cf Death or Glory imo. expect it'll tank in this poll due to antirockist bias but to my ear it's nothing short of a complete musical and spiritual triumph and kinda encapsulates everything i love about the band.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 9 July 2013
I stand by my post in the voting thread.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
I held off on using that iconic picture just for that song.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
it's a great match
as good a place as any to mention that among its many virtues: crack-pate backing vox worthy of keith richards
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
Rundown so far...
60. Hate and War - 96 pts - 6 votes58. (TIE) Car Jamming - 104 pts - 7 votes58. (TIE) Pressure Drop - 104 pts - 10 votes57.Ghetto Defendant - 106 pts - 10 votes56. Up In Heaven (Not Only Here) - 111 pts - 10 votes55. Julie's Been Working for the Drug Squad - 113 pts - 11 votes54. Jail Guitar Doors - 122 pts - 11 votes53. Capital Radio - 124 pts - 7 votes52. Remote Control - 126 pts - 9 votes51. Gates of the West - 127 pts - 6 votes - 1 #150. 1977 - 131 pts - 10 votes48. (TIE) Groovy Times - 136 pts - 8 votes48. (TIE) Jimmy Jazz - 136 points - 8 votes47. Garageland - 138 pts - 9 votes46. Wrong 'Em Boyo - 140 pts - 10 votes45. Charlie Don't Surf - 142 pts - 12 votes44. What's My Name - 145 pts - 10 votes43. This is England - 148 pts - 10 votes43. The Prisoner - 151 pts - 8 votes41. Hitsville U.K. - 157 pts - 12 votes
40. The Street Parade - 162 pts - 8 votes - 1 #139. The Right Profile - 168 pts - 8 votes - 2 #138. Lose This Skin - 173 pts - 9 votes - 1 #137. Washington Bullets - 174 pts - 10 votes36. Brand New Cadillac - 190 pts - 8 votes35. London's Burning - 220 pts - 14 votes34. I'm Not Down - 226 pts - 15 votes33. Clash City Rockers - 277 pts - 18 votes32. The Card Cheat - 278 pts - 15 votes - 1 #131. Should I Stay or Should I Go - 280 pts - 19 votes30. The Call Up - 290 pts - 19 votes29. Tommy Gun - 291 pts - 17 votes - 2 #128. Hateful - 298 pts - 15 votes27. Stay Free - 299 pts - 17 votes - 1 #126. Know Your Rights - 310 pts - 19 votes25. Somebody Got Murdered - 325 pts - 24 votes24. Armagideon Time/Justice Tonight/Kick It Over - 339 pts - 17 votes - 3 #123. Death or Glory - 356 pts - 24 votes - 1 #122. I'm So Bored with the U.S.A. - 369 pts - 19 votes - 1 #121. Police and Thieves - 396 pts - 23 votes - 1 #1
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
You know, with all the Clash lyrics Joe wrote, the only 'romantic' line he had was the mention of 'my sweet Gabriella' (his rl girlfriend) in 'Junco Partner'
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
That smart girl wouldn't sign her name
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
SMASH THE ROMANTIC TYRANTS
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
Safe European Home and Tommy Gun were my #1 and #2. Also bummed to see Tommy Gun place so low.
P.S. Here's Sleater-Kinney covering it. Way better than you'd think for a one-off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfZ7w5PqWsI
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
joe didn't write junco partner
― fit and working again, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
Not The Slits, then?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
xpost I know, but there are loads of versions where you can add whatever you like to it. As did Joe...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
Nah, that was a joke. I thought it'd be funny to make it impossible to find.
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link
the "I would have pawned my sweet..." line is in james wayne's 1951 version.
― fit and working again, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link
"Gabriella" being the key ..
Anyways...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link
my 6, 9 and 10 have come up so far - hateful, card cheat and call up. i am officially concerned about 1 of the rest of my top 10.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link
Realised I had the whole of side 1 of rope in my 30
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:15 (ten years ago) link
Is there a definitive Clash bio, or even a good one? I think I have the first edition of the Marcus Gray, but I've yet to read it.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link
I kinda like that there isn't one - all just different competing stories. Even VInce White's book is good as long as you're thumbing through it in a store (I wouldn't suggest buying it)
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:51 (ten years ago) link
Vince White's book is more an unflinching portrayal of alcoholism than a Clash biography as such. It's kinda great though.
