808 State - C/D

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I was bumping Utd State 90 a week and a half ago and it's startling how that album still feels urgent and fresh everytime I hear it. The transition from "Pacific" to "Boneyween" is one of the greatest things ever.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link

God, Ex:el is so brilliant. Somehow I managed to see them three times in their heyday.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link

one thing that annoys me about Ex:El is the slight cross-fading of tracks - some of them start just before the previous track has finished.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I owe 808 State for uncorking the deep mysteries of Bernard Sumner.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw them three times, too! So awesome.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

kinda wish i hadn't sold newbuild

am0n, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

wotever happened to Martin Price?...and is Eastern Bloc Records still going?

henry s, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

saw them twice in the same week with Meat Beat Manifesto.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

only saw them twice ever, around 97/98. the 'Don Solaris' tracks sounded a lot better live at least, esp. 'Balboa'.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw them at 2 different festivals that i can recall. one just after ex:el and one around don solaris. i have a feeling i'd seen them a 3rd time, but no real proof

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm really liking newbuild right now, having never given 808 state much of a chance. "compulsion" is especially nice. what should i try next?

andrew m., Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

A Guy Called Gerald - Automannik

henry s, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I still hold "Voodoo Ray" as superior to anything 808 ever did.

Stevie D, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...

random q - anyone got an emailable copy of the only rhyme that bites? need it for a gig tonight...

CharlieNo4, Sunday, 26 August 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Apparently TOMBOT THE MENTALIST hates "Pacific"!

HI DERE, Monday, 10 December 2007 22:46 (sixteen years ago) link

That's like hating oxygen.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 10 December 2007 22:57 (sixteen years ago) link

when I compared it to the OG mixes of Strings Of Life it should probably be noted that both these tracks are things I was reading about online and in magazines before I actually acquired my own copies to listen to - sort of like with SAWII, there was this massive hype revolving around the tracks, then I heard them, and was like "lol what, I guess this is the problem of being into dance music but not having access to a big druggy club scene or something"

El Tomboto, Monday, 10 December 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I read an article about 808 State in 1990 and bought Utd State 90 as a leap of faith. "Pacific 202" was an instant winner for me.

HI DERE, Monday, 10 December 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah with SoL and Pacific I was nearly a decade late to the party. Next to everything else I was getting at the time it was very "wtf nice keyboard presets, doofs"

El Tomboto, Monday, 10 December 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

They both probably directly inspired everything else you were getting at the time tho.

blueski, Monday, 10 December 2007 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link

btw i think the riff was played with a WX5 not bullshit sax

Massey mimes poorly/amusingly with it (or what looks like it) here

blueski, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link

yamaha's wind synth with the sax patch totally qualifies as "bullshit sax"

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:16 (sixteen years ago) link

that youtube clip is amazing and great, though

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Aren't they rereleasing all the early stuff?

Does this mean one ought to divest one of one's "Creed Records" (State 2, 3 & 4) collection?! sum nice wax dere.

Saxby D. Elder, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link

It seems like the other elements in Pacific would have more impact if they were introduced a little less quickly.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Er, Flow Coma is a no-brainer, right?

-- Lukas (lukas), Thursday, April 3, 2003 11:48 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

Four years later I'm still the only one repping for Flow Coma? Ok guys is this a prank?

lukas, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link

it just seems too much a copy of Phuture, Laurent X etc.

blueski, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 12:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm still waiting ever-so-impatiently for that damn Quadrastate reissue.

I'm telling you.... 808 State boxset...

Stevie D, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 12:27 (sixteen years ago) link

on Discogs, Gerald takes most of the credit for the Quadrastate version of Pacific but was not involved in any of then other tracks (which I've never heard except a bit of '106' from the State To State CD years later). How different is this from the one that charted a year later? Presumably not much but would like to know exactly who did what out of Simpson, Price and Massey on this track once and for all.

blueski, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 12:40 (sixteen years ago) link

"Pacific Break"??? Anyone have it?

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link

the big chords underneath everything definitely seems to have gerald simpson written all over them

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

you know what tracks never get mentioned enough, are "Donkey Doctor" and "Cobra Bora"

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

also Don Solaris is massively underrated

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZX1kyKCvQY&feature=related

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Ex:el is one of my desert island discs.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv8BOkV4l8U&feature=related

It's amazing how directly these guys spoke to my id.

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0yu2HmPfsU&feature=related

basically this track is everything I wish "Lift" was

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll raise you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykIA2ddd8Bo

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

unambiguously one of the greatest songs ever recorded

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

such a massive, monstrous, bludgeoning song

if you can't get your head knocked around by those bass subs and that beat, you really are dead inside

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

sometimes I think this song is the justification of the ride cymbal

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS2hOFNWqPY

I remember vividly hearing this for the first time in 1990 and basically being like "YES ALL MUSIC SHOULD SOUND LIKE THIS"

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, there are a lot of people on this thread with absolutely terrible taste in electronic music.

Gerald Simpson was the only member of 808 State with any talent and they never did anything worth listening to after he left. GS had a great post-808 solo career, while they just carried on with utterly half-baked funkless dreck.

casanova808, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

808:90 is great — EX:EL is okay, kind of boring

=(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

in what universe is it impossible to like both A Guy Called Gerald and 808 State

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, they aren't that freakin' different

=(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

also lol @ randomers first post saying everyone has bad taste, good start

=(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

If you're looking for funk, clearly you aren't looking for 808 State, whose entire steez is built around taking mechanized stomp to the most emotional place possible; the entire point is that they are finding emotion in stiff rigidity and you kind of have to be trying to miss that.

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Then again, I was once emotionally 18 so I really shouldn't be too hard on the little guy with the ironic name.

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Gorgeous is a great album.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yes everything from newbuild to gorgeous is great!

xzanfar, Monday, 8 November 2021 00:36 (two years ago) link

utd state 90 is the best after newbuild before exel

xzanfar, Monday, 8 November 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link

sad news. he used to work in eastern bloc in manchester circa 1990 when he was half of the spinmasters dj crew with darren partington. i used to buy records over the phone from eastern bloc. i'd phone up once a week and he'd play the latest belgian imports over the phone and i'd buy some, which nowadays seems an insane way to do record shopping. anyway, he was a lovely guy and would always refer to a particularly great belgian techno 12" as a "stormtrooper". i always got a kick out of that. gone too soon!

stirmonster, Monday, 8 November 2021 02:40 (two years ago) link

I saw them supported by K Klass and MC Tunes at Sheffield Octagon in '90 and was tripping at the time and it was a fun stupid night. Never really rated them that highly tbh but that memory was good!

calzino, Monday, 8 November 2021 03:27 (two years ago) link

Love that, stirmonster

They just finished a short UK tour as well. FFS only 53

nashwan, Monday, 8 November 2021 09:33 (two years ago) link


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