comparing the evolution of 'classic rock' between uk and usa

Yeah, but that comparison doesn't seem sensible to me. Why not just compare Mojo to Rolling Stone or something?

that doesn't really work

Everything from The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan through to The Stone Roses, the Charlatans, Primal Scream, Ocean Colour Scene, Paul Weller, Oasis, Kasabian

that's a rough metric in the absence of an equivalent, codified version of 'classic rock'

I wonder how much Mojo and other rock criticism changed post-britpop. I remember Q as being more Phil Collins/Sting/U2 than Beatles/Stones etc
I sort of felt that UK "Rock" aka 60s inspired stuff went down an Oasis/Weller rabbit-hole, ironic considering Weller changed his style yet again moving away from bluesy rock and Noel G at least was open to "dance music". It's as if the public at least went with Liam (the charismatic knob end with the hair) instead of Noel (The actual music fan)

I have always wondered why the UK never had rock radio considering we gifted rock Kinks,Stones,Who,Troggs, Zep, Sabbath,Purple,The Faces/Rod Stewart, Cream/Yardbirds/Clapton and Frampton amongst others.

I would have liked some form of it say aged 16 or so but maybe rock radio would have ended up a bad thing? Would Americans have liked for it not to exist there either?

Does Australia have classic rock radio?
Our stations in the UK do tend to be oldies stations. Used to be 50s(elvis)/60s(beatles)/70s(Abba) dominated but in the mid 90s it kinda went 80s and now the early 90s are getting a look in. (are most commercial radio playlists syndicated now? I think they are) In the 80s on radio i dont recall much rock being played except for ballads by the rock bands.
Was it different in the 70s during rocks supposed hey day? Zep didnt release singles so did that mean they got no daytime radio play regularly?

yeah, we've got classic rock radio in Aus, but it's very pedestrian and predictable stuff. mind you, there's a station (WSFM i think?) i like to check into from time to time that seems to play predominantly 70s stuff and some smoother selections from the 80s that i can usually get behind. by and large i'm not strictly a radio person, even in the car.

What Stuff does AUS Classic Radio play that would differ from US Classic Rock radio? Apart from Cold Chisel/Barnesy!

maybe the question itt is why didn't american mnstrm rock music develop the same complete fixation on the past that happened in the uk, even though 'classic rock' radio became institutional so early in america

Eagle Rock!

not that there is a lack of ancestor worship in american rock music of the last 25 years but it's not as entrenched as in the uk

Do you mean there are no US rock bands that sound like the past and are reverent towards the 60s/70s like we have in the UK? I would be surprised if that were the case. Maybe the American equivalent is all the weekend dads in electric blues bands?

xp obviously

well, on certain stations you seem to get stuff like ELO, Supertramp, Cockney Rebel, Boston etc. there seems to be a bit of nostalgia for the 70s going on. i'm not sure if this trend exists in US radio. other stations here will throw in the odd Zep or Hendrix classic amidst a whole lot of contemporary shite. there are of course stations that play a pretty heavy quota of Aussie staples, covering everything from The Angels to Midnight Oil to The Church. i'm rarely in the mood for too much of that.

i would be curious about the business/regulatory end of FM radio's introduction in the uk

it mattered a fair bit for the rise of 'the rock station' in the us, no?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_broadcasting#United_Kingdom

commercial radio didn't hit the UK until 1973

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_broadcasting_in_the_UK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Local_Radio

I do wonder what UK radio would have been like if we went the canada/france route of a quota for homegrown bands? I fear this would have eventually led to all those nomark bands on the manchester swagger thread actually making it.

why didn't american mnstrm rock music develop the same complete fixation on the past that happened in the uk

it didn't?

I do wonder what UK radio would have been like if we went the canada/france route of a quota for homegrown bands?

The conditions that necessitated this in Canada in 1970 did not exist in the UK.

I mean, the point was that the industry was thoroughly dominated by the US and UK at that point.

maybe the question itt is why didn't american mnstrm rock music develop the same complete fixation on the past that happened in the uk, even though 'classic rock' radio became institutional so early in america

Have you ever heard of this band called the White Stripes.

the White Stripes didn't exactly sell millions of albums did they? Not in the way .... say Oasis did in the UK.

