The dylannn (west coast hip-hop) listening club

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I remember liking this at the time but tried last night and couldn't even get through it. Make You Feel that Way is an alright nostalgia cut but problems 1-4 otm.

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link

Can I get in line to recommend another one. thnx

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah

Whiney you're up.

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1c/Were-in-this-together.L.jpg

Low Profile - We're in This Together

bando brothers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link

(1989)

bando brothers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link

can we recommend mixtapes or are we strictly on albums

also not clear to me how far back we should go, Whiney obviously dipping into the "golden age" era there

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link

anything goes

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link

never even heard of Low Profile

lady steendriver (The Reverend), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link

that's WC

"If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link

(& DJ Alladin)

"If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link

oh word

lady steendriver (The Reverend), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link

he looks so young there it's crazy

"If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link

they had a song on this ice-t posse comp which i used to play a lot back in the day

http://www.shugarecords.com/images/products/large/9eb8623c-9a4b-4565-8483-efb647ed9e11-0.JPG

also featured young sopranos lookin' everlast

"If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link

low profile album surprisingly good.

dylannn, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link

low profile - we're in this together

my knowledge of rap before '94 is weak-- not just the names or who was out, but like everything: the language, how it was made (wc notes this was made with "one turntable, a gang of disco breaks and a broken 808"), the ideology, i dunno, i can backtrack from things i know but it's mostly a mystery to me. i remember ethan (rip big homie) and i listening to the big playback, and to me the beats were hard as fuck. i wanted to hear fabolous or az on the "brooklyn blew up the bridge" beat because it was so loud and hard to me, minimal and so much room to play with as an mc. that's why "da bridge 2001" is such a hard record to me, cormega and tragedy and nas and prodigy on an oldschool marley marl beat! outside of rare throwback joints like that, the only rappers that were interested in referencing that sound were reactionary nerds and 4 elements graffiti dudes.

we're in this together, i've got the same reaction... the way the bass rattles at the start of "aladdin's on a rampage," the scratched horn squiggle on "how ya livin," the hiss of the drums on "that's y they do it." musically, it just sounds fresh as fuck to me. but wc, same problem as i have with a lot of golden age rap. it feels like it lacks complexity, lyrically, rhythmically. it feels very constrained. if you've heard "out the belly of CA, hated by the DEA / skatin in a six-trey drinkin on e&j" millenial wc, it's hard to go back.

dylannn, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link

Also some dude feel free to jump in on these as well as I think it would be cool to read a couple different angles.

― Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, July 9, 2013 10:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i definitely wanna listen along and participate in the thread, just haven't found the time yet

what rhymes with Gukbe? (some dude), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

Okay I think I'm up.

My pick is:

'Innercity Griots' - Freestyle Fellowship (1993).

I hope Blackalicious hasn't soured you on the less gangster west coast sound. This record is very tough in its own way.

viacom dios, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link

re problem #1, from the horse's gab

never an anti-gangster, the ghetto is still in the mind
if i was not rappin a nigga might be up inside
all of your terraces stealin wallets and necklaces, i
give hella gratefulness for the blessing to share this and fly
everywhere, people outside the culture now try to define
what it is but it is mine, such it is love it with blind
vision but new division is vivid we livin inside
vicious vindictive and mental prisons from within the mind

mind u this was 2006

zvookster, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link

Sisifamilia pick is next then the Viacom diss pick after.

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 00:13 (ten years ago) link

i'd like to think it's not so much about prejudice against "hip-hop taken to new levels" as much as i'm just not feeling what blackalicious do, musically it doesn't move me, lyrically i can't even understand what dudes are saying, i just don't get it!

dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 00:36 (ten years ago) link

Hip Hop taken to new levels.

dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 00:37 (ten years ago) link

E-40 - Grit & Grind

ahh you fucker this would have been mine too. prime hyphy-era type sound that dylannn seems to be up for.

