its what most people my age listened to in the 90s here.
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
thought sndr was working with 'pastry salesmen', had a moment of wonkalike glee : (
― j., Monday, 12 August 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
Classic rock stations have historically been hesitant to add 1990s rock such as alternative rock and grunge to their playlists, due in part to the drastic difference in style, but (mirroring a similar trend in classic country, where a similar 1990-era divide also exists) a small number of classic rock stations began adding 1990s music in the early 2010s.[
So at what point will classic rock radio abandon the past and start playing post 1990 music only instead?
The classic rock format is mainly tailored to the adult male demographic, primarily ages 25–34, but also has a significant base in the 18–24 and 35–44 year old demographics as well.
Really? I assumed classic rock radio would be mainly 40+ (or nearer 50+) Surprised its so popular in the 18-34 range.
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
It's the default for a large demographic. That's what we're trying to tell you.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
cars, dude
― j., Monday, 12 August 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
12-year-olds who take guitar lessons typically still want to learn classic Purp/Zep/Ozzy/AC/DC/Cream riffs.
Xpost
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
Used to hear music students idly playing Rush tunes to unwind all the time around the building in Windsor.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
i suppose its no different to kids reading mojo and wanting to sound like oasis/beatles/stones etc
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
Lol at 'drastic difference in style' between 90s alt and classic rock.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
"Can't hack this Badmotorfinger bullshit. Give me my Sabbath vinyl."
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
* nb some of these dudes are not exactly dudes and if you put on anything other than the country station you're gonna git somethin done to you
wait a min, so in certain parts if you listened to metallica or ted nugent or ac/dc you would get beaten up and/or called a "faggot" ?
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
hearing a classic rock station sneak Stone Temple Pilots into their night rotation is pretty jarring tbh
― I tweeted too much and I am in jail. (crüt), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
ted nugent is country enough
Arguably, the distinction between 'rock' and 'R&B' since the 60s is itself based more on social/racial factors than musical ones, considering that Led Zeppelin probably has more in common with Funkadelic than with Bob Dylan. Did this become more cemented with AOR then?
I would bet on it.
Even MTV didn't play black music before Thriller and only begrudgingly from then on. That's a well-told story.
You can also pick up a CREEM magazine from the mid-1970s and see David Bowie or the Stones being voted "R&B artist of the Year" in the Readers Poll.
It's a really interesting subject, because in the early 1960s people thought black & white music were merging.. they even stopped doing the R&B chart in 1964. Then it all changed back.
― Josefa, Monday, 12 August 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
no no no, just that the pure country dudes can kind of hold themselves apart a bit xxp
― j., Monday, 12 August 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like some Classic Rock stations were AOR stations that morphed into CR as their audience aged. There was a station in my town that back in the late 70s played all current rock (Squire, Dio era Sabb, zep, etc.) and by the early 90s was playing that same stuff, after a decade of trying to stay current with stuff like Motley Crue and Jeff Healey, but with 70s stuff increasingly taking over the playlists.
― President Keyes, Monday, 12 August 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
why?
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like some Classic Rock stations were AOR stations that morphed into CR as their audience aged.
that is what I assumed tbh
people be racist?
xp
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
I'm reading Elijah Wald's book, which covers this subject.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
its funny as AOR has always meant Adult Orientated Rock in the UK. As noodle vague can testify Kerrang/Raw in the mid 80s were really into it and acts like Magnum were playing the big arenas (despite little airplay). Music mags basically kept rock alive here I think.
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
Called How the Beatles Destroyed Rock and Roll
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
Why did it change or why did they stop doing the R&B chart?
Billboard stopped doing the R&B chart because it had started to overlap too much with their Pop chart and therefore was deemed superfluous.
Why did the trend reverse is a big question that I wish someone would research and write a book about. I suspect it has to do with marketing, and streamlining the selling of records.
― Josefa, Monday, 12 August 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
Most of this stuff didn't get played on radio here, were all these staples of aor/classic rock radio at the time?
