Techno/house bobbins, 2009

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this is actually a december 2008 bobbin but i just got a vinyl copy of liebe detail 25 - juno 6 "molto in basso" is easily one of the best techno tracks of recent times. one of those perfect replenishing after-hours beats. incredible.

rio (r1o natsume), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Workshop 07 sounding niiiiice.

matt2, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought KDJ's set was enjoyable but not at all what I expected. His set was more what I would expect from a random house party DJ, both in style and substance. That said the choices were pretty dead on and people were having a great time. I also didn't hear him drop a single house track, but I only stayed for a while because my boyfriend was exhausted (also we showed up at 10:45 to get in free, ended up meeting Kenny himself which was awesome; what a sweet guy). Did it ever get housier?

littlewhiteearbuds, Thursday, 19 February 2009 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Am I the only one who's disappointed with Det.riot EP?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 19 February 2009 05:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Workshop 07 sounding niiiiice.

been trying to find this on slsk. i may actually break down and PAY FOR MP3S though.

dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 19 February 2009 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

det.riots a mixed bag, couple of great tracks but a lot of silly blaxploitation filler. Could really have just been half the length. But, par for the course really.

straightola, Thursday, 19 February 2009 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link

also, how are Villalobos and Ame's sets NOT self-indulgent? an honest question-- to me, Villalobos is going nowhere doing the same fucking thing he's been doing, and Ame rock their own shit CONSTANTLY in their sets.

I thought Villalobos was the one who hopped on NONSENSE TRENDS AND BULLSHIT rather than doing the same thing over and over? I mean isn't doing the same fucking thing he's been doing what everyone praises KDJ etc for?

I mean you knew someone would bite on this table...

Local Garda, Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:52 (fifteen years ago) link

you know...not that comparing these acts at all is anything other than pulping the dead horse's liquified body further but couldn't resist

Local Garda, Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link

it's hard to see det.riot as an outright disappointment in the context of moodymann's recent output, definitely stronger than the preceding few 12"s. still not one of his stronger releases but at least has a couple of strong tracks and an amusing concept/presentation.

resolved, Thursday, 19 February 2009 13:05 (fifteen years ago) link

and KDJ as "random house party DJ" -- i thought it was well-known this was his style. he's not much of a DJ, freely admits it himself. i doubt it got much housier.

resolved, Thursday, 19 February 2009 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, i said strong a lot there... brain rot.

resolved, Thursday, 19 February 2009 13:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i put the det.riot poster on my kitchen cupboard!

resident advice whore (haitch), Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

This Tokyo Black Star album is great so far.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

LWE-- it got much housier. i was there until about an hour before the end. my flight back to the west coast was HELL on sunday, but worth it.

ron4n-- whatever, i think it comes down to the fact that KDJ may be doing the same thing, but i like what he's doing. villalobos hasn't really excited me since....uh.....maybe Africolaps or Dummolator. tho admittedly, vasco has its moments-- just not my bag.

the table is the table, Thursday, 19 February 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Workshop 07 sounding niiiiice.

been trying to find this on slsk. i may actually break down and PAY FOR MP3S though.

I guess I should say that really it's the B-side that does it for me. The production on the A-side is nice, but it uses that most tired of tricks and has a voice repeating (yes that's right) "Detroit" for the length of the track. Although honestly I'm not sure what is more tired now, actually doing that or pointing out the tiredness of doing that. Anyway, the track itself is nice enough.

The B-side contains two bombs, though. Actually, getting rid of the A and giving each of the B tracks a side a piece would've made an exceptional record. I'm not complaining, though. Hear for yourself here: http://extramusicnew.blogspot.com/2009/02/even-tuell-workshop-07-workshop007.html

Overall I haven't been as crazy over the Workshop releases as many have, but 06 and 07 have been great.

matt2, Thursday, 19 February 2009 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i actually found that sucker in the blogosphere, it is indeed pretty good. despite "detroit." i need to check out 06, i think the only other ones i've heard are the first one and kassem mosse (which i really dig).

DONKEY CANCER in action (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 20 February 2009 04:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I really wish that "Detrot" sample weren't in there. I actually like the *sound* of it and can understand why it was left in; there's a weird apple-bite to the way its spoken, a strange cadence when it's repeated over and over. actually in a sense i guess you could say that's what's interesting about the use of the word "Detroit," it just sucks the meaning out of it and renders it a nonsense mantra, which could actually be a rather clever critique of the persistent Detroit/Chicago hagiography of German house/techno. But I doubt that was necessarily the intention. Or who knows?

pshrbrn, Friday, 20 February 2009 08:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, I like the articulation of the D word too - sounds like a British accent. But really, what's the point. The producer is trying to promote his Detroit credentials?

sam500, Friday, 20 February 2009 08:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Put your hands up for the D word.

The Reverend, Friday, 20 February 2009 09:02 (fifteen years ago) link

6 hour set from the Jerome Derradji and Moodymann Valentine's Day thing at Smartbar here: http://www.fullbozman.com/moodymann-and-jerome-derradji-live-at-smartbar-chicago-2009-02-14

matt2, Monday, 23 February 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Damn, the mix was taken down at the behest of... Smart Bar? Does the club have any ownership of the sets performed there? I would think that would be up to the artists.

littlewhiteearbuds, Thursday, 26 February 2009 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Does anyone know if Function's "Ghost Echoes" has been released? I can't find it on Discogs or even Google.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link

the black dog do it again for me in '09.
new track, 0093 [Berlin Mix], is just brilliant.
the thump and the bleep.

mark e, Thursday, 26 February 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

wasn't sure as to the calling of the mix the berlin mix, as i was concerned that the band were surfing on the berlin zeitgeist and being a little corney (that or it was some group injoke), but apparently, it's been called that because the band mixed it in Schönefeld airport on their laptops across a wireless connection.

mark e, Thursday, 26 February 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Is it on Soma?

littlewhiteearbuds, Friday, 27 February 2009 01:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Is it on Soma?

yes it is : soma 263.

mark e, Friday, 27 February 2009 08:31 (fifteen years ago) link

i would like to hear the new ra.h 12"

DONKEY CANCER in action (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 27 February 2009 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link

how's the new josh wink?

