the weird old stationery and technical office supply store down by the fulton st. mall is pretty cool
― pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Monday, 7 October 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
white hipsters move to brooklyn, complain about white hipsters in brooklyn
― The Reverend, Monday, 7 October 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
yup
― J0rdan S., Monday, 7 October 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link
the first of those tweets is maybe a bit sloppy but the last two seem otm to me?
― flopson, Monday, 7 October 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
where brookyln at?
(a cool dance party)
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 October 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
This sounds like the worst thing
― maura, Monday, 7 October 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
i swear to god all this shit about riff raff and miley cyrus is just like going through that entire cycle of history all over again
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 7 October 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
the script is already written, but everyone under the age of 27 has cultural amnesia
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 7 October 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
besides the fact that jordan's argument paradoxically sets him falling exactly into the trap he decries (and honestly I thought he was smarter than that -- white people decrying white people doesn't become any better when you add a layer to it, no it gets even worse), I'm not sure how it's helpful to a) bring up an extreme example from almost ten years ago as if that's any sort of norm or excuses anything else (I mean, come on, you can't take issue with miley because tha pumpsta?) and more importantly, b) ignore people of color in those scenes?
― The Reverend, Monday, 7 October 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
I mean, I'm sure if there are black people in Brooklyn, and that's a big if, none of them ever go to cool dance parties.
― The Reverend, Monday, 7 October 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
I just posted a link! I didn't editorialize! It was more a "circle of life" type comment than anything else.
― maura, Monday, 7 October 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
yeah jordan's argument is funny as an observation of the narc of sd required to be a hipster who loves rap / wears vaguely hip hop clothing & who really really hates miley cyrus
but as a defense of miley cyrus it doesnt work b/c godwin's law
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 7 October 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link
jordan's argument works bc it's obv satirizing how identity issues in pop culture are always subordinate to taste + preference. appropriation is only a problem when it's aesthetically unappealing.
― Mordy , Monday, 7 October 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link
you cant separate aesthetics/taste from identity issues tho (although white ppl are more likely to pretend you can ime)
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 7 October 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
or, i should say, u can't always, although there are plenty of hypocrisies that crop up when ppl try to act as if they're always completely overlapping
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 7 October 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
your Mexican food is cool
mexican food in new york is warm bullshit
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 7 October 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
but Brooklyn isn't New York is it
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 October 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
look I was in a heavily Mexican part of Bushwick last month and after an afternoon of scotch a buddy's girlfriend disappeared and returned with $5 worth of mole and chicharrones and I proposed to her.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 October 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
lol haven't gone so far as bushwick but i took a trip back to san francisco last year and confirmed the difference in burrito quality is genuinely profound
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 7 October 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link
a profound burrito
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 October 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
of all the things to brag about in new york mexican food is at the bottom of the list
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link
http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/dog-with-glasses-retales-botijero.jpg
look I was in a heavily Mexican part of Bushwick last month
― smangerz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link
Who are the self-clowning ovens of ILX?
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 01:02 (ten years ago) link
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, October 7, 2013 8:09 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^ truth bomb.
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 01:27 (ten years ago) link
All The Tacos Love You in New York
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 02:37 (ten years ago) link
differences aren't that small here.
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 04:25 (ten years ago) link
default burrito experience imo
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 04:34 (ten years ago) link
i used to work at 16th and Capp in SF -- got tired of burritos tbrr
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 04:36 (ten years ago) link
burritos w/e, its about tacos
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 04:39 (ten years ago) link
italian food >>>>>> mexican food
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 04:43 (ten years ago) link
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Monday, October 7, 2013 11:25 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think we disagree
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 04:49 (ten years ago) link
how does loving rap and hating miley cyrus equal a small difference?
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 04:51 (ten years ago) link
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― ^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 04:53 (ten years ago) link
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― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:00 (ten years ago) link
heavens to you!
― ^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:01 (ten years ago) link
Murgatroid, do you like Miss Murgatroid?
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:02 (ten years ago) link
I'm not here for no Q&As. Back to awful music writing please.
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:05 (ten years ago) link
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Monday, October 7, 2013 11:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
im talking about instagram selfies of folks in beanies who love rap music talking all down on miley for basically appreciating rap on the same level they do
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:08 (ten years ago) link
i thought it was because they hated her music?
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:09 (ten years ago) link
the two go hand in hand, we're plowing our way into strawman territory here and for the record i realize i'm about to argue with sarahell about hipsters so i'm gonna close the computer and go to sleep buuuuut ime there are people in brooklyn and elsewhere that would like miley's music if it was in a context that wasn't "a person that looks like me but who i perceive to be worse at interacting with the culture of rap music than me"
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:16 (ten years ago) link
there is a broad range of aesthetics in rap music -- you'd need to be more specific to be convincing -- are you talking about stuff that sounds like Miley but the singer happens to be black? Otherwise, you're saying the equivalent of "ppl who like darkthrone and gorguts are fronting if they say that guns n roses suck balls"
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:23 (ten years ago) link
http://media-social.s-msn.com/images/blogs/002a0065-0000-0000-0000-000000000000_00000065-06d4-0000-0000-000000000000_20130424224142_marky%20mark.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:23 (ten years ago) link
or let's put it this way: I know more than one person making fun of miley for appropriation who makes awful jokes about twerking where the punchline is "look, I said 'twerking,' what a wacky and ironic man am I"
― katherine, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 06:19 (ten years ago) link
let's just agree that people are awful
― Bap & Ounge (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link
ok katherine, you know more than one person, you win the argument!
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 06:28 (ten years ago) link
fyi the raison d'être for music critics is shades of whiteness
― hipster racist (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 08:38 (ten years ago) link
at least their etre has a raison
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 09:14 (ten years ago) link
it's almost funny but needs twerk.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 09:17 (ten years ago) link
put a twerk on it
― Moodles, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
did somebody do a twerking for the weeknd joke yet?
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link