That's a weird ass top ten.
― Moka, Thursday, 18 July 2013 06:41 (ten years ago) link
I'm So Bored with the USAComplete Control(White Man) In Hammersmith PalaisStraight to HellLost in the SupermarketPolice & ThievesJimmy JazzRock the CasbahShould I Stay or Should I GoRudie Can't FailWhite RiotLondon's BurningRemote ControlSpanish BombsI Fought the LawClash City RockersHatefulDeath or GloryClampdownGaragelandJanie JonesThe Card CheatThe Magnificent SevenSafe European HomeSomebody Got MurderedJunco Partner1977Lose This SkinPressure DropGuns of Brixton
― Euler, Thursday, 18 July 2013 07:42 (ten years ago) link
My ballot. On my old cassette "copy" (from the vinyl) of Sandinista, I sequenced Maria Gallagher becoming tired of singing straight into the intro of "Police On My Back", hence the ordering below. So I'm quietly satisfied that the official results also (sort of) back this up.
01. Armagideon Time02. Complete Control 03. Police on My Back04. The Guns of Brixton (Sandinista! version)05. This Is Radio Clash06. I Fought the Law07. Bankrobber08. Capital Radio 09. London Calling10. Janie Jones
11. White Riot 12. Junco Partner / Version Pardner13. (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais14. Junkie Slip15. Somebody Got Murdered16. The Call Up17. Police & Thieves18. The Magnificent Seven19. Rock the Casbah20. 1977
21. Train in Vain22. Charlie Don't Surf23. Straight To Hell24. Corner Soul25. Look Here26. London's Burning 27. Career Opportunities (Sandinista! version)28. I'm So Bored with the USA29. Ivan Meets G.I. Joe30. Hitsville U.K.
― Jeff W, Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:29 (ten years ago) link
That must be the least London Calling ballot in this thing
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link
Never heard it, is why.
― Jeff W, Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:34 (ten years ago) link
it's alright
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:42 (ten years ago) link
Big thanks for this, this poll has meant I've spent the last 2 weeks with the Clash, which is great.
since everyone's posting their lists, I'll jump in-I guess I love their covers, I have 3 in my top 10. I guess the surprise for me is all the antipathy towards 'Should I Stay', though I think for me and other voters Combat Rock has aged well. A lot of talk about that album, but I remember pretty clearly at the time it was no secret that it was probably the last Clash album, and probably viewed more as a last gasp than a sell-out. Anyway, my top 10.
1 (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais 2 Train in Vain (Stand by Me)3 I Fought the Law 4 Brand New Cadillac5 Police & Thieves 6 Should I Stay or Should I Go 7 Rudie Can't Fail 8 London Calling 9 Straight to Hell 10 Complete Control
― campreverb, Thursday, 18 July 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link
My ballot:
ClampdownComplete ControlI Fought The LawClash City RockersI'm So Bored With The U.S.A.This Is Radio Clash(White Man) In Hammersmith PalaisBrand New CadillacRudie Can't FailWhite Riot (single/US debut version)London CallingWashington BulletsThe Magnificent SevenTrain In VainCareer OpportunitiesSpanish Bombs1977Jail Guitar DoorsLightning Strikes (Not Once But Twice)Straight To HellLost In The SupermarketSafe European HomeRock The CasbahI'm Not DownSomebody Got MurderedKnow Your RightsKingston AdviceThe Call UpAtom TanUp In Heaven (Not Only Here)
top live:
1. Clampdown (official video...can't find info on where/when it was filmed, though)2. I'm So Bored With The U.S.A. (Chicago, 9/14/79)3. Capital Radio (From Here To Eternity)4. London's Burning (fhte)5. Train In Vain (fhte)
albums:
1. The Clash (US)2. London Calling3. Sandinista!4. Combat Rock5. Give 'Em Enough Rope
Thanks for doing this, Gukbe! Great rollout!
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 July 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
hey gukbe, no rush obviously, but i hope you are still intending to post the full list of trax and votes. thx!
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 19 July 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
I'm glad there was so much Topper appreciation in the pre- and poll discussion. Sort of a cliche to say he's underrated, and maybe that's not even true anymore. But these days when I listen to the Clash (at least, to anything from the Topper era), I find myself listening to the drums as much as anything.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 19 July 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
Topper's beats on the Bonds version of Street Parade at the top of the thread were really doing it for me this morning
― bendy, Friday, 19 July 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link
I was listening to Combat Rock this morning and holy fuck, he came up with some bizarre/brilliant parts ("Red Angel Dragnet," "Straight To Hell").
