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still good fun.

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:41 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

i agree with this just ftr

r|t|c, Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link

They sound like a really good young contemporary version of a late '80s pop outfit like Wilson-Phillips. The Mac element is being a tad overstated here, as is the future-genius of "Tango," which is one of my fave records, Mac or otherwise, but definitely in line with what Lindsey was up to at the time courtesy new technology/samplers and def. in line what he's still up to today. This HAIM is nowhere near that frantic/frenetic/anal retentive. Credit different drugs, perhaps.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

or no drugs

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, that too!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

What HAIM needs is overwhelming paranoid and control-freak tendencies fueled by swimming pools full of cocaine.

In other words, they need to have Lindsey Buckingham produce them, for old time's sake.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link

well, he's on the NIN album. Maybe he's in session mode again.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

blah blah late pass i really like this band

call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link

Shit, now I feel like a shmuck seeing that DeRo also compared it to Wilson Phillips. But I didn't mean it as a criticism!

Haim, Days Are Gone (Polydor)

Has indie-rock seriously gotten so twee and “poptimistic” that it can hail as a buzz band a California trio aiming at a modern update of Fleetwood Mac as distaff beard-rock but barely achieving a less polished version of Wilson Phillips? Really?

Rating on the four-star scale: .5 stars.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link

"distaff beard-rock"!

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link

Does anyone actually use the terms 'poptimist' or 'poptimistic' for anything other than handwringing purposes?

Matt DC, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

I already loved this album but DeRo being a prick about it makes me want to gold-plate it and wear it around my neck. Good use of scare quotes, asshole.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

wilson phillips? i've heard wilson phillips, i saw wilson phillips live just one calendar year ago, and this is no wilson phillips

goole, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link

I'd seriously die if Haim covered "Impulsive" though.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link

I already loved this album but DeRo being a prick about it makes me want to gold-plate it and wear it around my neck. Good use of scare quotes, asshole.

^this

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 26 September 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

did this guy just stay in 1994 permanently or

call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 September 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link

also i had to look up distaff and i'm pretty confused now

call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 September 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link

I had to look it up the first time I saw it in an album review. I get that writers want a synonym for "female" but a word based on the idea of a woman's job being spinning seems a tad archaic.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 26 September 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

haha i think that might be the most inchoately splenetic use of the p-word i've ever seen

r|t|c, Thursday, 26 September 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link

Haim are basically motivated by the same eternal indie rock impulse as Wilco circa Summer Teeth only brought forward two decades. As with all dumb music critics dero has no capacity to abstract away from specific stylistic cues.

Tim F, Thursday, 26 September 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link

Yeah. OTM.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link

Fuck that guy and his misplaced contrarianism.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link

serious question: does he have a Chicago following?

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 September 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link

lol I was trying to remember who I had UNfavorably compared to wilson philips recently, turns out it was Fun.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 September 2013 00:34 (ten years ago) link

DeRo? I don't know if he has a following, per se, but he's well liked enough. I mean, if you read the comments on the NPR site and on his Facebook page, people tend to take him seriously. He's also capable of being reasonable, but that rarely comes out in print. It's just so easy to take the contrarian dismissive stance, because it's so much easier/more attention-getting to take something down than praise something.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 September 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link

I get why someone attached to his views of rock would hate Haim, I'm just glad I'm not attached to those views

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 September 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link

i'm surprised he did not get something in there about how you should listen to the cellar-aged post punk of SAVAGES instead

call all destroyer, Friday, 27 September 2013 01:10 (ten years ago) link

Tim otm. Make it three brothers instead of sisters and rub off a little of the production gloss and DeRo would be all over this.

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 27 September 2013 08:25 (ten years ago) link

Eh, the guy's pretty useless, but I don't think this is accurate at all. If anything, DeRo tends to rate rock bands with women in it higher, because, OMG, finally, ladies playing rock. And he severely underrates pop, because, OMG, ladies playing pop, but not the kind of pop this guy thinks they should be making, they should be ashamed of being ladies.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 September 2013 12:43 (ten years ago) link

lol distaff beard-rock appears to have been stricken from his blog

call all destroyer, Friday, 27 September 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

dude loves donut rock

you are kind, I am (waterface), Friday, 27 September 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

damn every time someone criticises this band i like them a bit more, wtf is wrong with me

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 September 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

er the band i mean

r|t|c, Saturday, 28 September 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

More interesting to me than boring old dudes is the probable double-standard w/r/t dance music - Lindstrom strikes me as no less pastichey than Haim by and large (and the Lindstrom/Christabelle album is one of the few obvious precursors to what they're doing here, at least in part) though obviously over the course of his career he's covered a lot more pastiche-ground, but it's not a criticism that tends to come up - like, we all know it but it's not something that tends to worry people.

Tim F, Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link

Also I think Haim could stand to sound more like Shania Twain to be honest.

Tim F, Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link

Give 'em time! They're young!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 September 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link

So it's pronounced HIME? I did not know that until tonight.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 28 September 2013 02:25 (ten years ago) link

"If I Could Change Your Mind" has squatted in my brain for the last week and refuses to leave. Help!

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2013 02:26 (ten years ago) link

super super technically it's "HI-yem" but the accepted baseline pronunciation is indeed "hime"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 September 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link

Dad was Israeli. Name is Hebrew for "life."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 September 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link

Sloppy typo on the back of the CD cover

http://i.imgur.com/DOWU6fk.jpg

nate woolls, Saturday, 28 September 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

Is that the commercial release or a review copy?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 September 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link

Commercial

nate woolls, Saturday, 28 September 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

Oooh, like l'chaim. I get it.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 28 September 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

i'm probably five years too late in thinking it's weird that bands release deluxe editions simultaneously with the official release, right?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 September 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link

yeah. but i feel you.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 29 September 2013 04:58 (ten years ago) link

good stuff on the bonus disc btw (send me down might be their most forward-looking song?), but even more good stuff on youtube.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 29 September 2013 04:58 (ten years ago) link

Dad was Israeli. Name is Hebrew for "life."

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:59 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think they chose the name because it's their last name, not because of the meaning.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Sunday, 29 September 2013 05:01 (ten years ago) link

is this out yet

Geoffrey Schweppes (jaymc), Sunday, 29 September 2013 05:15 (ten years ago) link

Monday.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 29 September 2013 05:42 (ten years ago) link


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