OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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i thought it was because they hated her music?

excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:09 (ten years ago) link

the two go hand in hand, we're plowing our way into strawman territory here and for the record i realize i'm about to argue with sarahell about hipsters so i'm gonna close the computer and go to sleep buuuuut ime there are people in brooklyn and elsewhere that would like miley's music if it was in a context that wasn't "a person that looks like me but who i perceive to be worse at interacting with the culture of rap music than me"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:16 (ten years ago) link

there is a broad range of aesthetics in rap music -- you'd need to be more specific to be convincing -- are you talking about stuff that sounds like Miley but the singer happens to be black? Otherwise, you're saying the equivalent of "ppl who like darkthrone and gorguts are fronting if they say that guns n roses suck balls"

excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:23 (ten years ago) link

or let's put it this way: I know more than one person making fun of miley for appropriation who makes awful jokes about twerking where the punchline is "look, I said 'twerking,' what a wacky and ironic man am I"

katherine, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 06:19 (ten years ago) link

let's just agree that people are awful

Bap & Ounge (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link

ok katherine, you know more than one person, you win the argument!

excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 06:28 (ten years ago) link

fyi the raison d'être for music critics is shades of whiteness

hipster racist (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 08:38 (ten years ago) link

at least their etre has a raison

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 09:14 (ten years ago) link

it's almost funny but needs twerk.

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 09:17 (ten years ago) link

put a twerk on it

Moodles, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link

did somebody do a twerking for the weeknd joke yet?

Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link

Interesting piece in last night's Evening Standard: http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/amol-rajan-its-high-time-london-got-its-reggae-mojo-back-8866456.html

mahb, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link

lol that's amazing

I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:11 (ten years ago) link

Wow

Long experience has taught me that you have to be fabulously stoned to enjoy dub step in its purest form, it being a genre of music designed to void reggae of its main virtues: beat, lyrics, soul.

First, what a shame reggae has been near hijacked by the cult of Rastafarianism.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link

so bitter that Gospel has been hijacked by the cult of Christianity

I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link

Going through my reggae collection, removing anything tainted by Rastafarianism. Left with Uptown Top Ranking.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:21 (ten years ago) link

"Dreadlock Holiday" probly doesn't count

I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:24 (ten years ago) link

You need some Yabby You

gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:25 (ten years ago) link

Amol Rajan is editor of The Independent.

So wait, was this the guy that cut Simon Price loose??

gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:29 (ten years ago) link

No, SP worked for the Indy on Sunday - different editors.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:31 (ten years ago) link

Is he not 28 or something?

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link

oh okay, thanks DL xp

gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link

He's very young. Just realised what his column reminds me of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXRuWshJH0c

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link

dude i love those Paul Nicholas records

I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link

I think it might be possible for a 70s reggae fan to argue the case, in a manner that doesn't make you want to slap them, that the commercial split in the genre between dancehall and 'conscious' reggae has led to the increasing domination of Rastafarian themes - but he's falling quite a long way short here.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:49 (ten years ago) link

so in summary this dude loves Congo Natty's back catalogue but doesn't know what kind of music it is and is completely unfamiliar with its lyrical content. righto

when I was Ted Croker man I couldn't picture this (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link

i don't really get any sense of whether he's bemoaning the changes in Reggae's musical form or the absence of club nights playing classics or segregation in the audience or not being able to smoke weed any more tbh

not sure whether "dub step" is meant to be "dubstep" or "dub" either

I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link

In the meantime, Jah bless.

Neil S, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link

I'm sure it said "dub" in the print ed., but I might have misread

mahb, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

i cd've sworn the online verzh said just "dub" the first time i read it but maybe my brain elided the step

I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link

No, it was "dub step" in the paper last night (xpost)

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link

This guy edits the Independent? Wtf?

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link

Standard editor clearly thinking "give him enough rope" by running this imo

sktsh, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link

A previous article by the editor of the independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/amol-rajan-how-about-a-reggae-anthem-to-inspire-the-nation-8030765.html

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link

what a weirdo

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link

that this guy is all jah bless, while simon price is all jobless is a national scandal

gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link

New winner here. Holy fuck.

Near the end of the slow burning “Key/Hole”, for instance, he kicks in a raw cacophony and lets the guitar screech. He may not be playing with a screwdriver or attempting to make Michael Gira’s ears bleed, but throughout Night on Earth, Ranaldo takes a step back and realizes that—oh, that’s right—he was in Sonic Youth. And he thrashed.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:50 (ten years ago) link

Oh, Ranaldo's lyrics don't have the 'storytelling deftness' (actual quote, no shit) of Robert Hunter's? Ignoring for a moment the fact that Robert Hunter rarely wrote 'story' songs, it seems to me this reviewer read Lee's recent piece on the Dead and structured his entire review around the specious idea of Ranaldo and the Dust as a 'jam band,' pesky facts be damned. I get the feeling that if Lee had instead written a billet-doux to, oh, I don't know, Kriss Kross, St John might be complaining that the cadences heard on Last Night on Earth aren't as 'poignantly riveting' as Daddy Mack's.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:52 (ten years ago) link

you tell 'em, son

I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:53 (ten years ago) link

has this been linked yet?

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/oct/08/school-of-pop

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:55 (ten years ago) link

from the comments: I kind of rely on well informed Guardian commenters to expand upon my limited range of references, as you have done.

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:16 (ten years ago) link

Almost the only aspect of being paid to write columns that is not highly pleasurable is being scooped.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:22 (ten years ago) link

old dude be old

Neil S, Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:27 (ten years ago) link

Amol Rajan should write a book on reggae. What would it be called I wonder?

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link

Almost the only aspect of being paid to write columns that is not highly pleasurable is being scooped.

I'd imagine rereading such dogshit columns before submitting them must be quite painful too, though its clear that the reggae guy doesn't actually reread his stuff before sending it.

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link

He's the editor of the fucking Independent. wtf.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:42 (ten years ago) link

The weird thing is that he actually seems to know quite a lot about reggae - he must have actively worked to come across as so clueless and objectionable.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:46 (ten years ago) link


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