Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel

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:-)

stirmonster, Sunday, 1 September 2013 12:38 (eleven years ago) link

I got Love a few months ago and it was fantastic. I've been looking for Nail for a while and wondering why the remaster copies are so expensive. Is it really worth getting the remaster?

There are about 17 albums on mp3. I'm still reluctant to get mp3's but they do have Nail for super cheap, presumably remastered.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

have wondered the same ..
the original cds are quiet, but sound ok to me, so not that bothered re the remasters ..

mark e, Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

I'm in Austria for the night. Best I could do, sorry

which can be sold for meat if they are boys.. (sorry guys) (imago), Sunday, 1 September 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

"Today is the first of Septembah!"

mark e, Monday, 1 September 2014 09:41 (ten years ago) link

:-)

stirmonster, Monday, 1 September 2014 13:10 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

"Today is the first of Septembah!"

stirmonster, Monday, 31 August 2015 23:00 (nine years ago) link

See you at your FUNERAL, baby

new noise, Monday, 31 August 2015 23:08 (nine years ago) link

Sieg heil!

Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Monday, 31 August 2015 23:13 (nine years ago) link

"Today is the first of Septembah!"

― stirmonster, Monday, 31 August 2015 23:00 (Yesterday)

someone was keen !

mark e, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link

this was a cool watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhxXZa29FVE

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link

o yeah that is very good, Coil footage as well

sleeve, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link

yeah this is cool

david tibet's a miserable sort tho ;)

Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link

someone was keen !

it was actually 00.00 uk time. :-)

stirmonster, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link

haha .. I thought that was the case, but still, you were clearly determined this year !

mark e, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link

david tibet's a miserable sort tho ;)

― Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:54 AM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the doc is a pretty wide array of different specimins of miserable sorts!

test depts. young communist drag clothes really cracks me up for some reason, the live footage of them is amazing tho

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link

david tibet is a bit trenchant in this

foetus zings him nicely

Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link

i kinda like current 93 but i dunno all this stuff it's hard to know where it ends and all that death in june/boyd rice shit begins, which creeps me out

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link

I feel pretty good about tibet in that regard

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link

yeah they cut ties in the late 90's iirc? when DIJ got kicked off of World Serpent...

sleeve, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link

haha .. I thought that was the case, but still, you were clearly determined this year !

your turn next year!

stirmonster, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

his version of "warm leatherette" had better be very special as that song has been covered to death.

in case anyone was waiting for feedback on this statement : it is very very special.

big band noise vs old school jim vocals.

mark e, Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:04 (eight years ago) link

yes, he did something new with it. first cover version of it i have thought was any good for eons.

stirmonster, Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:20 (eight years ago) link

phew !
was a little worried given your declared concerns.
got SLUNG on headphones v.v. loud at the moment.
it really is stunningly brilliant.
for all the crap re Sony/GASH, for SLUNG alone it was worth it.

mark e, Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link

need to check it out as i've never heard that one. i hadn't listened to any foetus in a while but dug out "deaf" and "ache" last week. so fresh!

stirmonster, Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:33 (eight years ago) link

SLUNG = 11 minutes of big band FOETUS.
need i say anymore.
its insanely good.
and i have never heard DEAF/ACHE as i have always assumed they would be crappy lo-fi experiences.
HOLE/NAIL = 24 track + fairlight (NAIL) ..

mark e, Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:44 (eight years ago) link

WHAT

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:49 (eight years ago) link

dude I will mail you CDRs if you email me your address

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:49 (eight years ago) link

Ache is especially amazing and essential

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:49 (eight years ago) link

haha ! cheers sleeve ..

mark e, Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link

(thumbs up icon)

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link

I was just listening to Vein when I saw this thread revived. I've spent quite a bit of time this month listening to Calamity Crush/Catastophe Crunch. So good, especially the latter. Do you think that was made with a fairlight then? Obviously it sounds like it but how did he have access to one?

everything, Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:44 (eight years ago) link

I think he rented it?

