saw them in boston a few nights ago, they seemed like the most wkiw people alive, predictably. most of their new songs sounded more like led zeppelin than steely dan, but i was very much into it.
― een, Friday, 6 September 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
yeah don't save me is my fav, too
― flopson, Friday, 6 September 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
the wire is super catchy, seems like a song i've heard before but it's not
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 10:55 (ten years ago) link
"if i could change your mind" is as good as any of their pre-album singles imo
― J0rdan S., Monday, August 19, 2013 10:05 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
omg this song
― monotony, Saturday, 14 September 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
somebody at work said the wire sounds like the wanderer and it's true
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 September 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
title track also A++++++
god i love this band
― monotony, Saturday, 14 September 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
it sounds like something else though, it is on the TIP OF MY TONGUE.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 September 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
this really feels like a 1980s fleetwood mac album (in a great way) not least b/c even the filler sounds really good
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 15 September 2013 06:44 (ten years ago) link
wow @ "If I Could Change Your Mind."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 September 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
Saw them at Glastonbury, they are really good life. Is the album out yet? Curious to know whether the studio version of "Let Me Go" is as good as the live version.
― no press, Sunday, 15 September 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link
This is a great album but I'm envious of anyone who's going to hear this while being unfamiliar with the singles. Because I'm so familiar with so much of it there are relatively few wow tracks on first listen (and 'If I Can Change Your Mind' is definitely one of them). If I were coming to this completely cold there would be five or six.
The production on this is excellent by the way, there's so much going on and the sound is huge. I'd never noticed quite how deep those drums on 'Falling' are. Also, there's a moment on the title track where the drums and the 80s guitars and the vocals fall away and there's like three seconds of post-dubstep bass rumble and echo chamber synths, it's a really odd production detail but it totally works.
― Matt DC, Monday, 16 September 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
My wife came in yesterday and actually thought this was Fleetwood Mac.
I blame ILX for focusing my ears to the residual Eagles-ness of "The Wire," but this song is better than "Heartache Tonight" X100.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 September 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, the production is wonderful. So many details that keep me coming back, although it's weird how different the live sound is - The Wire is one of the only songs that bridges the gap.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
I think the Fleetwood Mac-isms are pretty overstated by just about everyone. Not every tightly produced 80s pop/rock single was by Mac, and Haim definitely stand apart from the nostalgia hordes in 2013. I just think people don't know how to deal with new sounds anymore, especially inside familiar genres, because it doesn't happen often.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link
Eh, I think my respect for the Mac-isms goes deeper than facsimile. That is, this sounds like Fleetwood Mac without sounding just like Fleetwood Mac. It captures a similar vibe and attention to detail as '80s Mac. But I agree that there's a freshness and excitement to this that transcends trends. Like, I sometimes get a certain Tegan and Sara vibe from this, too, but it's just so much more easygoing than that stuff, which (lately) sticks to a particularly contemporary radio vibe. HAIM is sort of like had someone described a lot of bands to this talented group or musicians without actually playing them the music, leaving them to imagine how it sounds.
Who did produce this, the band?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 September 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
Hmm, Ariel Rechtshaid. His credits are slick but diverse enough that he proved a pretty sympathetic producer! But, wow, it really could have gone any direction. I credit the band for being too awesome to ruin.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 September 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link
'My Song 5' is useless toss though. Not sure what possessed them to include that. Ten songs is enough.
― Matt DC, Monday, 16 September 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
At 2.35 on Forever there's a weird thing where the bass is pitched down for a sec, but the tempo reduces too, like a sample being played back slower. It's distracting to my ears.
― 29 facepalms, Monday, 16 September 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
xp I think band that was overly concerned about Fleetwood Mac comparisons would not have covered two Fleetwood Mac songs (Oh Well and Hold Me)
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 16 September 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
THIS ALBUM IS THE FUCKING BIZNESS
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 09:46 (ten years ago) link
Getting a bit of a Paul Simon vibe off Honey & I.