Three platinum albums, one gold in the US, if Wikipedia is to be believed.

what do working class 'blokes' in the uk listen to when they're on a job site or driving around in their lorries?

haha how would ilx know that? ;)

haha well i know about usa dudes* ('folks' - thanks obama) from riding around in their trucks and being on their job sites

* nb some of these dudes are not exactly dudes and if you put on anything other than the country station you're gonna git somethin done to you

and my thought is, for this demographic in the usa, there just is not anything else to listen to: that's the only thing, unless you want to listen to talk radio.

which makes it perplexing what their uk counterparts would listen to when there's NOTHING.

I keep forgetting that oasis was much, much, much more famous in the UK.

And I say that fully laying out there that oasis was really, really famous here in the USA.

* nb some of these dudes are not exactly dudes and if you put on anything other than the country station you're gonna git somethin done to you

Country dominance led to a mild culture shock when I moved to the Prairies. Regina is the first city I've lived in that doesn't have a real classic rock station!

For those of you outside the States, here's a peek at New York AOR circa 1987:

The 1987 WNEW-FM Top 1027 Songs of All Time Listener's Poll.

It's a poll, not a playlist, so there's a few things on here that almost never got airplay, and some things didn't make it even though they got lots of airplay.

something purely and declaratively reactionary

Despite its many flaws, I disagree that this describes the US classic rock format.

What? Of course it does. How does it not?

Well, I guess it is "reactionary" in the sense of wanting to preserve a version of the past. I guess I was thinking of "reactionary" in political terms. Also, I didn't entirely agree that it was defined by opposition to disco, (esp) new wave, and rap.

not that there is a lack of ancestor worship in american rock music of the last 25 years but it's not as entrenched as in the uk

Highly debatable. The UK has never come up with anything as ancestor worshipping as 'classic rock' radio.

X-post: I'm not getting the distinction you're making between uses of the word "reactionary." It seems to me that AOR/Classic Rock was designed from the beginning to become obsolete fairly quickly. It froze its aesthetic at a certain point in time (around 1973) and it was built to reject any kind of major disruption to the established tradition. Therefore no disco, no punk, no rap, etc. could possibly be absorbed into the format.

i don't recall any 'disco sux!!' promos by the late 80s/90s on my us station, but i also don't recall hearing 'stayin alive' (but: 'miss you')

they also had a fitful flirtation (special weekend show, 'young' dj etc) with alt-rock circa nirvana before someone locked that shit down (though i would not be surprised if they still played pearl jam, 'man in the box', etc)

and my thought is, for this demographic in the usa, there just is not anything else to listen to: that's the only thing, unless you want to listen to talk radio.

which makes it perplexing what their uk counterparts would listen to when there's NOTHING.

― j., Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is revelatory to me. i mean i don't ride in trucks with anyone, but the people i do ride in trucks with have satellite radio or a u2 cd they got in 2005. there just isn't anything in a format. format matters more than ever before rn.

"in a format" = "in a standard format." and i'm not in any way agreeable rn.

Country dominance led to a mild culture shock when I moved to the Prairies. Regina is the first city I've lived in that doesn't have a real classic rock station!

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, August 12, 2013 3:44 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i think that's true for most radio markets on the prairies. there's sometimes an AM oldies station that lacks the classic rock station posturing and plays a lot of motown and the beau brummels, but the only FM rock is usually generic rock station that also delves into classic rock station staples.

recent wolf 104.9 regina playlist excerpt:

Jimi Hendrix Hey Joe
City And Colour Thirst
Van Halen Panama
Finger Eleven Good Times
Headstones Long Way To Neverland
Sheepdogs Feeling Good
Led Zeppelin Kashmir (Live O2 Arena London)
Kiss Lick It Up
The Tragically Hip New Orleans Is Sinking
Soundgarden Halfway There

are nos. 2, 4, 5, 6, 9 canadian? because i've never heard of them except the tragically hip

i don't recall any 'disco sux!!' promos by the late 80s/90s on my us station, but i also don't recall hearing 'stayin alive' (but: 'miss you')

