I can see Haim being popular with teenagers as much as middle aged radio 2 listeners. Not sure they're being aimed at just one market. I find them very boring but nothing a 15 or a 50 year old couldn't enjoy.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 4 October 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link
haim seems as indie as, like, phoenix. make of that what you will i guess.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 4 October 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
I thought that grantland piece had it backwards. it seems like the pop charts might start to diversify a bit from all-euro-dance-beats-all-the-time, which would be more like the beginning period of "alternative" wouldn't it? who is the charting nirvana that haim's sugar ray is pushing out of the charts?
― wk, Friday, 4 October 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
xp Critics loved Hanson in 1997 and plenty of mainstream pop besides, if you look at P&J results. It's not like a generation of indie snob critics have suddenly come around to pop because of SEO. In fact the true snobs, like DeRo, are digging their heels in. It's a completely false narrative.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 4 October 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
"MMMbop" topped the P&J singles list.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link
I was a little puzzled when I saw Haim described as an indie band, but I think it's more a reference to their trajectory (DIY band with Jenny Lewis/Strokes connections) than anything else. One result is that they get played/respected in places that might not have time for "just" a pop band -- they've been played a lot on World Cafe, e.g.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 4 October 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
And that in turn is presumably what bothers the likes of DeRo -- people Who Should Know Better are taking them seriously.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 4 October 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
love it when DeRo goes down fighting
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Friday, 4 October 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Would play the hell out of a Haim cover of MMMbop.
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 October 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
Otm
― The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
MMMbop-UH!
― Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Friday, 4 October 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link
I am not feeling The Wire as much as the other singles, but boy this album is fun through and through. Not only the song themselves. about 6 of them bring me pure joy, but the idea of a band like this one having that much critical success. Not sure Haim is taking as seriously in 2005.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 4 October 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
Co-worker who reads Grantland regularly and has been following the Haim beef on Twitter walked into my office a few minutes ago and said, "Chris Weingarten is kind of a dick, isn't he?"
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
oh the stories you could tell
― call all destroyer, Friday, 4 October 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
If you, a grown adult, think Live or Pearl Jam or Sugar Ray had some different agenda than Metallica because they knew who the Feelies were, well I got a bridge in a Shit Towne to sell you, bruh.
i don't think sugar ray knows the feelies whiney
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
I am 100% certain Mark McGrath knows about The Feelies
― smang culture (DJP), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
I heard Mark McGrath formed Sugar Ray after seeing the Feelies perform.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
this should've made the album https://soundcloud.com/twin-shadow/haim-edge
― J0rdan S., Friday, 4 October 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
Sugar Ray covered Eno-Cale so...
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
xxxps I stuck up for Whiney solely on the basis of "in the aeroplane over the .css" and his Public Enemy book.
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
Aw, thank you, Phil!
― smangerz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
xps This "Edge" song is fantastic. I definitely prefer shorter albums to longer ones, and I don't which song I would've chopped to get it on the Haim album, but I agree it should be on there.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 October 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link
eno and cale are way more famous than the feelies
DJP are you teasing some sultry crazy rhythms tete a tete with mark mcgrath or what????
dish girlfriend
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
lol no
I'm saying any dude in a guitar-based band in his early 40s that had any link/pretension to an indie scene is going to know who The Feelies were; I mean, I knew who they were solely from reading Rolling Stone
― smang culture (DJP), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
But ... can Mark McGrath read?!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
http://img.spokeo.com/public/900-600/mark_mcgrath_2001_02_15.jpg
Brian Wilson solo T, pretty hip.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link
Mark McGrath was on Rock n Roll Jeopardy and cleaned house. Stop being snobs.
― smangerz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, he was a machine as a contestant and then, after Jeff Probst got too busy with Survivor, hosted the show for a hot minute.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
Oh wait, he didn't. He was going to revive the show, but it never got out of the planning stages.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link
Seems like a stand-up dude, tbh.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
― smangerz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 4, 2013 2:15 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
was gonna say this. i was about the make the case for mcgrath as some kind of tragic genius figure who lucked into a wack career but i don't know enough really and don't care
― goole, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
lol I think goole is basically OTM
― smang culture (DJP), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
ok i'll admit when i'm wrong
mark mcgrath you know who the feelies are and i'm sorry i doubted you.
tyler's blog has some good bootlegs check em out
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
back to "Edge," which is terrific.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
Sugar Ray bootlegs?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
no feelies stuff, really deep cuts
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
Just jokin'. I've downloaded a bunch of his stuff (which of course is ace, love Tyler's site).
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
Sugar Ray are classic, you fuckheads.
― The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
the abridged Sugar Ray singles poll
― J0rdan S., Friday, 4 October 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
ppl were talking about Haim covering other artists upthread; I kind of want to hear them cover the first Ruby album
― smang culture (DJP), Friday, 4 October 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
SUGAR RAY & SUPERCAT FLY TRIBUTE THREAD
― The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
This is apparently only 28 copies from outselling JT's new album in the UK.
― Greer, Friday, 4 October 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
IN HELLENISTIC EGYPT THE LIGHTHOUSE OF ALEXANDRIA CRUMBLES FOR ME
― J0rdan S., Friday, 22 February 2008 07:00 (5 years ago) Permalink
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 4 October 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
wow xp
― The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
This explains the invective.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
my response to everett is in the comments
http://www.collapseboard.com/everett-true/haim-an-open-letter-to-christopher-r-weingarten/
― smangerz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 October 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link
sub-Chunklet.... nice
― flopson, Friday, 4 October 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link
good response, whiney
― The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, nice not taking the bait and actually staying pretty even tempered.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
really hope they get the #1
― monotony, Friday, 4 October 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link