This is where I'll defer to younger people on the board, since I don't know how old many of you are. I'm hovering under 40 - getting older every day, isn't it a miracle? - and I listen to Fleetwood Mac all the time. Listening now, even. But ILXors out there in your 20s, how often do you listen to Fleetwood Mac? And do any of your friends listen to FM, or do they think you're the weird one for doing so? Strictly anecdotal, but possibly illustrative. I don't really presume to know what anyone listens to. But I do know that even among my peers I don't know a single soul who listens to Fleetwood Mac.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
As someone who wasn't that familiar with Fleetwood Mac until last decade (and unfamiliar with a lot of classic rock in general while growing up), the Clinton coopting of "Don't Stop" emphasized the band's uncoolness to me as a '90s teen: it was good-times boomer rock for my parents' generation.
― Geoffrey Schweppes (jaymc), Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
i'm 29 and have been listening to fleetwood mac regularly for years! i know lots of ppl who listen to the mac.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
i definitely sell fleetwood mac albums to college kids. mostly college kids.
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
*anecdotal*
yeah i don't think it'd be far wrong to say that (buckingham-nicks) fleetwood mac are THE #1 classic band for somewhat with-it mid-20s-ish people (e.g. vampire weekend fans) nowadays.
― opie dead eyed piece of shit (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
dude at the local used record shop says kids have been buying hell of fleetwood mac lately
― pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
I discovered my parents' copy of Rumours around the time of the Clinton inaugural. I knew the Rumours hits and "Little Lies" and "Gypsy" and a couple of Nicks solo hits. On a whim I bought the '88 greatest hits in fall '96 from Columbia House and Tusk and Tango in early '97. By the time The Dance was out I'd converted the entire newsroom of early twentysomethings at my college newspaper to the Mac. My best friend played Rumours constantly when he broke up with his girlfriend that fall.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
and let's not forget: The Dance version of "Landslide" was on constant rotation through '98.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
Billy Corgan prob has more to do w/ that song's 90s resurgence.
― marky markers & the blinky bunch (some dude), Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, that was that weird era of MTV where you watched and though, really, is this what people want to see/hear?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yHBz3K0yKg
― 乒乓, Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
I was wearing my Fleetwood Mac penguin t-shirt one day, and this dude in his '50s with a big grey beard stopped me and said "awesome shirt, man." But then later that day, picking up my younger daughter from day care, one of the assistants, an African American woman in her early '20s (in her case, possibly literally from Africa, I think) stopped me and said "awesome shirt" and gave me a thumbs up.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
they might have just liked penguins
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link
Everyone likes penguins.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
max otm as usual
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link
I vividly remember waking up to "Little Lies" on the clock radio one morning in middle school, and I guess I've been a fan ever since. I'm sure I heard their earlier stuff on the radio, but "Little Lies" is what I remember as the gateway, that and possibly "Hold Me." Much later I know I had a cut out copy of "Out of the Cradle" on cassette, and a copy of "Tusk," which I think I bought via an Xgau review that referenced Eno, and possibly also that famed SPIN listacle that called "Tusk" and (at the time) "Paul's Boutique" a couple of the most underrated albums of all time. Which may have been ... '91 or so?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
indie kids in athens at least have worshiped tusk for as long as i can remember. when smashing pumpkins covered 'landslide' it wasn't a sign of corgan's or fleetwood mac's uncoolness. obv were not always so -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKtASyCinfc
but fleetwood mac were one of the first classic rock acts rehabilitated or whatever by altrock - after sabbath but before say steely dan.
― balls, Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
1995's Melody Maker piece about Tusk by Simon Reynolds might be the first thing i ever read that made me think they could become hip again with my generation. http://reynoldsretro.blogspot.co.uk/2007/10/fleetwood-mac-tusk-from-unknown.html
― piscesx, Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link
my take was always "lol boomer soft rock" and my first taste of hipster mac was the Melvins insisting Peter Green era was the jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB19kSIrFNc
Didn't really boomerang back to me until this wave of millenials
― smangerz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 6 October 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
Not to interrupt the Fleetwood Mac discussion, but as it relates to Haim, I think part of the disconnect in the comparison is that people who hear "Haim sounds like Fleetwood Mac" expect to hear songs and tunes that sound like Fleetwood Mac, and Haim doesn't really have those -- it's more that they sound like an era of Fleetowood Mac, the influence is much more sonic than melodic. And it's probably overstated even on that count, because they really sound like a whole era of pop-rock, for which '80s Fleetwood Mac is just one reference point. I hear as much latter-day New Wave -- the sumptuous period of Tears for Fears/"Perfect Way"/Thompson Twins etc.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 6 October 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
I didn't grow up with Fleetwood Mac and only really heard "Don't Stop" and I dunno, maybe "Rhiannon" as a kid, cause of Clinton/oldies radio. I only really became familiar with them a few years ago when I frequented a Portland karaoke joint where it seemed like every third song performed was from Rumours. And even then it took me breaking down and checking the album out to put together that all those songs were from the same album, let alone the same band. (And appropriately enough given the talk of their diversity above, each subsequent album I've heard has had at least one song where I went "oh that song is Fleetwood Mac?")
