Not into this. It reminds me more of where barroom rock ventured in the late 80s than any actual funk.
I was actually a bit confused about why you were all citing funk at all til I picked up on the rising lick after the 7. I can see it just about now - the dirty lead get kind of funky around 2:00, there's some Bowie funk kicking in around 2:50. The last 90 seconds are quite cool but they are not funk, Henley's playing is too stiff (though I do like it)
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
let's be clear here, its funky FOR THE EAGLES.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
the handclaps make it. heartache tonight is still my fave beat though.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
would have liked to hear War cover this song. that would have been cool.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
still funkin' shit up in 2013
http://youtu.be/PBrMTrPXHs8
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
"On The Border" is easily one of my favorite Eagles songs. Cool riffs, fantastic utilization of all their voices outside of the usual harmonic context, all the sections work. I know I'll be disappointed when I discover this won't be used in American Hustle 'cause it's too 'on the nose' or something. As ums pointed out, this is also the beginning of cranky politico pundit Henley, who would resurface throughout the rest of the Eagles run, and then fully become his Mr. Hyde in the solo years. I don't hold that against it.
would have liked to hear War cover this song. that would have been cool.― scott seward, Sunday, September 15, 2013 1:30 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― scott seward, Sunday, September 15, 2013 1:30 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Isley Brothers man! Ernie would shred.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 September 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
what's with joe [ walsh] and other guitarists making funny faces when they play?pinoywheelgunner 3 months agoIt's just how it is done. That's all.It is the way of things.StephenRedrobe in reply to pinoywheelgunner 3 months ago
It's just how it is done. That's all.It is the way of things.StephenRedrobe in reply to pinoywheelgunner 3 months ago
Searched for a while for this half-remembered quote xp, lolled when I saw it actually was about these guys. And then I thought *slows down, drops voice* 'well of course it was'.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 September 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Sunday, September 15, 2013 2:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, I was operating on the assumption that this was the subtext of all the funky comments. It was for mine, at least.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, September 15, 2013 3:23 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM. And the Isleys had an amazing track record of re-working mid-70s top 40 hits (cf. "Summer Breeze," "Fire and Rain"); it woulda been cool to hear them tackle some Eagles.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
"let's be clear here, its funky FOR THE EAGLES."
― scott seward, Sunday, September 15, 2013 2:28 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, it's funk in the same way 'Hotel California' kind of does some reggae.
― earlnash, Sunday, 15 September 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
mindblowing
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 September 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
original title for 'hotel california' was 'mexican reggae'
― balls, Sunday, 15 September 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
eagles unheralded inventors of reggaeton.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
Glenn Frey's people are contacting Daddy Yankee about possibly sampling "Chug All Night" even as we speak.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 September 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
"James Dean"
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/icon_watcher/More%20Thumbnails/James_Dean_crash.jpg
http://youtu.be/7guzEuV7j9c
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link
No, no, no. This is appalling.
Releasing this as a single, wtf? That isn't what you do with a song like this - what you do with a song like this is jam it once at a soundtrack then forget about it; if you like it, tape it and learn it, trot it at future soundchecks; then eventually the tape gets around, you can play it as an encore at a fanclub-only show after your reunion, it gets an enthusiastic response. Maybe you can do it again before the next tour. Don't make it a single ffs.
I dunno, it's stuff like this makes me think the only quality control this lot ever did was deciding on a tracklisting for the Greatest Hits.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link
So far I've been surprised at how little I've been irritated by hearing these tracks again. But this is still just lousy: this the cloddish, rotten, stupid Eagles; the meathead Eagles, the pestilent Eagles. I can picture George W. Bush, driving around Midland in '75, knocking back a few cans of Coors, blasting this awful piece of shit while he tailgates someone. God, even the guitars sound hateful.
― col, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
Unmitigated shit. The worst track they ever recorded. Fuck rock music.
Even changing it to Ed Gein doesn't help.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
the AOR template in that intro. an intro that would start a thousand bands. or at the very least 38 Special.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
no offense to 38 Special.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
pseudo-scientific formulae and lots of charts prepared to distill that intro into a radio format. and thus post-1974 the million dollar rock radio game threw out anything that didn't adhere to the formula. no more freeform no more r&b no more nothing that didn't sound like the intro to "james dean".
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
0:00-0:02 are a lot like 0:02-0:04 of Anarchy In The UK, it's not just a template for AOR
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
Apart from this song being irredeemable shit, the drum mix -- that Henley was intent on controlling, hence the break from Glyn Johns -- is so insanely awful. Why is the hi-hat panned hard right? In what physical placement situation would anyone, ever, hear it like that?
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
i'd say the first 24 seconds of the song are a fair representation of what was to come.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
Dear god in heaven this is gross.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
the fade-to-feedback is *also* a template for Anarchy In The UK, what is this?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
one guitar riff in the verses is basically just the Beatles' "Birthday." agree the drum mix is whack, but it's just one of many problems with this turkey
― col, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
it reminds me of country music that i hate. "rockin'" country. did any country people ever cover this song?
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
not that i hate all rockin' country. just a certain type. are you ready for some football rockin' country.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
I like the drum riff during the guitar solo.
Were these guys listening to Skynyrd?
The lyrics are complete garbage.
― Euler, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
It sounds like a forced pseudo-homage. And as with everything else Glenn Frey ever sang, this song would be vastly improved if Ronnie Van Zant was the vocalist, even with the garbage lyrics.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
This is not the template for the sex Pistol cmon. It's gonna be hard enough to wade through all this shit, let's not try sub xhuxk made up stuff
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 September 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
lol this song.
Thread fully pays off with everybody's reactions to James Dean.
― carl agatha, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
"Why is the hi-hat panned hard right? In what physical placement situation would anyone, ever, hear it like that?"
If you are standing directly in front of the kit facing towards the drummer?
― 29 facepalms, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
Not even. This is panned so far right that, as you're facing the kit, your head would have to be where the snare drum is.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
it does make me feel like that in a sense
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
i have never heard this song in my life, but i got to the point where someone says JAYMES DEAN JAYMES DEAN and i started laughing do people like this song?
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
this band continues to baffle me
― call all destroyer, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
so like Henley-Frey to think James Dean is a useful metaphor for, well, anything
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
LL I almost emailed you this a.m. to warn you not to participate in the Eagles thread today for the sake of yr sanity
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
i know one person who heard this song and said EUREKA!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2DBY92CYAAciWB.jpg
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
It's just so VAPIDi have experienced a good amount of monday morning self loathing for even listening to 55 seconds of it. that's as far as i got.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
that is my favorite picture of kenny loggins
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link
I think the Dean obsession was specifically Frey's going back to his years as an asshole child.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
I haven't heard, or even thought about, this song since high school, but yeah this is really a clumsier prototype of "Footloose" isn't it?
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
James DeanJames DeanKick off the Sunday shoes
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
omg it's true
― carl agatha, Monday, 16 September 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link
a low down bad refrigerator
is there some kind of international tribunal at the Hague for crimes against songwriting? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck this song
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
yeah i always think of footloose when i hear this song.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
James DeanJames DeanKick off the Sunday shoes― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, September 16, 2013 10:40 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Lol
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link