btw I don't think this particularly sounds like Tango. I posted "Caroline" because I thought it must be what people had in mind when comparing the two albums.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, October 2, 2013 4:15 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah it's more like "Love In Store" and "Hold Me" with 1987 production.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
"Love in Store" or "Family Man" given the Balearic treatment
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
idk i think "everywhere" kinda prevails as an analog
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
For some reason, Forever keeps reminding me of Time After Time. Same chord progression?
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
Ha Alfred's dn makes me think of "the objections to Haim from REAL INDIE people"
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
dn?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
Display name
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link
haha
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link
some of the drum sounds on this remind me of Invisible Touch era Genesis
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
That's otm
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
kind of a dumb generalization though I guess since most '80 records tried to have phil collins sounding drums haha
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
so basically "80s drums"
"Tony Banks drums"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW68T84RLHw
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link
lol
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
I didn't even know I was nostalgic for something like this but it's taking me back to being a 9 year old listening to the Jets.
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
I watched that Genesis video, and most of the time Phil isn't even playing the drums. He's not even singing into a real microphone! What a scam. I bet they never imagine that video would be around 25 years later and that people would be checking. Shame on you, Genesis. Shame. On. You.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
It's a gormless video
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
what do you call that kind of '80s beat anyway (on the Haim record, not Genesis)? is it a Jam & Lewis thing?
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcQYgrm6Vv0
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link
"eighties drums" means many things: programmed Linn drums, gated drums, etc
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
while we're talking about drums, 'the wire' opening drums = rock and roll pt. 2 drums
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link
yeah totally
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
It's not "Heartache Tonight"?
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
yeah, I was talking more about that jam & lewis kind of beat like on Falling, Forever, Change Your Mind, and Days Are Gone.
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
or I guess it's also similar to latin freestyle? Let the Music Play
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
lol sorry, next time I'll read the thread first
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link
― 乒乓, Wednesday, October 2, 2013 11:12 AM Bookmark
It's that big 12/8 beat (see also: "The Beautiful People", "Atlas", "Black Skinhead")
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
Something else that Forever reminds me of - there's a synth bit just before the chorus that I swear is straight out of Bizarre Love Triangle. The guitar break is kinda Barney too.
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
I keep hoping these guys will get booked on snl this year, which is never a hope I've really had for a band before?
― Clay, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
you could do a pretty good mashup of Forever and Spring Love by Stevie B
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
Stop.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
You're going to send Alfred into convulsions.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
*convulses in office as "I Wanna Be the One" blasts*
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
haha oh yeah, you're in miami, right?
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
iirc, "The Star Spangled Banner" is the national anthem outside of Dade County, where it's "Spring Love".
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
the freestyle comparisons sold me on this album a lot more than the Mac ones. my cd just arrived in the mail: no typo!
― Euler, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
top 40 radio in san jose was that kind of stuff when I was a kid. so I always just think of that sound as "80s music" and I heard this and thought "hey it's 1986"!
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
I thought this thread said HAM
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
it does
― Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
The freestyle comparisons are wrong but that's okay.
*convulses while making spaghetti sauce and dancing to Company B's "Fascinated"*
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
some of the drum sounds on this have a freestyle sonic quality to them but they're not rhythmically freestyle at all
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
Company B's "Fascinated"*
Miami deep cut.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
idk i think some of the tempos and grooves are pretty reminiscent of freestyle (minus the latin percussion of course, just kick/snare patterns). or just uptempo '80s pop.
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
plus a lot of the little off beat syncopated percussion and synth parts. but yeah, it's more like the later, more mainstream pop that was freestyle influenced. I don't think it really sounds like that fleetwood mac record though. they do sound like FM in a general way but not like they took that particular album as a template to ripoff like some people are suggesting.
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
I think it's a mark of how singular the rhythmic approach is that everyone hears it and immediately thinks of a patch of years in the mid-late 80s, but then struggles to come up with a really close blueprint!
Which is not to say that Haim have done something new, but rather that in this regard the retro-mining is very precise.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link
Phil's "Don't Lose My Number"?
I get a Bangles vibe too (from the rhythms, though obv the vocals too to some extent) but when I go back and check none of the Bangles' tunes were riding quite the same vibe.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link
yeah, bangles def
― wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link
they weren't quite rhythmically creative
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link
The resemblance is a stretch but when "Edge" is playing I keep singing the Georgian song from this year's Eurovision over it.
― Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link