Ooh Ooh Ooh, Complete CLASH POLL (that's a laugh) - ILX Artist Poll #41 (?) - Voting Ends July 9th at Midnight (EST)

Ah. I was just wondering how you divvied up the points starting at 50 as you did in the New Order poll.

voted!

also sidenote: I really hate the US version of the s/t

track organization is bollocks. BOLLOCKS I say. Not opening that album with Janie Jones is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of.

wish I had voted for more Give Em Enough Rope but I didn't want to pore over it too much. Go with me gut, that's the Clash way

oh...this is how i did it

Usual scoring method (1:50, 2:46, 3:43, 4:40…) will be applied.

I like about half of GEER, but as its the half that is made up of the singles/most frequently anthologized tracks, I never find any need to listen to the record itself.

(sigh) Sent.

sorry, i should have emailed you.

looking forward to these results Gukbe!

also sidenote: I really hate the US version of the s/t

track organization is bollocks. BOLLOCKS I say. Not opening that album with Janie Jones is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of.

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:47 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'd been listening to this for about five years before I knew it was different from the UK version, much less that it was recorded over a 2-year period. Because the first song was "Clash City Rockers," and because it sounded like "I Can't Explain," I instantly became a Clash fan for life. The UK version, great as it is, always sounded lacking by comparison.

It's like the US Beatles records: I'll take The Beatles' Second Album over With The Beatles in a heartbeat.

wtf tarfumes I thought we were friends

D:

haha :)

I love the UK version, but any record with "Complete Control" is better than any record without it.

^^^

How I break it down to an extent.

uhh, first the raiders, now this, vg. :)

Delving further into my love for the US s/t, I remember really clearly my dad bringing that album home from the local library in I guess probably 1979 or '80. The first thing there is the improbability of that album being at our local library, which was a dusty small-town place in remote Finger Lakes New York. Dad was a '60s rock guy, straight-up Dylan/Beatles/Stones, but he wascurious enough about the whole punk thing to get this record out of the library. I was 10 years old and just completely fascinated by the album. I already knew the Bobby Fuller version of "I Fought the Law," but I loved how much faster and noisier the Clash version was. The rest of the album just sounded like fast noise to me, but fast noise is pretty appealing to a 10-year-old. I spent a while listening to it and looking at the picture of policemen on the back running to some kind of emergency that was obviously created by the scary/cool guys on the front. Then the album went back to the library, and it was probably four years or so before I got back around to buying my own copy. I made a cassette dub of it, and I listened to it on the school bus, sometimes every day for days at a stretch. I had all the other albums too, and loved them, but that particular collection of songs and sounds has always felt like something personal to me. It planted some ideas for me that I think opened up a whole lot of things. And song for song, I'd put it up against anything.

us version was the first lp i ever bought (on cassette)!

catalogs tyrannies of class and commerce on its way to a long hard look in the mirror at the subtle tyranny of narrative and the personal cost of punk mythmaking.

So well put. I take the uplift outro to mean "Don't mythologize, organize," but the song seems almost stranded with those hopeless dads and bands until Strummer adds his political version of "won't you give me a smile?" and then let's it build into something more. The Clash made optimism seem tough.

"Clash City Rockers" is the only song appended to the U.S. version that pales besides the others. As for the britishes version, I don't "Protex Blue" or "Deny" tbh.

Man, the piano on "Clash City Rockers" alone ... I just love that song.

Also one of Joe's greatest vocals, pure snarl.

tipsy's story reminds me of the whole year of high school I spent with the only thing in my walkman being a cassette dub of the US s/t on one side and Too Much Joy's ...finally on the other.

Love these dudes.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/may/23/the-clash-mick-jones-paul-simonon

Great piece, but I found this part weirdly infuriating:

At least you managed to repair your friendships quickly after Mick was sacked.

MJ: Oh, very soon. That was the amazing thing. There was only a short time when we weren't really talking to each other.

