him doing a 1989 solo b-side acapella because they'd ran out of songs the band knew. But that was January 2000 and the band only existed from 1999-2002!
― how is "abebe" formed? (sic), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 05:18 (ten years ago) link
<3 Bobby Fuller's drummer, hunched over on the bottom bunk. He does the pop pop pop pop pop pop as well.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 09:03 (ten years ago) link
Guys, this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxcYa_6_HM8
It's a lot of things, quaint it aint!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 09:14 (ten years ago) link
Voted. No sensible way to separate anything after about no.15 tbh. Normally that means the band have run out of gas - but not The Clash, they have so much good stuff.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 13:12 (ten years ago) link
Any failure by this poll to place Rudie Can't Fail in the top 10 will erode my faith in humanity.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link
Need someone for a savior?
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
First I'll have to cure my temper.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
voted!
― sleeve, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 9 July 2013
cf Death or Glory imo. expect it'll tank in this poll due to antirockist bias but to my ear it's nothing short of a complete musical and spiritual triumph and kinda encapsulates everything i love about the band. it rocks, it rags, it rages and it's wise enough not to exclude itself from criticism. catalogs tyrannies of class and commerce on its way to a long hard look in the mirror at the subtle tyranny of narrative and the personal cost of punk mythmaking.
man... the bridge alone is better than a lot of bands ever get. gonna raise trouble, gonna raise hell, gonna fight you brother, gonna fight til you lose.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
I really want to poll Overpowered By Funk vs The Crunge
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
I really want I'm Not Down to be the big sleeper LC hit, but fear it'll be getting overlooked instead
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
xpost i'm on a roll here hell just the intro even i mean come on. like muscles rippling under a tiger's skin, set to explode at any moment...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwzMuuGOsVI
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
can't hear that second verse anymore without thinking of c0bian tbqh
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
I think the idea is to not give away too much of what we voted for til the results start rolling out, but I will say that I had 11 LC tracks on my ballot.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
Me too! Pretty certain that comfortably outscores any other album in any of my previous ballots.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
though Sandinista! did pretty well too
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
I really tried to rein in the LC love too, but I know I was lying to myself. I also tried to excise some of their singles, 'til I realised that was just being stupid.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
I tried to not let Sandinista dominate my ballot
― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
My album breakdown (at least as I define "album")
The Clash (US): 6Rope: 3Black Market: 2London: 9Sandinista: 4Combat: 4 Crap: 1Non-album: 1
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
This ballot was surprisingly easy for me because I had 20-some tracks that were just absolutely going to be on there, no question. So I only really had to make hard calls about 7 or 8 (out of 40-plus more that were serious contenders).
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I'm not even sure I could hazard a stab at this.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
Hazard it!
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
Deadline is today? No way.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
You're kidding me Josh, you've got to do this. You're only like 3% of the electorate at this point anyway.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
Well you really have until tomorrow afternoon.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
You don't have to think about it too hard. The Clash is a feeling, man.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
I feel like voting for everything except two or three tracks.
Oh, I can do it later, I guess.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
I left "Train in Vain" off and feel no regrets.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
I'll go to bat for Death Or Glory. I'm a sucker for anthems. It's their Born To Run for me.
On that note, I think they played the song all of maybe 5 times? How did that happen? It was pretty great each time, too. It seems like a bizarre setlist omission to me, to not play Death Or Glory and let Paul Simonon stagger through increasingly painful versions of Guns Of Brixton.
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
Well, it's *his* song, innit?
Then again, Topper never sang his one, did he? (Ivan/GI Joe)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
Also, I wanna put Three Card Trick on my top 30, based on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1gWBPRXGJ0
Don't think I can though because the studio version isn't even in the same ballpark. To this day I'm amazed at Cut The Crap. I like most of the songs better than Combat Rock, but then they just systematically ruined everything in ways I didn't even think were possible. Guitar tone ruined, solid drummer replaced with drum machine, 1985 keyboards all over the place. Great songs deleted and replaced with last-minute songs that barely qualify as music. Pitch-shifted vocals for no reason. How does Jericho and In The Pouring Rain not make that album and Play To Win does? It boggles the mind.
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link
Topper sings "Ivan Meets GI Joe" on that Amsterdam 81 show I was raving about upthread. It's a really strong performance actually.
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
Probably because they couldn't't be made to fit the blueprint..
I do have a Clash2 boot it's pretty great
xpost wtyg
― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
I got given redund notice at one place of work, and accidentally on my last 2 days I got given unfettered internet, like really fast broadband when I find't have it at home. I downloaded tons from The Clash Zone, fully expecting that it would't be there long (I was right, it's long gone now)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link