original title for 'hotel california' was 'mexican reggae'
― balls, Sunday, 15 September 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
eagles unheralded inventors of reggaeton.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
Glenn Frey's people are contacting Daddy Yankee about possibly sampling "Chug All Night" even as we speak.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 September 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
"James Dean"
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/icon_watcher/More%20Thumbnails/James_Dean_crash.jpg
http://youtu.be/7guzEuV7j9c
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link
No, no, no. This is appalling.
Releasing this as a single, wtf? That isn't what you do with a song like this - what you do with a song like this is jam it once at a soundtrack then forget about it; if you like it, tape it and learn it, trot it at future soundchecks; then eventually the tape gets around, you can play it as an encore at a fanclub-only show after your reunion, it gets an enthusiastic response. Maybe you can do it again before the next tour. Don't make it a single ffs.
I dunno, it's stuff like this makes me think the only quality control this lot ever did was deciding on a tracklisting for the Greatest Hits.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link
So far I've been surprised at how little I've been irritated by hearing these tracks again. But this is still just lousy: this the cloddish, rotten, stupid Eagles; the meathead Eagles, the pestilent Eagles. I can picture George W. Bush, driving around Midland in '75, knocking back a few cans of Coors, blasting this awful piece of shit while he tailgates someone. God, even the guitars sound hateful.
― col, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
Unmitigated shit. The worst track they ever recorded. Fuck rock music.
Even changing it to Ed Gein doesn't help.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
the AOR template in that intro. an intro that would start a thousand bands. or at the very least 38 Special.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
no offense to 38 Special.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
pseudo-scientific formulae and lots of charts prepared to distill that intro into a radio format. and thus post-1974 the million dollar rock radio game threw out anything that didn't adhere to the formula. no more freeform no more r&b no more nothing that didn't sound like the intro to "james dean".
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
0:00-0:02 are a lot like 0:02-0:04 of Anarchy In The UK, it's not just a template for AOR
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
Apart from this song being irredeemable shit, the drum mix -- that Henley was intent on controlling, hence the break from Glyn Johns -- is so insanely awful. Why is the hi-hat panned hard right? In what physical placement situation would anyone, ever, hear it like that?
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
i'd say the first 24 seconds of the song are a fair representation of what was to come.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
Dear god in heaven this is gross.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
the fade-to-feedback is *also* a template for Anarchy In The UK, what is this?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
one guitar riff in the verses is basically just the Beatles' "Birthday." agree the drum mix is whack, but it's just one of many problems with this turkey
― col, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
it reminds me of country music that i hate. "rockin'" country. did any country people ever cover this song?
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
not that i hate all rockin' country. just a certain type. are you ready for some football rockin' country.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
I like the drum riff during the guitar solo.
Were these guys listening to Skynyrd?
The lyrics are complete garbage.
― Euler, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
It sounds like a forced pseudo-homage. And as with everything else Glenn Frey ever sang, this song would be vastly improved if Ronnie Van Zant was the vocalist, even with the garbage lyrics.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
This is not the template for the sex Pistol cmon. It's gonna be hard enough to wade through all this shit, let's not try sub xhuxk made up stuff
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 September 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
lol this song.
Thread fully pays off with everybody's reactions to James Dean.
― carl agatha, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
"Why is the hi-hat panned hard right? In what physical placement situation would anyone, ever, hear it like that?"
If you are standing directly in front of the kit facing towards the drummer?
― 29 facepalms, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
Not even. This is panned so far right that, as you're facing the kit, your head would have to be where the snare drum is.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
it does make me feel like that in a sense
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
i have never heard this song in my life, but i got to the point where someone says JAYMES DEAN JAYMES DEAN and i started laughing do people like this song?
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
this band continues to baffle me
― call all destroyer, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
so like Henley-Frey to think James Dean is a useful metaphor for, well, anything
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
LL I almost emailed you this a.m. to warn you not to participate in the Eagles thread today for the sake of yr sanity
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
i know one person who heard this song and said EUREKA!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2DBY92CYAAciWB.jpg
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
It's just so VAPIDi have experienced a good amount of monday morning self loathing for even listening to 55 seconds of it. that's as far as i got.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
that is my favorite picture of kenny loggins
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link
I think the Dean obsession was specifically Frey's going back to his years as an asshole child.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
I haven't heard, or even thought about, this song since high school, but yeah this is really a clumsier prototype of "Footloose" isn't it?
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
James DeanJames DeanKick off the Sunday shoes
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
omg it's true
― carl agatha, Monday, 16 September 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link
a low down bad refrigerator
is there some kind of international tribunal at the Hague for crimes against songwriting? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck this song
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
yeah i always think of footloose when i hear this song.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
James DeanJames DeanKick off the Sunday shoes― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, September 16, 2013 10:40 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Lol
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
1974 was a pretty big year for not getting the 1950's.
― Brad C., Monday, 16 September 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link
haha otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
I don't know if I can say thanks for this, but I spent the last 5 min with
everybody cut every body cut everybody cut every body cut everybody cut every body cuteverybody cut every body cutED GEIN!
worst weird al song ever
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
(xpost) Wow, yeah Happy Days debuted in 1974 too. Coincidence, or...
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Loool LL
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Reading about this song I thought I'd never heard it, but then I played it and it was like ooooooh, right, this thing. If I don't hear it for another 20 years maybe I can go back to thinking I've never heard it.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
I'm not even sure I ever knew it was the Eagles. It would pop up late at night on the rawk radio.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link
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― pplains, Monday, 16 September 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
Always thought this was more a rip-off of Ballad of John & Yoko.
― pplains, Monday, 16 September 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
I think I tolerate this one more than the rest of you guys. It's just too cheesy to fully hate (see also "Crocodile Rock" and, well, I did start this thread years ago Tributes to 50s Rock’n’Roll and Doo Wop by Rockers form the late 60s and early 70s (A List)).
Glenn & Don from the Crowe interview:
JAMES DEANGLENN: Again, all from that same night when we’d gone to see Tim Hardin. As Desperado became a concept album with an Old West theme, “James Dean” got shelved. When it came time to do On the Border, we got “James Dean” right off the shelf and said, “Let’s finish this.” I always thought the best line in “James Dean” was “I know my life would look alright if I could see it on the silver screen.” You just don’t get to do that.DON: I sat there and listened to the guys talk about James Dean. They had evidently studied him and knew much more about him than I did. I had seen most of Dean’s movies, but I somehow missed the whole icon thing. The mythology never quite reached my part of East Texas, but I pitched in and ended up with a writing credit — although the song was mostly Jackson’s, I think.
DON: I sat there and listened to the guys talk about James Dean. They had evidently studied him and knew much more about him than I did. I had seen most of Dean’s movies, but I somehow missed the whole icon thing. The mythology never quite reached my part of East Texas, but I pitched in and ended up with a writing credit — although the song was mostly Jackson’s, I think.
I like how Henley doesn't 'get' James Dean, despite seeing "most of (his) movies". Dude, there's only three--which one'd you miss? FWIW, PBS used to show a doc about the making of Giant that the Don-ster narrated.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 September 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link
I sat there and listened to the guys talk about James Dean. lolthey're total airheads
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link