― The Reverend, Sunday, 6 October 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link
My problem with fleetwood Mac is that it all sounds like Girl Talk. I mean wth
― 乒乓, Sunday, 6 October 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
Then of course we saw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJe25qy4odw
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 October 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
"and my first taste of hipster mac was the Melvins insisting Peter Green era was the jam"
mine was when judas priest did the same song at the end of the 70's! i remember thinking wow this is a fleetwood mac song??? i only knew the (then) current hits.
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 October 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
i got tusk for christmas the year it came out but at the time i really only loved the song tusk. the other stuff on the album sounded weird to me. i was kinda obsessed with that song.
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 October 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link
Album beat Timberlake for #1 in the UK. http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/haim-debut-at-number-1-with-days-are-gone-2527/
― monotony, Sunday, 6 October 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link
tusk and another brick in the wall were both obsessions for me in 1979. the whisper to a scream thing was so cool. they might as well have been the same song.
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 October 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BglEyv5O2Y
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 6 October 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
I've had no internet access at home for over a week (dead monitor) so I'm just getting to listen to this all for the first time and I think it's good. Some songs are sounding better to me away from the videos and in the context of the whole album.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 6 October 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
I hear as much latter-day New Wave -- the sumptuous period of Tears for Fears/"Perfect Way"/Thompson Twins etc.
otm
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 6 October 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
i always like when kids like stuff that doesn't make me cry. this stuff is fine. if i were a teen they would be my new faves probably. play the album over and over. that kinda thing. okay, maybe i wouldn't, but i don't hate their sound. its congenial. they seem nice.
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 October 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
plus, i hate to sound like a square or something but this right here is just a cool thing for young girls to see. they're doing their own thing and they are good at it. and having fun!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg1X_2MnvUE
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 October 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
i don't want to hear about anything being "telling" ever again
― goole, Sunday, 6 October 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link
of all the bands to be "controversial" in 2013, jeez, this one?
― goole, Sunday, 6 October 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
Lol I can totally hear thr Tusk/Another Brick in the Wall similarities
Haim album is dece from what I've heard so far
― outsider house rules (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
fleetwood mac
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link
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― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
i mean there a million really specific genealogies you can trace out--i think the balearic angle is an impt one--but the big picture is just that mac is cool now because they werent cool before and thats how cool works
― max, Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:43 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
word. imwoyp fleetwood mac became cool approx 1.5-2 years ago
― flopson, Monday, 7 October 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
because I'm willing to bet plenty that there is barely a tiny fraction of, say, Vampire Weekend's fanbase that has ever played a single Mac song of their own volition.
hahaha WHAT
― call all destroyer, Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:42 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
eh i think there's some truth to that. i mean vdubs have very broad fanbase but i doubt most of their fans were grazed by hipster mac reappraisal
― flopson, Monday, 7 October 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link
love the level of generalization in this thread, guys. Keep it up.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 October 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link
woah weren't u extrapolating like amotherfucker upthread, something about your local paper's coverage of a mac concert in the nineties?
― flopson, Monday, 7 October 2013 01:17 (ten years ago) link
I wasn't extrapolating anything other than what music coverage of a moribund seventies band read like in 1997.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 October 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
I'm pretty sure VW fans know the Mac hits but not enough to buy an album or download them -- as with most people with bands that are omnipresent on radio, satellite or otherwise. Like the Eagles!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 October 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link
yeah uh duh, hence "has ever played a single Mac song of their own volition"
― flopson, Monday, 7 October 2013 01:22 (ten years ago) link
i had the exact same experience as rev ("oh that song is Fleetwood Mac?") when i started listening to mac lp's, had never put on mac but as soon as i heard the albums was stunned at how many lifelong jams were on them
― flopson, Monday, 7 October 2013 01:23 (ten years ago) link
remember midlake getting a lot of mac comparisons like 7 years ago, then the last(?) rilo kiley record too. superficial comparisons tbh but seems like they have been an "influence" on indie bands for a while
― buzza, Monday, 7 October 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
here's good inspiration for haim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1YUw0gmvRE
― scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link
and vampire weekend could do a good cover of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfHJMOYwOtY
― scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link
― buzza, Monday, October 7, 2013 1:38 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah Midlake were what I was thinking about upthread when I was saying that FM revival can mean a lot of different things.
"Roscoe" sounds like it draws from their seventies work on both sides of the divide - Future Games through to Tusk basically, with nothing afterwards.
Whereas to the extent that Haim resemble FM the resemblance starts with Tusk and then encompasses Mirage and Tango.
When viewed within the context of the broader revivalist sound that the two acts are going for they may as well be referencing different bands.
― Tim F, Monday, 7 October 2013 02:19 (ten years ago) link