― hstencil, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― simon trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
i haven't heard much m.o.m, i tried to get into idiology at the cd store listening post but it wasn't happenin'
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
< /trife >
― hstencil, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― simon trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mario 3 (mario), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 21:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 23:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
hahahahahahaha. Personally, I haven't heard any electronic music that's come as close to being as rhythmically advanced/interesting/bad-ass as Autechre (see: the second track on Peel Sessions 2, much of Confield & Chiastic Slide, Gantz Graf).
I also think they have some very nice melodies, though often not at the same time as the hardcore rhythmic stuff.
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 14:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:56 (twenty years ago) link
― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:56 (twenty years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:58 (twenty years ago) link
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― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:04 (twenty years ago) link
― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:31 (twenty years ago) link
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:39 (twenty years ago) link
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:40 (twenty years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:44 (twenty years ago) link
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:49 (twenty years ago) link
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 21:19 (twenty years ago) link
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link
To be honest it's also what's driven me away, I'm with the above poster on buying practically everything over the last decade or so, but in my case I'm ready for a change. All I ask is one handraiser, one well-arranged piece of mayhem that can hold my attention for more than half a minute or so, and since we're talking about an album, no more of the filler that made idiology such a disappointment by the third or fourth listen.
Who are the vocalists?
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:35 (twenty years ago) link
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:42 (twenty years ago) link
I loved the first two tracks on 'Idiology'... it came out so quickly after 'Niun', and so many of the tracks were so crazy / sloppy that I just took that album as a fun transitional blowing-off-of-steam from (which they obviously slaved over) and I didn't hold it against them.
This new one though, it's a statement...
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:44 (twenty years ago) link
blowing-off-of-stream from the previous record (which they obviously slaved over)
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:45 (twenty years ago) link
― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 07:11 (twenty years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 13:19 (twenty years ago) link
Got the new one today. reactions from those who have it already? "Instrumentals" bores me a bit tbh, but "Rost Pocks" & "Idiology" are fab. One of those acts where I'm actually wary of hearing more of their records in case they don't match up to the same standard.
Mmmm "Send Me Shivers" is doing it for me at the moment :)
Subtly processed female vocals = big weakness of mine, I don't really enjoy Sophie Rimheden though, but adore Ellen Allien. Should I really be buying disco records?
― ruffle bar (grumpy_bastard), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 08:32 (twenty years ago) link
MoM are as bad as Autechre for zero-critical-agreement on what is their best work. I'll probably try 'Glam' next I think.
This one is such a dissapointment. I think I'm going to sell it.
― i contribute something on ilm?? (i lurk on ilm), Friday, 15 October 2004 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Search
Rost PocksIdiologyInstrumentalsVulvalandNiun Niggung
find/download - 'Untitled States Of'
Destroy
Radical Connector
(Yet to hear 'Autoditacker'& not too bothered tbh, want to hear 'Glam' eventually. Probably sleeping on Iaora Tahiti unfairly).
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amon (eman), Saturday, 30 April 2005 01:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Radical Connector is one of the best records of the last 10 years. Thank fuck it doesn't sound like you think it should.
― Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Saturday, 30 April 2005 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I love MOM usually, I just happened to find it a predictable and sonically boring record.
I'm intrigued you have such a strong reaction though. Care to defend it some more? I'd be interested to read another perspective on it, I didn't find the reviews at the time hugely englightening.
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm sorry I don't know your history :-/ I can understand your ire if that's what you thought I was saying.
I don't think it was a huge change of direction was it? It just didn't work for me very well YMMV obviously. 'Predictable' only in regards to their previous work. From anyone else, far from it.
I just heard that mp3 and the structures reminded me vaguely of Idiology + playfully odd hip-hop over the top. It sounded 'fun' and inventive (and funky) similar to how I'd expected RC might have been. I hadn't imagined any specific sound or linear 'progression' like that, they don't do much of that do they? :-)
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
and Sonny, I'm pretty certain there are plenty of worse directions they could have gone. freak folk fer instance ? jeez, so melodramatic.
pity MoM, such asinine 'fans'.
― Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Saturday, 30 April 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
I only meant the final product sounded un-comfortable (stilted, forced, 'meta', the most 'IDM' (in a bad way) record they've done).
I'm sure they had a blast making it but it didn't come across in the finished product for me. Which is most untypical.
Maybe I am projecting, who really knows? I didn't however come here to continue slagging it off in some "me right/you wrong" fashion.
That said, I'm obviously not stimulating much in the way of meaningful conversation about it either so I guess I'll leave it!
Thanks for the reply upthread btw. What is your 'history' here in a nutshell, or a link? curious.
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 30 April 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
But all this seemed to mean was smoothing away the most jarring, spastic edges in their music, incorporate more 'pop' conventional funk rhythms & plain verse-chorus-verse structures. Even the best tracks like the one with Niobe on just didn't go anywhere, compared to their usual ever-shifting tunes.
As for previous work there are vocals on - Actionist Respoke, Doit, Die Seele Von Brian Wilson, Cache Coeur Naif, Schnick-schnack for starters.
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link
its streaming in 20 minutes:
https://mouseonmars.bandcamp.com/live/bilk-listening-party
― frogbs, Monday, 25 September 2023 17:38 (eleven months ago) link
really enjoying thise
― what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Monday, 25 September 2023 18:16 (eleven months ago) link
yeah its really nice. second half so far even better than the first
― frogbs, Monday, 25 September 2023 18:25 (eleven months ago) link
Bilk is now on streaming services. I am really struggling to accept that it is from 1994; also it is amazing.
― Tim F, Thursday, 8 August 2024 07:15 (one month ago) link
hell yeah, thanks for the heads up, this rules
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 15 August 2024 17:05 (one month ago) link