On first listen I thought there was a big gulf in quality between the singles and (most of) the rest of the album but now I'm not so sure. They're really fucking good at doing the last minute of a pop song, all those crescendos and interweaving harmonies.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 09:52 (ten years ago) link
I'm on my fourth consecutive listen. Can't remember the last time I played an album this many times in a row.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 09:54 (ten years ago) link
i note that ILX faves Better Off and Send Me Down are both on the 'deluxe edition' along with a bunch of remixes, although bizarrely not the Lindstrom remix of Forever.
http://store.universal-music.co.uk/restofworld/artists/haim/icat/haim
― piscesx, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:04 (ten years ago) link
The Lindstrom mix wasn't even on the 10" vinyl - it gets no love from Haim for some weird reason.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:08 (ten years ago) link
the psychmagik remix is so freakin good
― max, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:20 (ten years ago) link
tomorrow:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b039x7n4
"HAIM pick the music, taking control of Radio 1 with their Super Sweet Bat Mitzvah playlist!"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
did anyone mention on this thread how they rip off prince when you were mine in parts of "forever"? so maybe they are analagous to story of stevie nicks pulling over to side of road after hearing little red corv and then writing stand back but replace her with christine mcvie soundalike and when your were/forever
― dell (del), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
has unperson weighed in yet
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
don't save me and forever are still their only great songs for me. maybe the album will kick in shortly
― dell (del), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
Can't wait to hear this.
― Geoffrey Schweppes (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
perfectly sweet album (sweetly perfect more like perhaps) but i can't say i'm really finding anywhere to connect with it. just kinda seem like savages for not-savages at the end of the day
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
Not hearing the "Forever"/"When You Were Mine" connect. They're both pop songs with chugging new wave guitars but beyond that...?
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 19:04 (ten years ago) link
days are gone days are gone oh!
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link
that song is so good
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
not sure what i think of the latin freestyle/lisa lisa and cult jam-like touches. more than touches, really. all over the title track. not opposed to this in principle, but it really breaks up the album in a distracting way.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 05:13 (ten years ago) link
solution: just put that song on repeat for long periods of time :)
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 07:20 (ten years ago) link
kind of wish I had two brothers I could start a Haim tribute band with :(
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 08:14 (ten years ago) link
just kinda seem like savages for not-savages at the end of the day
― r|t|c, Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what does this even mean
― monotony, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 08:48 (ten years ago) link
really
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 08:56 (ten years ago) link
Based on two listens on the bus today, this album is really good but the song with the dubstep bass stops it from being great. I don't get much of an r&b vibe - 80s or contemporary - from this at all, it reminds me more of those El Perro Del Mar/Taken By Trees albums produced by the guys from Studio.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
xp i guess you are trying to say you don't connect with either haim or savages? i just don't see how they are comparable groups
other than they have wymmyn with guitars in
― monotony, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
Enjoying the new tracks on the album immensely but really every time "the wire" comes on I have to put it on repeat.
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:20 (ten years ago) link
i heard "the wire" on an actual american commercial radio station this morning.
― circles, Thursday, 19 September 2013 03:06 (ten years ago) link
what kind of station? alt rock? top 40?
I don't get much of an r&b vibe - 80s or contemporary - from this at all
I get more r&b from some of the new songs, "If I Could Change Your Mind"/"Days Are Gone"/"My Song 5" specifically, than any of the old songs.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:38 (ten years ago) link
alt rock station
― circles, Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:09 (ten years ago) link
this so great. not sure why i waited on listening to it. i think i got some fatigue from the trickle of songs and 'the wire' didn't make me as excited as 'don't save me' or 'falling' but this is really really good stuff.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 19 September 2013 06:11 (ten years ago) link
except the wire is hitting hard now. is the album version different from whatever i originally hard?
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 19 September 2013 06:17 (ten years ago) link
the version at the top of the thread sounds v much like a demo compared to the album version
― The Reverend, Thursday, 19 September 2013 06:53 (ten years ago) link
My Song 5 is terrible because you get the sense that they actually believed all that nonsense about them being Fleetwood Mac-meets-R&B or whatever and tried to write an obviously R&B-influenced song. Only problem is that both they and their producer are really bad at it, the whole thing is clumsy and just doesn't work.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:38 (ten years ago) link
"Honey I" is a nice take on "Sweet Jane"-isms.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:44 (ten years ago) link