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 19 July 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, July 19, 2013 9:30 AM (1 week ago)
^^^
― schlock corridor (WilliamC), Friday, 26 July 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
^^^^^
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 11:06 (ten years ago) link
BBC's Front Row, half-hour special:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b037vb11
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 10 August 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
Consider this a bump for the full list of trax and votes and to ask if any of you are buying the super overpriced Sound System box. I've been listening to the remasters and they did an amazing job. But I don't have $200. I am gonna plonk down for the 5 album set, but it's missing all the crucial singles including our poll winner. Argh. Wish they would have included the single A-Sides at least in that lower end box but no such luck.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 03:49 (ten years ago) link
I'm still annoyed there's no proper live album from the classic lineup. It's like they included those 3 songs from the Lyceum show just to taunt me.
As for the remasters themselves, I only listened to self-titled and the Cost of Living EP. Self-titled was hugely improved. Harder to spot any changes on Cost of Living.
― kaleb, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 04:04 (ten years ago) link
On headphones the details pop like a motherfucker. I checked versus the 90s remasters and it's pretty easy to hear the improvement all through the catalog.
I agree on the live stuff. This quote Mick gave Rolling Stone breaks my heart:
There's not a ton of live music on this set. Are you thinking about releasing more Clash concerts in the future?Not really. Years ago, before even the Internet, there were places where you could send off blank tapes and get nearly every concert. This fantastic exchange was going on. They wouldn't even charge you money. I know fans want to get their hands on everything, but it's already out there. So there's no plans to release any concerts now. I'm not even thinking about any more Clash releases. This is it for me, and I say that with an exclamation mark.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 04:08 (ten years ago) link
That's such a PR circuit quote that I don't lend it much credibility.
― kaleb, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 04:17 (ten years ago) link
Hmmmm. I believe it.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 08:11 (ten years ago) link
So, the 'albums only' set has LC and S as 2 and 3 cd sets respectively
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 08:13 (ten years ago) link
.. And you can get it for £30 or thereabouts.
So, 3cds of rarities, a DVD, and a whole bunch of silly will cost you an additional £70 up.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 08:15 (ten years ago) link
(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais - 999 37 3Complete Control - 924 34 7Straight to Hell - 687 34 Janie Jones - 662 23 Safe European Home - 658 29 3Train in Vain - 568 27 2Rudie Can't Fail - 564 28 2The Magnificent Seven - 548 28 1Police on My Back - 541 26 1Guns of Brixton - 540 24 1I Fought the Law - 522 23 Clampdown - 521 25 1White Riot - 494 29 London Calling - 477 27 2Spanish Bombs - 476 26 Lost in the Supermarket - 465 25 This is Radio Clash - 463 23 1Rock the Casbah - 441 25 Career Opportunities - 406 26 Bankrobber - 399 21 1Police & Thieves - 396 23 1I'm So Bored with the USA - 369 19 1Death or Glory - 356 24 1Armagideon Time - (2 for Justice Tonight/36) 339 17 3Somebody Got Murdered - 325 24 Know Your Rights - 310 19 Stay Free - 299 17 1Hateful - 298 15 Tommy Gun - 291 17 2The Call Up - 290 19 Should I Stay or Should I Go - 280 19 The Card Cheat - 278 15 1Clash City Rockers - 277 18 I'm Not Down - 226 15 London's Burning - 220 14 Brand New Cadillac - 190 8 Washington Bullets - 174 10 Lose this Skin - 173 9 1The Right Profile - 168 8 2The Street Parade - 162 8 1Hitsville UK - 157 12 The Prisoner - 151 8 This is England - 148 10 What's My Name - 145 10 Charlie Don't Surf - 142 12 Wrong 'Em Boyo - 140 10 Garageland - 138 9 Jimmy Jazz - 136 8 Groovy Times - 136 8 1977 - 131 10 Gates of the West - 127 6 1Remote Control - 126 9 Capital Radio - (one = 50 two= 74) 124 7 Jail Guitar Doors - 122 11 Julie's Been Working for the Drug Squad - 113 11 Up in Heaven (Not Only Here) - 111 10 Ghetto Defendant - 106 10 Pressure Drop - 104 10 Car Jamming - 104 7 Hate and War - 96 6 The City of the Dead - 94 8 Rebel Waltz - 92 6 English Civil War - 90 5 All the Young Punks - 88 6 Broadway - 87 6 1Revolution Rock - 82 2 Cheapskates - 81 6 Sean Flynn - 78 5 One More Time - 76 6 Four Horsemen - 74 6 Last Gang in Town - 71 4 Sound of Sinners - 70 6 The Equaliser - 69 4 Ivan Meets GI Joe - 64 5 Koka Kola - 61 5 Junco Partner - 61 6 The Leader - 59 3 Corner Soul - 58 5 The Cool Out - 53 3 1Something About England - 53 6 Lightning Strikes (Not Once but Twice) - 48 6Inoculated City - 48 3Deny - 44 3Protex Blue - 35 4The Crooked Beat - 34 2Death is a Star - 33 3Guns on the Roof - 32 3Overpowered by Funk - 30 4Guns of Brixton (Sandanista) - 30 1Lover's Rock - 29 3Cool Confusion - 28 1Atom Tan - 27 3Let's Go Crazy - 26 3Version City - 25 1Midnight Log - 25 1In the Pouring Rain - 24 2Mensforth Hill - 22 1First Night Back in London - 22 1Junkie Slip - 20 2Mustapha Dance - 18 1Midnight to Stevens - 15 1Career Opportunities (Sandanista) = 12 2Long Time Jerk - 9 2Listen - 8 1We are the Clash - 7 1Look Here - 7 1The Magnificent Dance - 5 1Kingston Advice - 5 1How Can I Understand the Flies? - 5 148 Hours - 5 1Time is Tight - 3 1Shepherd's Delight - 2 1Kill Time - 2 1Drug-Stabbing Time - 2 1
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:48 (ten years ago) link
apologies for the ugly formatting. first number is points, second number of votes, and if there's a third, that's the number of #1s.
