i certainly don't see what makes them superior to the production on this record
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
imo everything is just tighter ... less meandering
katherine's tumblr post on this was really good
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
d, i'll respond to this when i have more time. just wanted to say i'm not ignoring your question.
― I make $94k Based God (rennavate), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
Yes! What she said about "Hold On..." is what I tried to say last night. It's such a stupid song, lacking any of Drake's "self-awareness" or whatever.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
lot of great pop songs are stupid though
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:48 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinklink?
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
oh hi
a) thanks!
b) http://katherinestasaph.tumblr.com/post/61597928034/some-scattered-thoughts-on-the-drake-album-and-women
c) (anything stupid said in this post is due to writing it at like 2 a.m. with a neck cramp. this is my story that I am sticking to etc)
― katherine, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
hah i wasn't sure if linking to it would be cool or not. but yeah, really good
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S
yes but this pop song asks us to feel sympathy for the hero saying overwrought, masochistic twaddle about his relationship
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
tbh it would be better if it were at all masochistic
― katherine, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
"Endlessly, I can't get over you/You left your mark on me" sounds masochistic to me
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
ennhh, just sounds like generic pickup-line flattery
― katherine, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
oh man you mention the GTA V review "fallout" which made me swear this is my last year in the fuckin' game.
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
great piece katherine.
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
yah
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
I like this album a lot, but ultimately I'm probably filing this away in the Late Registration/Amnesiac/Neon Bible folder of really good, not-quite-great albums that don't do quite enough to distinguish themselves from their predecessors so they can't quite escape the shadow of the album that came before them
― Evan R, Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:43 (eleven years ago) link
i can't wrap my head around the idea that late registration isn't distinguished from college dropout
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:12 (eleven years ago) link
Probably stupid of me to open up another Late Registration debate, especially since I do love that album. But ultimately I think of it mostly as a continuation of College Dropout, expanding on the same ideas. It adds some new tweaks and offers some amazing standouts, but doesn't break radically from what came before it. It's not an 808s or a Yeezus.
― Evan R, Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:17 (eleven years ago) link
i prefer LR but i don't object to the idea. he practically asked for his 2nd and 3rd albums to be thought of that way with their titles.
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:21 (eleven years ago) link
same way Drake was practically asking for obvious jokes by making another Drake album and calling it Nothing Was The Same
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:23 (eleven years ago) link
lol the ideal rapgenius artist
― Pope Cuddlestein (symsymsym), Thursday, 19 September 2013 08:00 (eleven years ago) link
excellent stuff as ever, katherine. (can someone explain the GTA thing to me quickly? video games are so far off my radar i don't even know what they look like.)
But I don’t have Drake feelings; to me they’re almost a red flag. If someone tells me he relates to women the way Drake would, I would be rather put off.
POW
― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 September 2013 08:11 (eleven years ago) link
bonus pts for the "matte black truck" mention obv
the other thing i liked about that reminder is kalenna presaging the wu tang glomming
― r|t|c, Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:43 (eleven years ago) link
i'm listening to this now and i physically shuddered at "girl don't treat me like a stranger, girl you know i seen you naked" pathetic attempt at power play. this dude is gross
― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:49 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not being an original here but ugh, massive cringe at the 'Courtney from Hooters on Peachtree' line.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 20 September 2013 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
Drake and Courtney, in happier times before she flew back to her tree
http://cdn2.wordonroad.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/drakeowll2.jpg
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Friday, 20 September 2013 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha i was just coming in to say this seems like a total New Jersey
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 September 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link
does drake seem like he'd rock an inappropriate fedora while telling you he's a nice guy
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Friday, 20 September 2013 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
http://cdn.rap-up.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/drake-vma-2.jpg
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Friday, 20 September 2013 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
that XXL poster needs to be on a huge billboard in Toronto
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 20 September 2013 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
been singin "motherfuckkas never love us" all weekend, dope hook
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 22 September 2013 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
drake was just on espn talking abt his friendship w/ johnny manziel or something idk the sound was off in the deli
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
this dude is the most insufferable thing
― You are kind, I am jerkface (DJP), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
^
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
Had this on while doing work this morning, and only got to a little passed "Hold On, We're Going Home," so obviously it deserves and will soon get a much closer listening from me, but I was honestly finding it pretty dull. Don't know if the criticisms lodged against him (I believe the excellent Katherine St. Asaph piece was linked somewhere above, though I don't think that Alfred's response, which I'm naturally sympathetic with, was) are finally starting to sink in with me, or if this is just a sonically less interesting than the last two (impeccably sounding, at the very least) albums, but I'm not very anxious to give this more attention.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of like "Hold On, We're Going Home" in spite of its Draking Problems. Not proud. Not ashamed.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
i like this album way better than any of his others. his persona still grates, for me, but outside of him becoming a completely different person, this musically is a lot less frustrating to me than his earlier stuff
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
My view on Drake (and mainly, Take Care) is that he is from a completely different universe from mine, not one I want to be in, but one I feel compelled to peek in from time to time. However, NWTS's production bores me and it's one those cases where I wont patient enough to let it grow on me, I'll just go back to Lord Knows.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
the production on here is so much better & less gauche than on 'take care'
imo
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
I wish '5 am in Toronto' was on it, really. I like that song better than any on NWTS.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
^^
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BU8w7B4CcAAiZyP.jpg
― I make $94k Based God (rennavate), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
ha
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
http://theshadowleague.com/articles/drake-officially-shut-hip-hop-s-door-on-gen-x-with-nwts
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
Let a hundred Drake songs bloom and crush your head
http://www.stereogum.com/1489451/the-drakeography-the-100-best-drake-songs/franchises/listomania/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
stop that!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
there are 100 drake songs
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
need to sit down.
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:27 (eleven years ago) link