Disco was long gone by then. Rock stations never played "Stayin' Alive," even when it came out. They played "Miss You" because that was the Stones and you could sort of pretend it wasn't a disco song. The Bee Gees were considered AM radio stars - they were ignored by rock radio.

city and colour, canadian, oldman hat makeoutclub throwback kind of sad ballad indie rock

finger eleven, canadian, wikipedia: their breakout hit "one thing" was used by the wwe for a tribute video for chris benoit, canadian wrestler that murdered his family and killed himself with a bowflex

headstones, canadian, mid90s sorta punk serious rock, like, smoking cigarettes on stage and having knuckle tattoos, and their biggest hit was a cover of "tweeter and the monkey man," hugh dillon was in hardcore logo, a tv show called flashpoint and an episode of degrassi titled "when doves cry."

sheepdogs, canadian, definitely all have beards, wear vintage rock band t-shirts, corduroys and sound sort of like the guess who, as far as i know.

UK has plenty of classic rock stations, is this only a thing since digital or something?

flashpoint is good! i will assume then that the situation is kind of like if steve albini was a crime scene tech on a cbs police procedural xp

UK has plenty of classic rock stations, is this only a thing since digital or something?

yes they never existed here before digital.

what do working class 'blokes' in the uk listen to when they're on a job site or driving around in their lorries?

Talksport but, yeah, how would anyone on ILX know the answer to that question?

Finger Eleven had a big US hit with "Paralyser".

Are you in Regina, dylannn? My friend from Edmonton had the opposite culture shock when he moved to Toronto, which has no country station.

Josefa, I guess I don't exactly see the preservation of a rock tradition as being DEFINED by opposition to other styles, in the way that I don't think conservatories are defined by an opposition to jazz or pop. Also, the Ottawa station, which does identify as a classic rock station, does play plenty of modern rock, including e.g. Green Day.

"AOR doesn't need James Brown because Led Zeppelin did "The Crunge." AOR doesn't need Stevie Wonder because Led Zeppelin did "Trampled Under Foot." Led Zeppelin did everything, so it's just easier to play them all the time."

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in its time, AOR was also known, not unfairly, as apartheid oriented rock. alternative rock stations weren't any different or any better. lots of dance music by white british people and not a lot of dance music by anybody else. lots of beastie boys and not any hip-hop whatsoever by anybody else. the continuing racism of classic rock is self-perpetuating. the longer they don't play james brown or stevie wonder or p-funk or prince, the more they'll cement an audience that doesn't want to hear it.

― fact checking cuz, Monday, August 12, 2013 2:28 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is this true then that US classic rock stations were basically racist?

Yeah, we agree that it's not the reality of the actual situation.

I mean I guess the interesting question is what will the new nostalgia format look like in 30 years if such a thing still exists? Will it be kind of like "rhythmic top 40" and combine the more upbeat, dancey side of top 40 hits with some crossover hip hop and EDM stuff? Will it be geared to more of a female audience? Or will such a format be unnecessary since the top 40 charts will essentially sound the same?

Kerrang! Radio Playlist - W/C 29th July 2013

A List

Stereophonics – We Share The Same Sun
Airbourne – No One Fits Me Better (Than You)
Pearl Jam - Mind Your Manners
Fall Out Boy – Alone Together
Kings Of Leon - Supersoaker
BRMC – Hate The Taste
Stonesour – The Uncanny Valley

B List

Queens Of The Stone Age – I Sat By The Ocean
Stonesour – The Uncanny Valley
Arctic Monkeys – Do I Wanna Know
Nine Inch Nails – Came Back Haunted
Bullet For My Valentine – Breaking point
Volbeat – Lola Montez
Tonight Alive – The Ocean
Black Sabbath – End Of The Beginning
BRMC – Hate The Taste
Frank Turner – Losing Days - NEW
Avenged Sevenfold – Hail To The King

