"Sounds like Fleetwood Mac" is pretty reductive. Clearly influenced by Fleetwood Mac and a ton of other stuff, yes. Bottom line is they consistently write better songs than any of the other bands you're referring to - only Chairlift come close imo and, as noted upthread, they're on an artier tip.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:18 (ten years ago) link
http://www.collapseboard.com/reviews/albums-reviews/haim-days-are-gone-columbia/
However, if you’re someone over the age of 23 who professes to care about music and you buy this album, you should be ashamed of yourself. Grow the fuck up. Remaining a child all your life is nothing to be proud of.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:20 (ten years ago) link
I'll see how it settles in, I don't really feel like the songs are better, I reckon the El Perro Del Mar record is better than this, but I may just be incapable of liking a record I feel like I'll hear at every social occasion ever for god... three to four weeks at least.
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― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:20 (ten years ago) link
This is nothing like El Perro Del Mar though.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:26 (ten years ago) link
I love that El Perro Del Mar record but it's going for a very different atmosphere, more hazy, more horizontal, kind of Balearic Julee Cruise vibe. There are similarities in the source material but the treatment is completely different to any Lissvik produced project really, the Haim album is a straight-up pop record.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:28 (ten years ago) link
Yeah these are proper, sturdy, radio-friendly pop songs, not the kind of fuzzy platonic-ideal pop that the Balearic crew produce.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:30 (ten years ago) link
i mean the 2009 epdm btw, more than pale fire.
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:30 (ten years ago) link
I just feel like the rhythmic approach is very different to say Lissvik productions. I described it elsewhere as "all these nervous, stuttery 1987 grooves slowly unfurling and building momentum like a colt learning how to run for the first time."
The difference is that there is not really much if any disco (or synth-pop) in Haim's arrangements.
It's definitely the XX debut or Bloom of 2013, I'll grant you that.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:31 (ten years ago) link
Yeah 'Love Is Not Pop' was the EPDM I was thinking of, as far as I can remember it's the only one I've heard.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link
The Collapseboard review is astonishingly, bar-raisingly bad.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:48 (ten years ago) link
Rockist agonistes
I'll leave you to repost it on worst music writing ever thread then
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:54 (ten years ago) link
Scott Creney lives in Athens, Georgia. He is the author of Dear Al-Qaeda: Letters to the World’s Most Notorious Terror Organization and countless others
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 11:00 (ten years ago) link
Not even that polished, the way the drums rudely burst in at the beginning and the end of Forever.
FWIW I really hate the post-Soft Bulletin trend of foregrounding drums like that.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, October 2, 2013 5:52 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
back when they only had an EP or so out, i always got 'forever' and 'don't save me' confused because they intro'd both songs with foregrounded drums
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 11:50 (ten years ago) link
When people compare bands to Fleetwood Mac, nine out of ten times they mean Fleetwood Mac's drum sounds.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
You think that's the case here?
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
Well, I think people are certainly thinking of the production quality of Tango in the Night - which is very arranged and percussion heavy - more than the songwriting.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYrDfpirDCQ
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
Nope, no percussion in that one!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
what? It's all over the place!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link
That was a very dry joke. Dry as the drum sound.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
I don't know what I expected this album to be but it's very pleasant
― smang culture (DJP), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
"Honey & I" feels like it's about 500 years long, though
― smang culture (DJP), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
This album isn't great bc it sounds like Tango in the night or whatever (which I haven't heard, along with a lot of the other reference points people are dropping -- I couldn't name you a Wison Phillips song, Shania? I know "Man I Feel Like a Woman") although it's a nice sound, it's great because its by leagues the catchiest set of songs I've heard this year. I think I said earlier I've barely gone hours since I first heard it without one of these songs (and every single one of them at some point) popping into my head.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, the complaints of filler I've read are dumbfounding. Every track on this album is tight as fuck.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
yeah this album has hooks for days
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
I love Tango in the Night but it's patchier than this.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
They're both patchy.
btw I don't think this particularly sounds like Tango. I posted "Caroline" because I thought it must be what people had in mind when comparing the two albums.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
I'm pretty sure the Shania comparisons come solely from The Wire.
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
I don't agree with this album being patchy at all.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
Really the only thing stopping this from being a lock for my AOTY is that Chance writes brilliant lyrics and they don't.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
I'm eh on "Falling" and one of the ballads at the end. It's still one of the year's best.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
"Let Me Go" rules pretty hard
― smang culture (DJP), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
I didn't really get "Falling" til I heard it on the album but now I always want to listen to it. And then I listen to the rest of the album.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, October 2, 2013 4:15 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah it's more like "Love In Store" and "Hold Me" with 1987 production.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
"Love in Store" or "Family Man" given the Balearic treatment
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
idk i think "everywhere" kinda prevails as an analog
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
For some reason, Forever keeps reminding me of Time After Time. Same chord progression?
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
Ha Alfred's dn makes me think of "the objections to Haim from REAL INDIE people"
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
dn?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
Display name
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link
haha
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link
some of the drum sounds on this remind me of Invisible Touch era Genesis
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
That's otm
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
kind of a dumb generalization though I guess since most '80 records tried to have phil collins sounding drums haha
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
so basically "80s drums"
"Tony Banks drums"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW68T84RLHw
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link
lol
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
I didn't even know I was nostalgic for something like this but it's taking me back to being a 9 year old listening to the Jets.
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
I watched that Genesis video, and most of the time Phil isn't even playing the drums. He's not even singing into a real microphone! What a scam. I bet they never imagine that video would be around 25 years later and that people would be checking. Shame on you, Genesis. Shame. On. You.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link