This thread has alot of posts
― danbunny, Friday, 13 September 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link
A hokey tune about train travel that must already have been antiquated in 1974.
Eagles must've been the steampunks of their day.
― pplains, Friday, 13 September 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, Frey doesn't really have enough (or any) ideas to sustain a long coda slide solo. Otherwise, this would be a reasonably charming song.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 13 September 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
"another unnecessarily long coda"
In this case, no way. I love the squishy guitar and banjo breakdown on this one.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 13 September 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
this song is pretty lame
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 September 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
I like that it starts out like 'Eastbound and Down' but it kinda goes downhill for me from there
I do like the train wooohoooos
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 September 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
idk man this one's a winner to me
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 13 September 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
this one is ok
i'm a sucker for that kinda fast banjo thing
i dunno, not memorable though
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 September 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
"This thread has alot of posts"
get back to work, hippie.
― scott seward, Friday, 13 September 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Y7eaN__xLRk/RqOaeFsNN4I/AAAAAAAACLo/mS93qDBkGcY/s400/don3.jpg
"Get back to work, hippie!"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 September 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
"Midnight Flyer" was a pleasant surprise on The Very Best of. Don't think it outlasts it's welcome. Looking back now, kind of surprised it's almost 4 minutes. Very breezy. Are we sure that's Frey on slide? IIRC, Felder's slide ability was a big part of him getting hired--Henley called him "the reincarnation of Duane Allman" or some such coke-ism.
From Crowe's liners:
MIDNIGHT FLYERDON: I was happy to do something in that vein, because I was a big bluegrass fan. The Dillards, in particular, had an enormous impact on me. Along with Doug Dillard and Herb Pedersen, Bernie Leadon was one of the top banjo players in the country, so I was proud to do a bluegrass tune — thought it lent a certain amount of authenticity and credibility to our band. It showed versatility.Even now the Eagles are thought of as a country-rock band. The music industry and the media saddled us with that label at the very beginning, and, no matter how diverse our musical palate, it has been impossible to shake that stereotype. At the end of the day, we’re an American band. We’re a musical mutt with influences from every genre of American popular music. It’s all in there, and it’s fairly obvious.
Even now the Eagles are thought of as a country-rock band. The music industry and the media saddled us with that label at the very beginning, and, no matter how diverse our musical palate, it has been impossible to shake that stereotype. At the end of the day, we’re an American band. We’re a musical mutt with influences from every genre of American popular music. It’s all in there, and it’s fairly obvious.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
Henley called him "the reincarnation of Duane Allman" or some such coke-ism.
^Felder must have been some sort of child genius as it looks like he was born in 1971.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
xp song lengths have been creeping up these last few, it augurs ill imo
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 September 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
felder, leadon, and meisner are definitely all really good players
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link
The 'train passing' harmony at 2:23 must've been really hard to execute
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 September 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
Meisner m.v.p. in putting some propulsion into these songs.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 14 September 2013 03:54 (ten years ago) link
"My Man"
http://www.bernieleadononline.com/images/BLeadonBanjoColor.jpg
http://youtu.be/bbpw6LG5a8I
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 September 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
Shoeshineidaho 4 months agoI've known this song, (how to play it) since the album came out, Long time ago huh? I've have no problems playin' this on stage or in front of anyone, until my father passed away @ 86yrs. a couple of months ago. I'm 60, and when I play this song now-- -it has to be in my room- - -and private. I can get through it- - but not in front of any one else. He had dementia, didn't know any of us for quite a while.If I COULD write, like this, this one's for you dad. But alone, in my room :-)!
slockisadyoutube :(
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 September 2013 13:22 (ten years ago) link
I **cing love this tune. excellent Gram pastiche
― making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 14 September 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
Wow I like this one. I'd heard of it, knew it was Leadon's tribute/eulogy for Gram Parsons, his bandmate in the second Burrito Bros album, but never heard it.
Bernie Leadon becoming my favorite Eagle, though I realize that's faint praise. Just learned he was in Hearts & Flowers too - never knew that, have only heard their first album which predated his being in the band. Also of course was all over the great first Dillard & Clark album.
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Saturday, 14 September 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
Another nice one. Has there ever been a figure in Rock (aside from a mega-star like Elvis) who quickly inspired so many posthumous tributes in song? Parsons has got "My Man", "From Boulder To Birmingham", "Crazy Eyes", I think Hillman had one on a SHF Band album too.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 14 September 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
I keep hearing this thread title said by Mark E Smith in "New Face in Hell" by the Fall
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 14 September 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
Topless enthusiAST
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 14 September 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:43 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Poco's "Crazy Eyes", though about Parsons, was not posthumous. (it almost was - the album was released just four days before he died)
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Saturday, 14 September 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
mentioned upthread that I got all the Eagles records in a box set in 05. the entire bloody eagles corpus has been rolling around in my various devices since then.
I think, despite agreeing with many herein re: the shittiness of Meisner's songs on the previous two, that "my man" is the worst song of the initial run of LPs. Bernie seems to be a unaffected, normal dude, a fine player, but he is the worst, which is to say, least distinctive singer out of the seven.
The only competition for shittiest tune is another one of his, on the next record, which Henley in particular disliked not only cuz it sounded like "cocktail music" but that it was co-written by Leadon's girlfriend at the time, the spawn of a man viscerally despised by the counter-culture.