K! Nights

Forever The Sickest Kids – Chin Up Kid
The Hype Theory – Reverie
Blitz Kids – Run For Cover
Rival Sons - You Want To
Killswitch Engage – Always
Falling In Reverse – Rolling Stone
Turisas – For Your Own Good
Enter Shikari - Radiate
Panic! At The Disco – Miss Jackson - NEW
Letlive – Dreamer’s Disease- NEW
Zebrahead – Call Your Friends- NEW
We Came As Romans – Fade Away- NEW
Black Spiders – Balls- NEW
The Winery Dogs - Elevate- NEW
Drenge – Face Like A Skull- NEW

or http://www.planetrock.com/music/

A comprehensive list of bands that get played on Planet Rock
http://www.planetrock.com/music/artist-pages/

i assume a large majority of those are us classic rock radio staples? (plus british crap)

xxxpost well, I thought all those 80s nostalgia stations that play Cyndi Lauper and a-ha all the time were a soccer mom-targeted version of the classic rock format.

do women in general tend to stay more current with their musical tastes? or is that just because top 40 tends to be aimed at women?

it is?

well women buy more music than men so yeah

Top 40 def is in North America.

Here our top 40 is seen as music for teenage/pre-teen girls yet apparently the average age of a radio 1 listener is 32

I dunno if this is out of date or not but it doesnt even mention kerrang or planet rock
http://www.radiostations.co.uk/rock/

just found this
http://absoluteclassicrock.co.uk/

More rock, every hour, than any other radio station

On Absolute Classic Rock, you'll hear classics from Led Zeppelin, The Who, The Rolling Stones, Queen and more of Britain's finest, plus the best from the rest of the world.

Listen to Absolute Classic Rock online, on mobile, on digital radio, Sky and Virgin Media.
Haven't Heard It For Ages

Tell us who you are, what you're up to, what you want to hear and why. Then listen out for your track on Absolute Classic Rock!

- now playing Def Leppard - Hysteria

i want noodle vague to request Grendel ;)

oh it seems real radio has a classic rock station too
http://www.realradioxs.co.uk/

I found my dab radio the other day should I give these stations a shot and report back? Or will I just want to kill myself if I listen?

think i'll give http://www.arfm.co.uk a miss
http://www.arfm.co.uk/images/Songfromthesouth.png

Paul Chamberlain’s transition of musical interest from pop and glam rock began in 1973 when he heard the late Alan (Fluff) Freeman play Hendrix's 'Star Spangled Banner' one Saturday afternoon on the BBC.

At a impressionable 14 years of age, a flirtation with progressive rock followed, particularly with 'Emerson, Lake & Palmer', 'King Crimson' 'Pink Floyd' and 'Yes', until a year later a school friend played Paul 'Burn', the then new album from Deep Purple, and since then his thirst for rock has been unquenchable.

After leaving school, Paul worked in photographic retail by day, and frequented clubs, pubs, and larger venues in and around London by night, he even roadied briefly for a Leeds based all-female new wave band.

In the early eighties Paul chanced upon a North London radio station and, after being invited to look around, was duped into making a demo that was broadcast that weekend. He was invited to join the team and from the outset sought to bring more than the mainstream to his shows. Bands that were rarely heard on the UK shores like Molly Hatchet and Doc Holliday

A few months later, Paul joined an Essex based station and met Steve Price. A huge friendship and mutual crusade of rock music 'Southern' ensued. Paul also had his own project as well. Eventually, all good things came to an end.

By the early nineties, Paul was self employed as a photographer and moved to the Essex coast. When the work dried up, he was presented with the opportunity to work with disabled children.

In 2002, Paul moved back to the family home in Chingford and worked at a day care centre for adults and children with special needs and disabilities, experience which would prove invaluable closer to home just eight years later.

He has also studied -and is now qualified - as a publishing editor, which will be handy if Paul ever writes his memoirs.

Paul has spent some time in the southeast United States and has met many of the bands featured on his shows. Would he consider living there?

“As much as I love Florida, especially away from the theme parks, I would probably settle near Helen, Georgia at the base of The Appalachians. The State lines of Tennessee, North Carolina and even Alabama are within easy driving distance and the scenery is breathtaking, especially when you drive through the Great Smoky Mountains. It must appeal to the hillbilly in me!”