Kerrang 1988 The Best AOR Albums Of All Time(as per the readers of Kerrang! magazine back on October 29, 1988)
1. Escape - Journey2. Everybodys Crazy - Michael Bolton3. Night Of The Crime - Icon4. Native Sons - Strangeways5. Raised On Radio - Journey6. White Sister - White Sister7. Heart - Heart8. Fashion By Passion - White Sister9. Vital Signs - Survivor10. Slippery When Wet - Bon Jovi11. Michael Bolton - Michael Bolton12. In For The Count - Balance13. Pride - White Lion14. Dawn Patrol - Night Ranger =. 4 - Foreigner15. The Hunger - Michael Bolton16. Reckless - Bryan Adams17. Indiscreet - FM18. Bad Animals - Heart19. Boston - Boston20. Frontiers - Journey21. Seven Wishes - Night Ranger = Bon Jovi - Bon Jovi22. Only Child - Only Child = Freight Train Heart - Jimmy Barnes = A Matter Of Attitude - Fate23. Spys - Spys24. Heartbreak - Sabu25. Crimes In Mind - Streets26. Hughes Thrall - Hughes Thrall27. The Big Prize - Honeymoon Suite = Excess All Areas - Shy28. Touch - Touch29. Hysteria - Def Leppard30. Sinful - Angel = Aviator - Aviator31. Under Lock And Key - Dokken32. Silk+Steel - Giuffria = When Seconds Count - Survivor33. IV - Toto34. The Grand Illusion - Styx = A Diamond Is A Hard Rock - Legs Diamond = So Fired Up - LeRoux = Midnight Madness - Night Ranger = Wired Up - Jeff Paris35. Dreamboat Annie - Heart =. On A Storyteller's Night - Magnum36. Fireworks - Bonfire = Rumors - Fleetwood Mac37. Subject - Aldo Nova = Ignition - John Waite = Giuffria - Giuffria38. Friction - Coney Hatch = Pieces Of Eight - Styx = Isolation - Toto39. The Final Countdown - Europe40. Welcome To The Real World - Mr. Mister = Alpha - Asia = Shaft Of Light - Airraces :-)
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
wtf is White Sister
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
I swear at least half of them I've never even heard of
lol xp
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
It's kind of interesting that I think there might be a certain dichotomy where certain sorts of classic rock, e.g. Rush and Tull, appeal both to nerdy musicians and to working-class dudes. I could talk about those bads with my PhD advisor as well as the guys who worked in the cafeteria.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
Bands
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
both were into Yes, actually
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
The 1980s saw some stations adding glam metal bands such as Mötley Crüe and Bon Jovi, while others embraced modern rock acts such as The Fixx, INXS and U2. But by the end of the decade, AOR stations were playing fewer and fewer new artists and the rise of grunge, alternative and hip-hop accelerated the fadeout of the album-oriented rock format. By the early 1990s many AOR radio stations switched exclusively to the classic rock format or segued to other current formats with somewhat of an AOR approach
― fit and working again, Monday, 12 August 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
I was going to ask actually are Inxs and U2 classic rock now?
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADAb4_wjv9o
wow!
― how's life, Monday, 12 August 2013 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/creem_lists.htm
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
U2 def gets classic rock airplay. I don't hear much INXS.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
74
Top R&B Album
1. Stevie Wonder- Fullfillingness' First Finale2. J. Geils Band- Nightmares From The Vinyl Jungle3. Rolling Stones- It's Only Rock 'n' Roll (But I Like It)4. Average White Band5. Rufus- Rags To Rufus6. Stevie Wonder- Innervisions7. Eric Clapton- 461 Ocean Blvd.8. Marvin Gaye Live9. Ohio Players- Fire10. Gladys Knight & The Pips- Imagination
Best R&B Group: 1) J. Geils Band 2) Rufus 3) Gladys Knight & The Pips
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
75
Best R&B Album
1. Stevie Wonder- Songs In The Key Of Life2. Rolling Stones- Love You Live3. Commodores4. Geils- Monkey Island5. Boz Scaggs- Silk Degrees6. Bob Marley & The Wailers- Exodus7. Gregg Allman- Playin' Up A Storm8. Parlaiment- Parlaiment Live/P-Funk Earth Tour9. Emotions- Rejoice10. Muddy Waters- Hard Again
Best R&B Single
1. Stevie Wonder- Sir Duke2. Heatwave- Boogie Nights3. Boz Scaggs- Lido Shuffle4. Commodores- Easy5. Stevie Wonder- I Wish6. Commodores- Brick House7. Fleetwood Mac- Dreams <---------------------------- lol8. Peter Frampton- Signed, Sealed, Delivered9. Boz Scaggs- Lowdown10. Donna Summer- I Feel Love