thx!
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 10:21 (ten years ago) link
Thanks sir!
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
Thanks, gukbe! Cool to see at least one vote for "Mensforth Hill."
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for the totals!
On the remasters, did they at least fix the screw-up at the beginning of "Koka Cola" from the last round of reissues? I'm one of those oddballs who thinks the circa-'99 remaster of London Calling was bad all around--the first try was much closer to the record.
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
I've read that the bell no longer sounds all goofy (as it did on the "legacy edition"), and the elevator sound is back.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link
Yes. It's fixed.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
I wanna note that this poll inspired me to finally pick up a vinyl copy of Give 'Em Enough Rope to replace the one I traded in maybe 25 years ago. Much better than I remembered!
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
Tell you what, I'd forgotten how great the 'Capital Radio' remake is!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 05:48 (ten years ago) link
There's a documentary that was produced to coincide with the box set. Not revelatory so far, but nice to see the guys together:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16-WktpcHpI
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
Mick and Paul are on reddit answering some questions. Some of these redditors make some lame questions so if you have an actual Clash fan question you want answered here you go:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1msew6/this_is_mick_and_paul_from_the_clash_ask_us/
― Moka, Friday, 20 September 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
For the holidays, a two-hour This Is Radio Clash program, with bizarre Bernie Rhodes cameos in Chipmunks speed.http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03mjl04
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 26 December 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
I still can't stand a certain minor chart hit.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 11:33 (six years ago) link
if memory serves it was a major chart hit over here and yeah it is crushingly dull
― another day another dolour (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link
Phony Clashmania has bitten the dust!.
― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 10:40 (five years ago) link
Nice work! But it's Safe European Home, not Homes
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 12:53 (five years ago) link
it's the Sumner-ite in me.
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 13:06 (five years ago) link
Ha!
Where would you put Black Market Clash? That was a big one for me, the record (or more accurately, $5.98 cassette) that made me an obsessive. They padded it out for the CD era as Super Black Market Clash, which inexplicably replaced the original Bankrobber with a dub version that goes on twice as long, but it half as good.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link
just scanned through the results thread and I have no idea what I would've picked for #1 (this poll pre-dated my ILM posting by a few months--pretty sure I registered to ILM so I could vote in the Elvis Costello poll)--there were at least 12 candidates just looking at the songs that made the list
― nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:03 (five years ago) link
inexplicably replaced the original Bankrobber with a dub version that goes on twice as long, but it half as good.
it's explicable! and also the original Black Market Clash edited Bankrobber and Robber Dub together, so the Super version is the one that's half as long.
― Ah, the minty egg bits (sic), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
I bought the triple 10" version, that's a different thing!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link
how so? https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-Black-Market-Clash/release/103078 vs https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-Black-Market-Clash/release/2987143
― Stab my hinge, get hit (sic), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:10 (five years ago) link
I had never seen that before. It adds the tracks that were left off the US debut.
https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-Super-Black-Market-Clash/release/420020
― Freddy "Boom Boom" QAnon (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link
Yes, side one is those tracks, plus "Listen" without the interview, which are all from those sessions.
Two = b-side tracks from "give them enough rope" era
three = the "Cost of Living" e.p. without "I fought the law" and the "ad" but with "Time Is Tight" instead.
four = Armagideon Time 12" dubs and Bankrobber dub
five = Mostly "Combat Rock" b-sides along with "Cool Out"
Six = Whatever's left: Casbah Dub / Mag7 dub / "This Is Radio Clash" (the a-side?)
So, basically pick yr side, it's like having 6 ep's
― Mark G, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
oh derp, I missed "triple"
― Stab my hinge, get hit (sic), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link