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 27 February 2009 09:21 (fifteen years ago) link

im thinking 'zeitgeisty'

straightola, Friday, 27 February 2009 10:07 (fifteen years ago) link

not really the sense i'm getting ... i mean, it's slow like some recent radioslave stuff, and tribal like some current european "deep" stuff, but it doesn't sound trendy

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 27 February 2009 10:28 (fifteen years ago) link

it sounds different from most stuff i've heard lately, though not terribly distinctive.

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 27 February 2009 10:28 (fifteen years ago) link

isnt slow and seep as zeitgeisty as it gets? my housemate picked it up, i intend to not go to bed all weekend so a lot of techno catch ups are on the cards

straightola, Friday, 27 February 2009 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i just seem to have some kind of inexplicable vendetta against josh wink, i enjoy his music and hes a good dj. I think its his hair in the 90s

straightola, Friday, 27 February 2009 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link

http://electronic-sets.com/imagenes/josh-wink.jpg

straightola, Friday, 27 February 2009 10:45 (fifteen years ago) link

i have exactly the same vendetta!

resolved, Friday, 27 February 2009 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

sounds like what loco dice might put out if he were on rekids, or something like that

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 27 February 2009 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't mind Wink so much anymore but I can remember having a similar vendetta, just because he just seemed so terminally popular in Ireland. Also he has that everlasting career thing without really being mad interesting or iconic or anything else really.

I heard the RA podcast is great tho.

Local Garda, Friday, 27 February 2009 11:20 (fifteen years ago) link

the Josh Wink podcast isn't particulary good imo, however this week's Thomas Brinkmann one is great.

mmmm, Friday, 27 February 2009 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i was really surprised when i saw him in belfast in about 2001, i was dragged there and then he was dropping tunes like 4heros mix of URs amazon, and kept it deep and quite synopated at times, unbelievable. thinking about that has just made me realise the similarity of that tune and EQD002, trippy arpeggios and chuggy beats.

straightola, Friday, 27 February 2009 11:55 (fifteen years ago) link

should really post in bobbins of the past but check the similarity. goosebumps listening to it again.

straightola, Friday, 27 February 2009 11:59 (fifteen years ago) link

uh, are you talking about wink or brinkmann??

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 27 February 2009 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

wink of course! i doubt brinkmann would be playing in belfast in 01! See my upthread hair-cuss

straightola, Friday, 27 February 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link

"i just seem to have some kind of inexplicable vendetta against josh wink, i enjoy his music and hes a good dj. I think its his hair in the 90s

― straightola"

my vendetta against josh wink is quite explicable, it's because he sucks. playing good records every now and then does not a good deejay make. all his production is trash.

pipecock, Friday, 27 February 2009 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/148993-me-fabric-42 >>> Tim F gave Fabric 42 6.9!!

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 28 February 2009 09:34 (fifteen years ago) link

not sure what that means but IMO tim f is fucking king of the game and you can't fuck with his reviews

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 28 February 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

btw i listened to that disc approx 6.9 times before it got boring.

i only ever drag it out to listen to the marcel dettman remix

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 28 February 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

the vibe starts off anxious, ends up muscular, and on the way somehow bypasses "sexy" and "soulful" altogether.

true, though perhaps not a negative for the "new techno" LWE / RA crowd

Fabric 42 is just hard-edged enough to seem slightly ill-suited to any context other than the dancefloor itself

actually it's not bad for cleaning the house or a long drive on the freeway (does tim F have a car?)

but the far superior "Raw Structure" by Edward (seething old school house propping up an excoriating slam poetry vocal) shares the explosive furrow-browed intensity of its blueprint, Green Velvet's "Preacher Man".

ha ha i would NOT compare this favorably to "preacher man" (nor would i compare %99.99.99.99 percent of anything favorably to that track) (can you catch the techno reference there)

that the eventual emergence of the dominant organ riff on STL's track seems vaguely disappointing.

okay, one bum sentence in a great review: WHY?

The duo spend much of the second half of the mix alluding to their taste for all things "Wild Pitch"-- a weakness they share with Tiefscwharz, who have plotted a similar stylistic trajectory from lush prettiness to riotous intensity.

ok and that's the basic point of tim's mini-essay. why the greyscale intro and insistence on vaguely jan jelinek-ish dub tools when they could just wild pitch it up all the way through. here's where i basically agree with tim on his review: we want a little art and a little freedom, ame's fabric 42 is too much art and not enough freedom.

i say, fair review and well called. (though i bet if it were a 7.2 instead of a 6.9 they'd push a lot more units w/ the indie fencepost crowd!)

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 28 February 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly though fuck a 10 point scale

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 28 February 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

not sure what that means but IMO tim f is fucking king of the game and you can't fuck with his reviews

― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I mean it's disappointing to me that he gave it that score because the album is good and more importantly it'd make the indie kids hesitate to listen to it.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link

the last thing we need is more indie kids getting into dance music imo.

, Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link


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