PS: When me and Joe came and got involved in your video [for the 1985 single The Medicine Show by Jones's post-Clash group Big Audio Dynamite], in some ways that was a visual statement saying: "We're friends. We're OK."

THEN DO A FUCKING CLASH RECORD! YOU'RE RIGHT THERE! THE CLASH! DO MORE CLASH!

I don't know, it sounds like they needed to get out of the band to not hate each other.

I think it's interesting how the big rift seems to have been Paul-Mick more than Joe-Mick. It's like if George had broken up the Beatles.

What up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdEt9EuDQhE

tarfumes/tipsy mothra otm re clash city rockers feel so bad for alfred and vg had no idea they were so broken inside ;_;

>:(

spare me yr pity

irl lol :D

just sent mine.

i am kinda flummoxed by the idea that 'janie jones' is a better song than 'clash city rockers,' or that CCR is a bad song at all!

When I first got into The Clash the one song that bothered me was "Clash City Rockers". Struck me as corny to use your name in a song name. I have since come around though.

there is something slightly monkees-esque about that, i'll admit.

wtf? Janie Jones should win this

What's the over under on number of fights that will happen in the rollout thread?

Realising I didn't really ask if we should count "Capital Radio" and "Capital Radio Two" as the same song. I would say "no", but I realise I didn't set out any parameters for it when I started.

No-one has mentioned Safe European Home, probably the greatest album opener ever by anyone. Make sure you don't forget it folks.

don't worry, it is unforgettable

xxxxxp I'm Not Down was the only London Calling track on my ballot (apart from Train In Vain which is top 5 forever)

Johnny Fever, surely you mean clashes?

There will be gobbing. Watch your screens.

I'm also down with I'm Not Down. Am already regretting things that fell off the bottom of my ballot, like Death or Glory, Pressure Drop (I know, insane, isn't it?), Gates of the West

I voted for two songs with "Clash" in the title. Their mythmaking seems more cheeky than corny to me.

"Safe European Home" is one of my faves, musically and lyrically. Hard to imagine anyone else making a balls-out self-deprecating anthem about white liberal racial anxiety. And that song makes the best use of Pearlman, or vice-versa -- it sounds like it was shot out of a cannon.

Love that song, was high in my ballot.

Didn't vote "Pressure Drop" because it's the rare Clash cover that I don't think bests the original. They got to remake it again in a Clash stylie as "Revolution Rock."

"Safe European Home" is very high on my ballot; that''s all I say.

i am kinda flummoxed by the idea that 'janie jones' is a better song than 'clash city rockers,' or that CCR is a bad song at all!

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.),

not once did I say it was a bad song! I said it was my least favorite of the added songs.

Yeah, really, there are only a spare handful of Clash songs one could argue are actually bad, and most of them are goofs.

...or that CCR is a bad song at all!

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.)

Disorienting acronym.

Immediately imagined Fogerty singing it ("boin down the suburbs with the half closed eyes")

thinking about the Clash-named songs as being like the Monkees makes me happier with Clash mythology. unlike the Stones & their "greatest rock & roll band in the world" (cf. http://ethanrussell.com/americanstory/?p=407) I've never picked up on any tounge-in-cheek-ness re. the bullshit of that mythology on the band's part...but I also haven't read deeply on the band or maybe even listened close enough.

love the clash but let's not pretend they weren't deeply corny or awash in bullshit mythology, there's a reason this happened: http://youtu.be/5tjAQSxWdhM?t=3m20s

When I first got into The Clash the one song that bothered me was "Clash City Rockers". Struck me as corny to use your name in a song name. I have since come around though.

― Gukbe, Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:49 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there is something slightly monkees-esque about that, i'll admit.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:50 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The first song on Black Sabbath's first album is called "Black Sabbath" wtf is wrong with you people

kinda 'eh' on 'clash city rockers' but having the name of yr band in the title of yr most who-like song is just good form i think