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I heard Mark McGrath formed Sugar Ray after seeing the Feelies perform.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

this should've made the album https://soundcloud.com/twin-shadow/haim-edge

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 October 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

Sugar Ray covered Eno-Cale so...

xxxps I stuck up for Whiney solely on the basis of "in the aeroplane over the .css" and his Public Enemy book.

My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link

Aw, thank you, Phil!

smangerz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

xps This "Edge" song is fantastic. I definitely prefer shorter albums to longer ones, and I don't which song I would've chopped to get it on the Haim album, but I agree it should be on there.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 October 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link

eno and cale are way more famous than the feelies

DJP are you teasing some sultry crazy rhythms tete a tete with mark mcgrath or what????

dish girlfriend

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link

lol no

I'm saying any dude in a guitar-based band in his early 40s that had any link/pretension to an indie scene is going to know who The Feelies were; I mean, I knew who they were solely from reading Rolling Stone

smang culture (DJP), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link

But ... can Mark McGrath read?!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

http://img.spokeo.com/public/900-600/mark_mcgrath_2001_02_15.jpg

Brian Wilson solo T, pretty hip.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

Mark McGrath was on Rock n Roll Jeopardy and cleaned house. Stop being snobs.

smangerz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, he was a machine as a contestant and then, after Jeff Probst got too busy with Survivor, hosted the show for a hot minute.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

Oh wait, he didn't. He was going to revive the show, but it never got out of the planning stages.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

Seems like a stand-up dude, tbh.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link

Mark McGrath was on Rock n Roll Jeopardy and cleaned house. Stop being snobs.

― smangerz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 4, 2013 2:15 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was gonna say this. i was about the make the case for mcgrath as some kind of tragic genius figure who lucked into a wack career but i don't know enough really and don't care

goole, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

lol I think goole is basically OTM

smang culture (DJP), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

ok i'll admit when i'm wrong

mark mcgrath you know who the feelies are and i'm sorry i doubted you.

tyler's blog has some good bootlegs check em out

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link

back to "Edge," which is terrific.

tyler's blog has some good bootlegs check em out

Sugar Ray bootlegs?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link

no feelies stuff, really deep cuts

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link

Just jokin'. I've downloaded a bunch of his stuff (which of course is ace, love Tyler's site).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link

Sugar Ray are classic, you fuckheads.

The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link

the abridged Sugar Ray singles poll

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 October 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

ppl were talking about Haim covering other artists upthread; I kind of want to hear them cover the first Ruby album

smang culture (DJP), Friday, 4 October 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

SUGAR RAY & SUPERCAT FLY TRIBUTE THREAD

The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

This is apparently only 28 copies from outselling JT's new album in the UK.

Greer, Friday, 4 October 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link

IN HELLENISTIC EGYPT THE LIGHTHOUSE OF ALEXANDRIA CRUMBLES FOR ME

― J0rdan S., Friday, 22 February 2008 07:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 4 October 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link

wow xp

The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link

This explains the invective.

my response to everett is in the comments

http://www.collapseboard.com/everett-true/haim-an-open-letter-to-christopher-r-weingarten/

smangerz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 October 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link

sub-Chunklet.... nice

flopson, Friday, 4 October 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

good response, whiney

The Reverend, Friday, 4 October 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, nice not taking the bait and actually staying pretty even tempered.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 October 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link

really hope they get the #1

monotony, Friday, 4 October 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link

wgw otm

wk, Saturday, 5 October 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link

wait so is Haim like getting played on the radio in the uk? (I guess everyone gets played on the radio in the uk, but I mean like to a significant amount?)

Geoffrey Schweppes (jaymc), Saturday, 5 October 2013 03:55 (ten years ago) link

"The Wire" is on the Radio 1 A list at the moment, and just appeared on the UK Radio Airplay chart.

I'm seeing them at a smallish (400 person) venue on Sunday (hopefully tropical storm Karen will have cleared out by evening). I'm a bit giddy.

جهاد النكاح (Sanpaku), Saturday, 5 October 2013 04:33 (ten years ago) link

Also, it’s OK to not like the Haim album, but not liking it by throwing around Bryan Adams, Wilson Phillips, and Rick Astley’s names like it’s bad to make good pop music is some sub-Chunklet aging punk bullshit, and corny as fuck.

Yeah really, having, like, taste and standards is so fucking Dischord, dudes. Can't wait for the RSD 180g diehard red vinyl reissue of Heart in Motion by Amy fucking Grant."

omg kill yourself

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 5 October 2013 05:13 (ten years ago) link

You know Heart In Motion has a gang of hardcore fans on ilm, do you not?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 5 October 2013 05:15 (ten years ago) link

By 'gang' do you mean REDACTED?

I guess this would be easier to swallow if it wasn't some transparent social climbing 'VMA limited access' horseshit from yet another writer trying to rationalize his Lolita complex and collection of secret Richard Marx cassingles

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 5 October 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link

u are a traet

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 5 October 2013 05:25 (ten years ago) link

oh huh haim has a song called the wire and wire had an album called pink flag and that flag was pepto pink.

how's life, Saturday, 5 October 2013 10:33 (ten years ago) link

I guess this would be easier to swallow if it wasn't some transparent social climbing 'VMA limited access' horseshit from yet another writer trying to rationalize his Lolita complex and collection of secret Richard Marx cassingles

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WwDaoULXp2Y/TrBi8ZG9OkI/AAAAAAAAAog/92fGO7QQmic/s1600/Mike%2BNapoleon.jpg

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 October 2013 11:53 (ten years ago) link

I don't understand -- championing Heart in Motion, released when Amy Grant was 30, is evidence of a Lolita complex?

I've never heard the album in full, but "Baby Baby" and "Every Heartbeat" hold up fantastically. Richard Marx had a couple of jams, too.

Geoffrey Schweppes (jaymc), Saturday, 5 October 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link

I'm on team Heart in Motion

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:09 (ten years ago) link

guys his DN has "dyspeptic" in it

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link

As a riff on a Red Red Meat album title.

Geoffrey Schweppes (jaymc), Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link

I guess it's just sorta tragic to me that a writer would take a swipe at Chunklet - who, let's be honest, are sorta the Led Zep to Whiney's Kingdom Come - while extolling the virtues of the "good pop music" of Wilson Philips. My contention here is simply that failing to make a distinction between "pop music" and "objectively terrible music" is far more contrarian and corny (and boring) in 2013 than, oh, I dunno, offering to "pay bands not to play." Whiney isn't here to defend himself, so I'm not going to continue ranting (I generally enjoy CW's writing, follow him on twitter, etc) but that comment sorta made me wanna barf.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 5 October 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link

Everett linked to this thread in the comments section, lolz

Neanderthal, Saturday, 5 October 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link

If u cannot get behind "Hold On" and "You're In Love" as "good pop music" get yr fuckin ears checked imho

My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Saturday, 5 October 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link


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