Now that's just going too far.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
"my song 5" is a way less good version of "send me down" but i'm still down with it
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
oh man, pretty poison. it's 1987 all over again! were the haim girls even born then? not that this would invalidate their tastes.
i'm going to post this just cos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v8YragSIuI
haim's lyrics kind of remind me of this stuff, too
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
but yeah, there's no getting around that they've probably worn their copies of mirage and tango in the night down to nothing
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
were the haim girls even born then? not that this would invalidate their tastes.
i interviewed alana about this point specifically and i think a lot of it is unconscious reverberations that this stuff possibly had in late-'90s r&b?
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
I've been waiting years for Tango in the Night to displace Rumours in the influence department.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:11 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you mean they're picking it up 2nd hand? that doesn't seem possible. anxiety of influence maybe?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I dunno, the period details of the Haim music is so OTM that it has to be more than osmosis at work.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
i agree! it's just i didn't get much out of going that direction in the interview. who knows
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
they might just be sick of FM comparisons/questions, or anxious about being too close to their influences
but yeah they seem to have gone to some lengths to replicate certain sounds so the naïve line rings kind of hollow
unless it's like the monkeys writing shakespeare thing, where they just some ended up in this "tango in the night" space without ever having heard any pop music whatsoever
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
that would be the bomb
Man, how much would that suck, if you were a band and you stumbled on this awesome, awesome sound, and then someone passes you a copy of "Tango in the NIght" and you deflate once you realize that's exactly what you sound like. I mean, it would be awesome, of course! But it'd still be a bummer.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
xp i guess you are trying to say you don't connect with either haim or savages? i just don't see how they are comparable groups
other than they have wymmyn with guitars in
― monotony, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:00 (Yesterday) Bookmark
i was merely referring to and concurring with the commonplace assertion that both bands are pretty dead-end pastichey. hopefully this transmission reaches you over on planet duh
― r|t|c, Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
if I stumbled into sounding like "Seven Wonders" I'd force my manager to buy me an expensive dinner.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think Haim is that pastichey, in the end, esp. compared (for some reason) to Savages, who are truly A+B+C=exactly the sum of its parts.
Was Cut Copy the first on the '80s Mac tip?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
Haim's songwriting is pastichey as hell but the production is full of shiny modern details. Savages are about as rote as they come.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
"My Song 5" isn't one of the best songs here but it has a sinister creep to it that I find very satisfying.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
"Take Me Over" is more than inspired. It's copied.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
ok m8 no need to get snarky
fwiw i'd agree with Matt DC in that HAIM represents a confluence of disparate influences whereas savages are more, like, explicitly drawing just from the one scene
― monotony, Thursday, 19 September 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
"take me over" is also very men at work in addition to being very FM
i was way more into the remixes than the originals as stand-alone songs but packaged together as an album i'm enjoying it quite a bit
― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 20 September 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah the Duke Dumont remix of Falling is transcendent.
― Matt DC, Friday, 20 September 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
heard club remixes of 'don't save me' quite a bit while out this summer, very good jam that i approve of
― 乒乓, Friday, 20 September 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
when is the lissvik mix of send me down gonna officially come out is my question
― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 20 September 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
idg people who don't think the tunes are up to par. This is the catchiest set of songs I've heard since, I dunno...4?
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 September 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
since you were four
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 September 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
What can I say? Poison was that damn good.
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 September 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
if it gets rough, it's time to get ruFFFFFFFFF
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 September 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
"my honey and i" is sounding real good this morning. hard to imagine another contemporary band coming up with something like this.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 21 September 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
holy shit @ the title track!
― piscesx, Monday, 23 September 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
thanks much for having me relisten to "point of no return" for the first time in over a decade
― erect, sporadic, notorious, genitals (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
now listen to a Nu Shooz/Nicks "I Can't Wait" mashup.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
last night i watched haim interviews on youtube for about 2 hours
the story of them writing "days are gone" with jessie ware was pretty kewt
― monotony, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
didn't know they cowrote it!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
They're so personable! It's probably linked above somewhere, but the Nardwuar interview is cute: http://youtu.be/FmOEKvcASB4
― Dan I., Tuesday, 24 September 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
oops yeah it def is above, why didn't i ctl+F
― Dan I., Tuesday, 24 September 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
I love that they made (?) hats
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
I've p much listened to this album 1-3 times a day since it leaked.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 26 September 2013 06:59 (eleven years ago) link
if the singles left me cold (didn't hate just didn't care) is there any point in giving the album a go? i have limited time right now
― lex pretend, Thursday, 26 September 2013 07:28 (eleven years ago) link
There would be worse ways to spend 40 mins. That said, I can't imagine this bring particularly lex-ian save for the title track.
― monotony, Thursday, 26 September 2013 09:08 (eleven years ago) link
Being*, oops.
― monotony, Thursday, 26 September 2013 09:09 (eleven years ago) link
Given that you like Tango In The Night-era Fleetwood Mac I'd be quite surprised if you couldn't find something to like in this, but then again I'm really surprised you don't like Falling.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 26 September 2013 09:09 (eleven years ago) link
lex, I could see you liking "If I Could Change Your Mind" or "Days Are Gone" if anything on here
― The Reverend, Thursday, 26 September 2013 09:10 (eleven years ago) link
just listened to the first half of this again on the way home from uni, very nearly danced down the metro platform to "if i could change your mIIIIiiiiiiiiiIIiiind"
― monotony, Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:48 (eleven years ago) link
i listened to it. there's nothing WRONG with it i guess but it's sooooooo pastichey, like there is literally no modern twist on a very old sound, and i don't think i have quite enough affection for that sound to have a connection to something that just replicates it - it's so exact that it almost seems automated, all the little hiccups of breath and melody exactly where you expect them.
also tbqh my fleetwood mac/stevie nicks knowledge has a long way to go - i only really know rumours and tusk and a handful of other songs - and i'd rather carry on gradually investigating them
― lex pretend, Thursday, 26 September 2013 11:00 (eleven years ago) link
all the little hiccups of breath and melody exactly where you expect them.
one of the things i like best about the album is danielle's surprisingly weird vocal tics and the way she constantly plays with meter, elongating and suffocating words etc - i suppose you could say you expect her to do that by the last few tracks, but she certainly doesn't have a conventional vocal delivery to my ears
lex you gotta hear tango in the night!
― monotony, Thursday, 26 September 2013 11:14 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I don't see anything predictable about Danielle's choices - the way her voice keeps changing through a song like Don't Save Me is my favourite thing about the band.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 26 September 2013 11:28 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like the vocalist could actually be foregrounded more - didn't get much of a sense of her personality at all. i didn't find anything particularly weird about her delivery though.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 26 September 2013 11:35 (eleven years ago) link
There are three vocalists, although two of them sound pretty similar because y'know sisters.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 26 September 2013 11:36 (eleven years ago) link
Srsly though the idea that Lex went to Tusk before Tango In The Night is kind of hilarious but really you should listen to the latter immediately and forget about this Haim album for a bit.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 26 September 2013 11:38 (eleven years ago) link