In the 80s were you eyeing up Fairlight CMIs when they were released, or did you know such budgets would be out of reach and so made the best you could with the tools available?

JGT: I used the Fairlight extensively on Nail. Fairlight had its own onboard computer and sequencing. Within a couple of years it was almost obsolete for me as I moved on to the first generation of Akai S-series samplers and an Atari computer, among other things. Those were my weapons of choice on Thaw, but the difference was I had those for pre-production, whereas the Fairlight I was using while the studio clock was ticking. Again I think there was a big shift between Nail and Thaw.

from

http://thequietus.com/articles/06354-foetus-jg-thirlwell-interview

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:46 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, ACHE is essential and I consider it more or less as good as the following two albums. DEAF is closer to "crappy low-fi exerience" for sure but still worth yoir time.

sleepingsignal, Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:47 (eight years ago) link

the "deaf" version of "today i started slogging again" is so great!

lots of fairlight sounds on "calamity crush / catastrophe crunch". whatever his faults, one thing stevo was great at was coming up with the recording (and packaging) budgets for some bizzare releases back then.

stirmonster, Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:51 (eight years ago) link

that bloody tQ interview ;-)

(for a few weeks me and jim proper fell out over a question i asked prior to the end result ..)

mark e, Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:54 (eight years ago) link

in fact, if you listen to "tesla girls" by OMD you'll had a few of the same fairlight library sounds as used on "calamity crush".

stirmonster, Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:54 (eight years ago) link

mark I did not realize that was you! nice work.

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link

also, not done any interviews since.
felt like i had peaked with jim.
he was the top of the tree (other than bowie of course!) for me.

xp.

mark e, Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link

Not Jeff Lynne? haha. I just reread that interview. Cool.

everything, Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:57 (eight years ago) link

haha.
well, yeah.
but the ELO thing only kicks in when i am drunk.

mark e, Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:58 (eight years ago) link

(for a few weeks me and jim proper fell out over a question i asked prior to the end result ..)

Curious about this, if you wouldn't mind expanding on the story...

(I went to his apartment to do an Invisible Jukebox with him for The Wire some years ago. Tremendously nice guy—at least, he is now that he's clean.)

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 4 March 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link

ok, here goes, bear with me, as it was a crap idea.

basically, if you go to pantomime in the UK with kids the opening section is meant to scare the kids to death.
then as the pantomime progresses, good overcomes the evil, and all is well with the world.
hence the opening section of a decent panto is often full of kids screaming and being scared.
well, in my naivety, i put it to jim that the FOETUS groove was akin to panto.
i.e. its full on and rather scary to start with, but as you get in deeper then you realise the truth etc etc.
however, jim took offence to the use of the word pantomime.
he just thought it was all crap second rate slapstick (which most of it is !).
then after i explained my thought process, he pointed me in the direction of a tradition of french theatre thats seriously dark ..
and clearly a cousin of the original ideas behind the uk panto.

and yes, once we cleared the air, it became very apparent that jim is now one of the most warm, intelligent music makers out there.
just that my crappy inane shyte did not sit well with this deep thought groove.

mark e, Friday, 4 March 2016 00:15 (eight years ago) link

Could've guessed he had a dim view of pantos:
"Look at all the ugly people
Diggin holes to pass the time
Semi spastic weak and feeble
Never ending pantomime"

everything, Friday, 4 March 2016 00:28 (eight years ago) link

ahh.
that's not a lyric i am aware of !
pre-HOLE material ?

mark e, Friday, 4 March 2016 00:35 (eight years ago) link

Horrible/funny image in my head of Hot Horse being used as an end of panto singalong.

Ad h (onimo), Friday, 4 March 2016 00:35 (eight years ago) link

hang on .. its on FLOW.

mark e, Friday, 4 March 2016 00:36 (eight years ago) link

(not that its easy to tell !)

mark e, Friday, 4 March 2016 00:37 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...
five months pass...

"Today is the first of Septembah!"

the tradition continues.

mark e, Thursday, 1 September 2016 09:42 (eight years ago) link


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