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 01:33 (ten years ago) link

other slept-on classic I was thinking of was WC and the Maad Circle's "Ain't a Damn Thing Changed" but Whiney already covered WC with the Low Profile pick. I guess I'm down to a King Tee or Too $hort rec at this point. I figure dylannn wouldn't go for Digital Underground :(

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 01:35 (ten years ago) link

Freestyle Fellowship rec is pretty good but that was an act that was promising that never seemed to really deliver. Aceyalone managed some decent solo singles afterwards. I assume dylannn's heard the Pharcyde record (which I always think of as being the in the same bag, albeit much better and funnier)

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link

I guess there's still Mac Dre, Rappin 4-Tay, Federation, and 2Pac. You've heard of 2Pac right dylannn?

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 01:49 (ten years ago) link

damnit upper miss took one of the three I was thinking of. oh well there's always Beeda Weeda

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 July 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link

my next pick was going to be 'get in where you fit in' by too short. i want to know what he thinks about 'just another day' and 'blowjob betty'

rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link

upper miss out of order and jacking up the rotation! every one hold up a minute. read the OP and ONE AT A TIME PLEASE. here's what has happened and also the order of things:

Spottie - Suga Free 'Street Gospel'
D-40 - Jacka/Husalah 'Mob Trial'
Reverend - B-Legit 'The Hemp Museum'
octobeard - Blackalicious 'Blazing Arrow'
Whiney - Low Profile 'We're In This Together'

Sisilafami - E40 'Grit & Grind'
viacom diss - Freestyle Fellowship 'Innercity Griots'
Neanderthal -
fadanuf4erybody -
Shakey -
Upper Mississipi -
D-40 -
Spottie -

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:13 (ten years ago) link

oh cool. I'll let m@tt keep his choice tho, I've decided on another classic hardcore gangsta album. will wait my turn tho like a good lil thug

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:17 (ten years ago) link

sign me up please

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:31 (ten years ago) link

cool. I'll tuck you in after deej.

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link

i'm thinking dylannn would appreciate some lyrical/"conscious" stuff, maybe like the coup, or kam?

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link

def Kam and a big maaaaaaaybe on Coup

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link

maybe "Genocide and Juice"

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link

Haha I'm sorry neandrethal can atl & I can do some obscure dudes like eazy-e & ice cube

"If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link

yeah kam and the coup are different sides of that coin for sure

spottie my first pick would have been "street gospel" too, so good looks there

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link

yeah i was gonna say, dylannn had heard ice cube???

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link

has*

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link

Coup is worth a shot, I think a diverse range of styles is cool. Lets not forget he mentioned not knowing much Cube so I think some early Cube is a necessity here eventually.

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link

if he likes shit that sounds like bombs and sirens going off all the time then yeah

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link

cosign the Kam rec, both albums are dope

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link

Haha I'm sorry neandrethal can atl & I can do some obscure dudes like eazy-e & ice cube

― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:37 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i cant stay mad at you. I'll leave your pick blank for now and you can rec it again when its your turn or shoot for something else.

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link

quick notes:
i've heard "blowjob betty" and "just another day"
i've heard that freestyle fellowship album but haven't seriously listened to it in a while
i've heard quite a bit of ice cube just because it's ice cube but i never sat down and focused on him
i've heard the coup but never seriously listened to them
i don't think i really like records that sound like bombs and sirens usually but the bay area seems to do it okay

dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link

tupac... i saw a clip of him on something called "arsenio" on youtube once by accident, not really sure what his deal is. i think my dad's got a tupac t-shirt.

dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:53 (ten years ago) link

i've heard that freestyle fellowship album but haven't seriously listened to it in a while

Do you want to listen to this again or would you rather have a different choice?

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 04:29 (ten years ago) link

yeah, let's switch it up! if we could...

dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 04:31 (ten years ago) link

alright no problem. Grit and Grind next and then viacom diss will get another pick ready for after that.

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 04:34 (ten years ago) link

genuine lol at "my dad has a tupac tshirt"

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 04:56 (ten years ago) link


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