I guess there's still Mac Dre, Rappin 4-Tay, Federation, and 2Pac. You've heard of 2Pac right dylannn?
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 01:49 (ten years ago) link
damnit upper miss took one of the three I was thinking of. oh well there's always Beeda Weeda
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 July 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link
my next pick was going to be 'get in where you fit in' by too short. i want to know what he thinks about 'just another day' and 'blowjob betty'
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link
upper miss out of order and jacking up the rotation! every one hold up a minute. read the OP and ONE AT A TIME PLEASE. here's what has happened and also the order of things:
Spottie - Suga Free 'Street Gospel'D-40 - Jacka/Husalah 'Mob Trial'Reverend - B-Legit 'The Hemp Museum'octobeard - Blackalicious 'Blazing Arrow'Whiney - Low Profile 'We're In This Together'Sisilafami - E40 'Grit & Grind'viacom diss - Freestyle Fellowship 'Innercity Griots'Neanderthal -fadanuf4erybody - Shakey -Upper Mississipi - D-40 -Spottie -
― caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:13 (ten years ago) link
oh cool. I'll let m@tt keep his choice tho, I've decided on another classic hardcore gangsta album. will wait my turn tho like a good lil thug
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:17 (ten years ago) link
sign me up please
― k3vin k., Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:31 (ten years ago) link
cool. I'll tuck you in after deej.
― caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link
i'm thinking dylannn would appreciate some lyrical/"conscious" stuff, maybe like the coup, or kam?
― k3vin k., Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link
def Kam and a big maaaaaaaybe on Coup
― caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link
maybe "Genocide and Juice"
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link
Haha I'm sorry neandrethal can atl & I can do some obscure dudes like eazy-e & ice cube
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link
yeah kam and the coup are different sides of that coin for sure
spottie my first pick would have been "street gospel" too, so good looks there
― k3vin k., Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link
yeah i was gonna say, dylannn had heard ice cube???
― k3vin k., Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link
has*
Coup is worth a shot, I think a diverse range of styles is cool. Lets not forget he mentioned not knowing much Cube so I think some early Cube is a necessity here eventually.
― caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link
if he likes shit that sounds like bombs and sirens going off all the time then yeah
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link
cosign the Kam rec, both albums are dope
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:37 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol i cant stay mad at you. I'll leave your pick blank for now and you can rec it again when its your turn or shoot for something else.
― caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link
quick notes:i've heard "blowjob betty" and "just another day"i've heard that freestyle fellowship album but haven't seriously listened to it in a whilei've heard quite a bit of ice cube just because it's ice cube but i never sat down and focused on himi've heard the coup but never seriously listened to themi don't think i really like records that sound like bombs and sirens usually but the bay area seems to do it okay
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link
tupac... i saw a clip of him on something called "arsenio" on youtube once by accident, not really sure what his deal is. i think my dad's got a tupac t-shirt.
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:53 (ten years ago) link
i've heard that freestyle fellowship album but haven't seriously listened to it in a while
Do you want to listen to this again or would you rather have a different choice?
― caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 04:29 (ten years ago) link
yeah, let's switch it up! if we could...
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 04:31 (ten years ago) link
alright no problem. Grit and Grind next and then viacom diss will get another pick ready for after that.
― caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 04:34 (ten years ago) link
genuine lol at "my dad has a tupac tshirt"
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 04:56 (ten years ago) link
i kind of want to say i've heard the e-40 too because it seems preferable to having to publicly explain why i don't like e-40.
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 07:31 (ten years ago) link
i like every guest rapper on this better than e-40, including afroman.
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 07:33 (ten years ago) link
I feel like if you don't know tupac there's a massive puzzle piece missing from everything you listen to. That stuff had a meteoric impact on the genre
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 11 July 2013 07:40 (ten years ago) link
Not even on some like/ dislike subjective opinions shit, but the pure siesmic effects of his final three albums
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 11 July 2013 07:41 (ten years ago) link
you think he's worth checking out? i thought he was kind of like a bob marley type thing where people just had his shirts and posters
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 07:44 (ten years ago) link
ha I thought you were joking in that Pac post! Absolutely you should listen to him deej otm.
― caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 08:01 (ten years ago) link
gahhhh
― k3vin k., Thursday, 11 July 2013 08:01 (ten years ago) link
what the hell
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 08:08 (ten years ago) link
yall serious right now??????
what do you think is going on here? i know this thread kinda outs me as a neophyte with some pretty wellknown music but try to keep it in perspective. when i say i don't know, like, ice cube or e-40, you gotta know what that means. like, cube, i'm saying i'm young enough that i think of him 50% as the dude in barbershop and he hasn't released an important album since i could count how old i was on two hands but i know the big records, i know the importance of amerikkka's most wanted, death certificate, i could tell you who he was in beef with roughly when.
pac, man... even with the kids that still rocked bleached undercuts in 8th grade, white working class kids or native kids that just moved down from nipawin, even if he was dead by the time we were downloading "brenda's got a baby" off napster in information processing class or buying scratched up copies of all eyez on me at pawn shops, pac was a legendary figure. that's outside of me ever being into rap or whatever. that's just growing up in the 90s.
apart from that, i've been trying to write about rap music for, like, ten years now. even if i've had some corny periods in my rap listening and i spent too much time contemplating it was written, pac is crucial to a lot of what i love. how could i be feeling z-ro and never heard of pac???? pac's ghost haunts at least a small corner of everything i love.
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 08:11 (ten years ago) link
haha was gonna say
― caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 08:12 (ten years ago) link
You want another pick from sisi then?
― caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 11 July 2013 08:16 (ten years ago) link
nope. i'm fired up now.
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 08:18 (ten years ago) link
every future review will contain several references to pac. i'm hopin my true motherfuckers know, this be the realest shit i ever wrote.
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 08:19 (ten years ago) link
i'm also going to dig up some ten year old william wiggins posts repping for pac's raw emotion over the good times swagger of big.
but i'm going to write about this e-40 album first.
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 08:21 (ten years ago) link
put me in for another round
― lady steendriver (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 July 2013 08:40 (ten years ago) link
e-40 - grit & grind
this isn't really fair because i mean i've heard at least a taste of something off most albums e-40 has put out over the last couple decades. he's been cosigned by and worked with a lot of rappers i respect. i've heard e-40. every track off in a major way has popped up on a screw tape at least once, and in the case of "dusted and disgusted" and "sideways" about a dozen times each-- the fact that most screw tapes were bespoke mixes for local buyers shows you the love that houston's southside had for e-40 (and b-legit and mac mall and pac and c-bo). i still get goosebumps off "it's all bad" after hearing it by chance on codine fien pressed in between a run of west coast classics ("ghetto serenade," wc and maad circle, "what's my name," eazy e, "it's all bad," e-40, and closed out with "groovin on a sunday," c-bo). the voice on that is amazing, the way he flows running against the beat running with it, rising to a warble and sinking down into a suspicious crouch, slipping into the voice of the boys on the block and back into his veteran slang.
e-40 from '95 to '02, he's pushed that voice, that style way into the red zone of not feeling this at all. the vision of rap i like as presented on this thread just gets grimmer and crazier-- let's add it up and throw in a few extras: must be grimly realist, must not contain any indulgence in artistic flourish for its own sake, and i'll always prize lyrics over vocal performance. but forget about that for a minute. some of my favorite rappers actually get by on style alone, a great voice. but e-40 doesn't do it for me. the compressed tightness of his voice... it doesn't appeal to me... it doesn't seem to work for lots of things that he attempts... i can't listen to that voice for more than three tracks in a row.
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 09:24 (ten years ago) link
i really like suga free when he pops up on this, though!
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 09:25 (ten years ago) link
best tracks:"the slap""til the dawn" ft suga free"mustard and mayonnaise"
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 09:27 (ten years ago) link
coming in isolation, between palate cleansers, those three tracks are amazing.esp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RBYyDu68x0
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link
when e-40 hits something he's good at, like that crazy slang shit on a beat made of fox 40s whistles and marching bands, digital riffs... perfect, had it on repeat for ten minutes. but a lot of time, it just doesn't work for me.
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 09:33 (ten years ago) link
again, though, it's not really fair because my opinion of e-40 has been set in stone for a decade.
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 09:36 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnfNdFHBuPc
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 09:38 (ten years ago) link
Since Freestyle Fellowship is out and the gangster canon has been well rep'd, might I suggest some contemporary Seattle slaps:
Nacho Picasso 'Exalted'
― viacom dios, Thursday, 11 July 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link
must be grimly realist
this is so limiting
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
partly because it implies a very specific kind of "realism"