“I love travelling around away from the tourist hotspots. April and I called into a McDonalds somewhere in North Carolina once and our accent stopped the traffic. I guess they don’t get many Brits passing through. Even in a restaurant in St. Augustine, Florida locals were coming up to our table just to talk to us. Everyone is so welcoming over there.”

Paul’s Southern musical influences are classic bands like Blackfoot, The Allman Brothers Band, Outlaws, Molly Hatchet, .38 Special, Doc Holliday and Lynyrd Skynyrd plus new talent such as Preacher Stone and Hogjaw.

My husband always has Real Radio XS on in the car, and they are always playing Ace of Spades.

I turned on Kerrang radio for 10 mins earlier and it was no different to the worst of 6music or xfm. No rock to be found in the 3 songs I heard before i had to switch off.

Like, I think if people grew up hearing Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown, Van Halen, and Prince on the same station, it might seem as intuitive as hearing Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, the Police, Van Halen, and Don Henley on the same station seems.

Previous thread relevant to the aesthetic chasms already present in the CR format:

Classic Rock Radio Is Really Wierd When You Think About It

I never really thought of this radio format as being politically right-leaning, though.

fwiw that guy is otm about the great smoky mountains

Heard the single edit of "Whole Lotta Love" on the Jack station today. It's a much more boring song without the entire middle section! If there's a case to be made for the CR format, this has to be it.

marilyn manson will probably fill the next generation's campy gay metal role. i guess that's all "normal" is really. Working Joe's parents probably hated metal as much as Joe hates rap. The Circle of Life completes itself.

― matlewis, Friday, April 1, 2005 1:41 PM (8 years ago)

other thread dude otm

Are there any Classic Alt. Rock stations yet?

I dont mean modern rock stations stuck in the 90s I mean an actual Classic Alt. Rock format like Classic Rock?

Nakh do you listen to radio?

no

Forever The Sickest Kids – Chin Up Kid
The Hype Theory – Reverie
Blitz Kids – Run For Cover
Rival Sons - You Want To
Killswitch Engage – Always
Falling In Reverse – Rolling Stone
Turisas – For Your Own Good
Enter Shikari - Radiate
Panic! At The Disco – Miss Jackson - NEW
Letlive – Dreamer’s Disease- NEW
Zebrahead – Call Your Friends- NEW
We Came As Romans – Fade Away- NEW
Black Spiders – Balls- NEW
The Winery Dogs - Elevate- NEW
Drenge – Face Like A Skull- NEW

― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:31 (4 days ago)

idk what the any of this is, except killswitch & enter shikari

Melodic metalcore is a fusion genre blending traits with metalcore and melodic death metal, which combines sounds and traits from both genres.[1] It has melodic guitar riffs, blast beats, metalcore-stylized breakdowns and vocals that can range between growls, screaming and clean singing.

if that's the Outkast track then me and P!atD are no longer friends

When asked about the band's main influences, Mike Portnoy commented that they are working towards a classic rock sound, influenced by Led Zeppelin, Cream, Jimi Hendrix, Grand Funk Railroad, slightly by Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Black Crowes and Lenny Kravitz.[1]

= the american version of

Everything from The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan through to The Stone Roses, the Charlatans, Primal Scream, Ocean Colour Scene, Paul Weller, Oasis, Kasabian?

Drenge – Face Like A Skull- NEW

isnt that the band Tom Watson MP mentioned in his resignation letter to ed mil?

After spending the last three days driving across the Upper Midwest and Northern Ontario, I am feeling qualified to speak on FM rock radio formats in this stretch of mostly small-town North America. I am wondering if this might help clarify some of the discussions/arguments earlier.

So:

i) Proper bona fide classic rock stations that e.g. play Styx or Kansas on the hour and play nothing since the mid-80s and are well-described by this thread are still a staple pretty much everywhere in the US along this stretch. I don't think I actually came across one along this stretch in Ontario. They seem to have largely been phased out in favour of either a) stations named after carnivorous mammals (wolf, fox, or bear) that play Rush alongside Sam Roberts or the Tragically Hip or the Black Keys or b) stations named after monosyllabic male first names that play Golden Earring alongside Abba and Kool and the Gang.