Best R&B Singer: 1) Mick Jagger 2) Stevie Wonder 3) Boz ScaggsBest R&B Group: 1) Rolling Stones 2) Earth, Wind & Fire 3) Commodores
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
sorry thats 77 not 75
1. David Bowie - Youg Americans2. J. Geils Band - Hotline3. Average White Band - Cut The cake4. War - Why Can't We Be Friends?5. Bob Marley & The Wailers - Natty Dread6. Isley Brothers - The Heat Is On7. Earth, Wind & Fire - That's The Way Of The World8. Ohio Players - Honey9. Labelle - Phoenix10. Spinners - Pick Of The Litter
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
The thing is I'm totally fine with saying all of those are working in the same R&B-derived tradition, as long as they don't have a separate all-white 'rock' chart.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
this made me lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_album_alternative
Notable artistsAAA artists take influence from post-new wave British bands such as The Smiths, anthemic post-punk inspired sounds of U2, 1990s jangle pop (Gin Blossoms, Hootie & the Blowfish, Barenaked Ladies, Goo Goo Dolls), acoustic folk rock (Indigo Girls, Tori Amos, Jeff Buckley, Sarah McLachlan, Fiona Apple, Jewel), alternative rock (The Wallflowers, Sheryl Crow, Dave Matthews Band, Joon Wolfsberg), and the moody electronics of trip hop (Portishead) The music played has gained significant exposure for artists who were ambitious, intellectual, or idiosyncratic, yet still accessible enough to meet the requirements of mainstream radio programmers who wanted more sophisticated music that wasn't loud or overly disturbing.
AAA artists take influence from post-new wave British bands such as The Smiths, anthemic post-punk inspired sounds of U2, 1990s jangle pop (Gin Blossoms, Hootie & the Blowfish, Barenaked Ladies, Goo Goo Dolls), acoustic folk rock (Indigo Girls, Tori Amos, Jeff Buckley, Sarah McLachlan, Fiona Apple, Jewel), alternative rock (The Wallflowers, Sheryl Crow, Dave Matthews Band, Joon Wolfsberg), and the moody electronics of trip hop (Portishead)
The music played has gained significant exposure for artists who were ambitious, intellectual, or idiosyncratic, yet still accessible enough to meet the requirements of mainstream radio programmers who wanted more sophisticated music that wasn't loud or overly disturbing.
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
Kerrang was probably ahead of its readership in terms of covering AOR, i really have no idea who in the UK was listening to Journey in the mid 80s, certainly not the metal kids i knew
― failed skirty tropes (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
recently played at the local classic rock station:
Twice As Hard The Black CrowesHave You Ever Seen the Rain? Creedence Clearwater RevivalUnder Pressure David BowieCrazy On You HeartDouble Vision ForeignerT.N.T. AC/DCLa Grange ZZ TopI Shot the Sheriff Eric ClaptonRock the Casbah The ClashRock n Roll Led ZeppelinBurning for You Blue Öyster CultBargain The WhoLove Is a Battlefield Pat BenatarJungle Love Steve MillerBreakdown The HeartbreakersReprise / Day in the Life BeatlesLife During Wartime Talking HeadsFlying High Again Ozzy Osborne
― fit and working again, Monday, 12 August 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
i swear i hear that Reprise / Day in the Life every time i'm at the gym
the slightly older metal kids maybe? I know a few people that fit that description who were very much into serious poodle rock but hated glam metal like poison/warrant et al
xp to nv
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
NV also that Kerrang list is a READERS list
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
Creem readers also regularly chose as their favourite jazz acts Chicago and Edgar Winter (cause he played a saxophone on occasion)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i know it was a readers list but list-making doesn't always reflect what people are listening to irl - the lower half of that list feels totally like some makeweight 5 vote shit
― failed skirty tropes (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
like, i am aware of the existence of stuff like Legs Diamond or Coney Hatch thru Kerrang but nobody in the UK has ever listened to them ever, objective fact.
― failed skirty tropes (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link