I also don't get the love here for Hoskyn's HC book. On the recommendation of this thread and its antecedent, I read it, and it seems wholly unnecessary and repetitive of his 1997 Waiting for the Sun, which encompasses LA music of the the 40s to the late 90s.
I bought Marc Eliot's To the Limit when it came out in 99. Now that has some funny shit! He does, however, pussy out on the Henley "hello pimp? the underage hooker is broken: I want another sent to my pad NOW" incident and declines to describe it at all.
― veronica moser, Saturday, 14 September 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
"My Man" kinda unremarkable, but faintly touching.
Funniest part is what Gram thought about the Eagles: "a plastic dry fuck."
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 04:16 (ten years ago) link
^ My appreciation of GP just grew immensely
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Sunday, 15 September 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link
kinda unremarkable, faintly touching
Agree with this. It doesn't quite just sit there, like their earlier boring filler; this is good filler, a bit of movement, honest vocal, a pleasant way of passing time.
I dig the easy vibe here way more than the familiar greatest hits stuff. In my mind there's a fantasy alternate greatest hits which is also all easy vibes - this'd be on there.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 September 2013 11:41 (ten years ago) link
"On The Border"
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/vYh8Vry9pkE/hqdefault.jpg
http://youtu.be/wRmzajCyToo
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
This track was inspired by the infamous Watergate scandal and fears at the time of the government overstepping its bounds and infringing on people's privacy. Barely audible at the end of the song, Frey can be heard whispering "Say Goodnight, Dick," a line made famous by Dan Rowan of Rowan and Martin but in this case referring to Richard Nixon's resignation. Nixon would indeed resign five months after the release of the album.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
Lead vocals by Don Henley, T.N.T.S. by "Coach", claps by The Clapetts, lead guitar (uncredited) by Glenn Frey
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
TS: "On The Border" vs. "You Haven't Done Nothin'"
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
I actually dig this, though, way more than I thought I would. Easily the funkiest thing they ever did, and not unconvincingly so.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
"my man" is pretty slight. nice sentiment i guess.
"on the border" is the first thing i've heard so far that sounds like later period eagles.
doesn't really go anywhere though. these guys are just so ploddy they can't help it.
i really dig the sound of the claps. sounds really processes almost post-punk snare type sound.
the lyrics remind me of henley solo stuff that kinda political jive he thinks he's good at.
the last minute or so with the call and response "on the border" and the triplets on the cowbell really pick things up.
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 15 September 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
good call on "Border" being the first track that conceivably Walsh could've played on. yet there's still a bit of CSNY in the chorus harmonies and the Band in the swapping vocals in the bridge.
this is okay, if a bit plodding and it pales (blanches) compared to the other "phonetapping" Nixon songs of '74, like "Fingerprint File" and Stevie's "Haven't Done Nothing." (and pinging Nixon in summer '74 is shooting fish in a barrel).
― col, Sunday, 15 September 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
ums otm, i love that last minute and half - can't believe the eagles got funky multiple times. the harmonies remind me of grand funk more than csny!
― balls, Sunday, 15 September 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
i long thought this actually was from the Joe Walsh era - the intro, especially, sounds like him
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Sunday, 15 September 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
Now there's a thread: Out of the Car, Longhair - Songs where another vocalist plays the part of a cop
― pplains, Sunday, 15 September 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
'On the Border' also sonically mimics the paranoid funk that the Stones were putting out with 'Fingerprint File'. Funk definitely threw a monkey wrench to the rock bands of the day. Even hard rock stalwarts like Deep Purple were entranced with the funk pushing up the bass and getting that real wet drum sound with percussion overdubs at that time. Go check out some of the tunes on the second album by Mk.III Deep Purple with David Coverdale and Glenn Hughes to see what I mean.
― earlnash, Sunday, 15 September 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
"Out of the Car, Longhair - Songs where another vocalist plays the part of a cop"
there's got to be a bunch of 'em. "Save the Life of My Child" off Bookends randomly comes to min. "Summertime Blues' probl. the spritual godfather of such songs, though I bet there's some in early country and jazz.
― col, Sunday, 15 September 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
min = mind
Funk definitely threw a monkey wrench to the rock bands of the day.
Hell, even the Who got funky:http://youtu.be/p91GXWXyngo
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
rockers getting funky part of the foundation of hip hop. just ask Mountain.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link
Totally. It's kind of amazing to think that Jefferson Starship were once sufficiently funky as to be sampled by Public Enemy.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
Eh, it's kind of retrofitted funk. Almost anything is funky if you loop it. Like the Jungle Brothers sampling Iggy clearing his throat or whatever.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
^ funk authority
― balls, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
funkmaster josh
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
Not into this. It reminds me more of where barroom rock ventured in the late 80s than any actual funk.
I was actually a bit confused about why you were all citing funk at all til I picked up on the rising lick after the 7. I can see it just about now - the dirty lead get kind of funky around 2:00, there's some Bowie funk kicking in around 2:50. The last 90 seconds are quite cool but they are not funk, Henley's playing is too stiff (though I do like it)
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
let's be clear here, its funky FOR THE EAGLES.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link