The Wikipedia list of radio stations in Ontario (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_radio_stations_in_Ontario) lists 5 classic rock stations but 16 'classic hits' stations, 18 'active rock' stations, and 16 'adult hits' stations. Of those classic rock stations, I know that at least the Ottawa one plays plenty of 90s and 00s music as well. On the other hand, this list lists 22 classic rock stations, 32 classic hits stations, 7 adult hits stations, and 4 active rock stations.

ii) In the same way that a St Louis accent sounds more 'neutral' to me than my own, your classic rock format seems more 'normal' to me on some level. (Your classical music stations are kind of lame though.)

iii) I am a little intrigued as to whether this difference is indicative of a trend that will eventually spread to the US or whether it is due to the fact that Canadian stations have to play a quota of Canadian music, which didn't really come into its own until after rock's classic period.

iv) The White Stripes and Black Keys have a remarkable ability to blend in so well on the a) sort of station that until the obvious hook enters, I sometimes can't tell whether I'm hearing a 70s song or a recent one.

v) Most interestingly, oldies stations that plays 50s and 60s pop are still a real thing on FM radio in the US. I haven't come across one in Canada in 20 years, I don't think. (According to Wiki, they still exist on the AM dial.) Some stations CALL themselves oldies stations but are basically in this format.

Also, this is my new favourite radio programme:
http://www.prairiepublic.org/radio/radio-programs-a-z/friday-night-swing/

Most interestingly, oldies stations that plays 50s and 60s pop are still a real thing on FM radio
in the US.

there are stations that switch to an all-christmas music format during the holiday season where they play modern favorites like mariah but otherwise it's heavy on classics from the 50s/60s and earlier.

Our local "oldies" station ("Continuous 60s and 70s hits!") does the all-Christmas thing starting in like fucking October or some shit. Fills me with ia.

Fuck Mannheim fucking Steamroller.

Timely: http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/what-your-favorite-classic-rock-band-says-about-you

Steely Dan: You have snorted cocaine off a copy of Remembrance of Things Past.

Fleetwood Mac: You have snorted cocaine off a copy of The Hobbit.

Blue Oyster Cult: You have snorted cocaine off a copy of Type 2 Diabetes for Dummies.

Mountain: You have snorted cocaine off a Blue Oyster Cult record.

Nazareth: You have snorted cocaine off a member of Mountain.

Hawkwind: You sell cocaine to Nazareth fans.

Molly Hatchet: You sell baking soda to Hawkwind fans and tell them it’s cocaine.

s/timely/relevant, e.g. it's old but I saw it again today and it's perfect for the thread

hahaha:

The Eagles: You can only reach orgasm while listening to talk radio.

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OMG happy hardcore and ska! Trying to imagine that on a construction site, failing.

Bros working on the parking garage next door have been listening to classic rock (np: Pink Floyd - "Run Like Hell") all day. I just had a chuckle imagining them working to happy hardcore.

taglines like "Classic rock that rocks", "New Zealand's real rock station", "Just great rock", "We Endorse This Music", etc

Do any American CR stations have obnoxious taglines? Like defend-the-Alamo type stuff?

Or is it just The Sound in New Zealand? It began as a competitor to Hauraki and
The Rock, both of which are (now) mostly focused on the last 30 years. It seems like Hauraki removed a lot of the older rock it used to play, in response to The Sound grabbing that audience. You wouldn't expect MGMT and Amy Winehouse on Hauraki, but there they are.

Then there's The Sound. The Completely New No-Hype station!! Which is why their slogans have been "Less Lady Gaga, More Radio Gaga" "Keeping our music alive", and "This is the greatest music ever written"... Not that there's anything *wrong* with a white Anglicised '70s time-warp, but it makes it a bit unlikable altogether.

I wonder which listeners really believe The Who and Genesis are endangered music :) They should've just called it "Your Vinyl Collection, With Ads". Someone buy them a Herbs record, or something...

Highly debatable. The UK has never come up with anything as ancestor worshipping as 'classic rock' radio.

Yeah we did.

''The inhabitants of Britain originally worshipped their ancestors''

That truly was the golden age...

I just had a chuckle imagining them working to happy hardcore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBuehLCn_XE