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
Just checking this out for the first time. I guess we're experiencing a shortage of gimmick hungry yobs digging gold from rock n roll, because Death Or Glory is far, far too low.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link
"I'm So Bored" is the 2nd of my top 5 to show up (way too low). I love the punchy syncopated rhythm guitar on the verses, and the blare and roar of the chorus. Maybe my favorite punk song (or at least part of a foursome with "God Save the Queen," "Blitzkrieg Bop" and "Oh Bondage Up Yours").
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 03:04 (ten years ago) link
yeah it has that classic punk sneer and bop
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 03:06 (ten years ago) link
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, July 16, 2013
hey at least someone had the foresight to give it a #1 vote
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link
Death Or Glory was my 2. I can't say my #1 cause it hasn't come up yet, but it's a lock for the top 5 and is just so immense there was no way I couldn't put it at the top.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link
i didn't vote, so not complaining or anything, just noticing:
astonished and very very pleased that sandinista was #2 album. i always thought that album divided fans in a big way. astonished and a touch saddened that the debut album wasn't #1, but maybe the two versions split too many votes?
and i'm crying here over the terribly low ranking of the great mick moment "stay free."
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 04:49 (ten years ago) link
as I noted in voting thread, written by Joe for Mick
so bummed this poll didn't happen next year
(but great to see fcc popping up for it!)
― eau de feet (sic), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link
Xpost -- had no idea that was Pearl Jam until the end. I joined a friend's band onstage to cover it once. Great song and in my top 5. The echo on Mock's guitar there (and throughout combat rock) is a thing of beauty.
Surprise Armagideoj Time was not top ten. You know it would have made Joe's top ten!
― Marcus / Xgau - Whose Century? (broom air), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 06:24 (ten years ago) link
anyone read this?
https://d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net/books/1312046823l/804111.jpg
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 06:25 (ten years ago) link
Mick's (no disrespect meant)
Armagideon. Damn iPad. Stupid capital P autocorrect
― Marcus / Xgau - Whose Century? (broom air), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 06:26 (ten years ago) link
Riot of Our Own is a must-read, though I think only covers a couple of years.
Don Letts' documentary was surprisingly disappointing. He directed the punk and the dance/hip hop episodes of the WGBH history of rock and roll and they are really worth seeking out. But the Clash doc imo is a bit too safe.
― Marcus / Xgau - Whose Century? (broom air), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 06:29 (ten years ago) link
That book is great 'fun', and it had a lot to do with 'Return of the last gang in town' being much better. (Sorry, Josh)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 06:40 (ten years ago) link
I think it's aged remarkably well. It's taken decades for me to come around on it, but whenever a track from it comes up on shuffle I end up listening to the rest of the album from that point. I wish more bands could be as confidently shambling as the Clash. I guess Exile On Main St. was an outlier album for a long-time too.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 08:53 (ten years ago) link
The lyrics are the big weak point for me. It sounds like it was put together in a hurry, which can be carried by a good groove and a great producer, but you can't paper over lyrics or tunes.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 08:55 (ten years ago) link
I think the lyrics are amazing.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 09:07 (ten years ago) link
Listening to it a lot over the past few weeks that's what has really stood out for me.
I'm kind of amazed by how excited I am about this poll. You all voted White Man #1 too, right?
― campreverb, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 11:51 (ten years ago) link
shh.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 12:39 (ten years ago) link
If both versions of the self-titled album were counted together, that'd be #1 and knock everything down a spot, remember (assuming that there weren't a ton of people who voted for both)
― king of steens (some dude), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 12:46 (ten years ago) link
I did not vote "White Man" #1, but I could have, and if it was today, I might have!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
I didn't either, but I would be perfectly happy with it as a poll winner.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
Outside the top 5 would be a travesty.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
I can't claim to be unbiased (Clash fan and all), but I love the Letts documentary to pieces. It's got their warmest interviews, touches on everything I would, and has the momentum of their music. Julien Temple's Strummer doc is a perfect compliment. I saw that another doc screened in Minneapolis last year, but anything non-ironically titled the Rise and Fall of anything feels like bad news.
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
Bearing in my mind my poor track record of predicting poll results I'm going to say White Man #1, Train in Vain #2 and Guns of Brixton #3. A nice Joe/Mick/Paul Top 3.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link
My guess would be "Complete Control," but I'm off on a lot of these too.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link
Complete Control was my #1, iirc. Didn't vote Train. Or Guns, I don't think!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
We're taking it to the top, then.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
My 100% track record of wrong predictions looks safe.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
All three of predicted top 3 are in my top 10, but Complete Control is my #1. TO THE TOP!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
*DL's predicted top 3