or let's put it this way: I know more than one person making fun of miley for appropriation who makes awful jokes about twerking where the punchline is "look, I said 'twerking,' what a wacky and ironic man am I"
― katherine, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 06:19 (ten years ago) link
let's just agree that people are awful
― Bap & Ounge (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link
ok katherine, you know more than one person, you win the argument!
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 06:28 (ten years ago) link
fyi the raison d'être for music critics is shades of whiteness
― hipster racist (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 08:38 (ten years ago) link
at least their etre has a raison
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 09:14 (ten years ago) link
it's almost funny but needs twerk.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 09:17 (ten years ago) link
put a twerk on it
― Moodles, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
did somebody do a twerking for the weeknd joke yet?
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
here's another
http://24.media.tumblr.com/23aa8a2a566f38f9982f282b217852dc/tumblr_mfixhfcMOX1r0yh5io1_500.gif
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
Interesting piece in last night's Evening Standard: http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/amol-rajan-its-high-time-london-got-its-reggae-mojo-back-8866456.html
― mahb, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link
lol that's amazing
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:11 (ten years ago) link
Wow
Long experience has taught me that you have to be fabulously stoned to enjoy dub step in its purest form, it being a genre of music designed to void reggae of its main virtues: beat, lyrics, soul.
First, what a shame reggae has been near hijacked by the cult of Rastafarianism.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link
so bitter that Gospel has been hijacked by the cult of Christianity
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link
Going through my reggae collection, removing anything tainted by Rastafarianism. Left with Uptown Top Ranking.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:21 (ten years ago) link
"Dreadlock Holiday" probly doesn't count
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:24 (ten years ago) link
You need some Yabby You
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:25 (ten years ago) link
Amol Rajan is editor of The Independent.
So wait, was this the guy that cut Simon Price loose??
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:29 (ten years ago) link
No, SP worked for the Indy on Sunday - different editors.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:31 (ten years ago) link
Is he not 28 or something?
― Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link
oh okay, thanks DL xp
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link
He's very young. Just realised what his column reminds me of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXRuWshJH0c
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link
dude i love those Paul Nicholas records
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link
I think it might be possible for a 70s reggae fan to argue the case, in a manner that doesn't make you want to slap them, that the commercial split in the genre between dancehall and 'conscious' reggae has led to the increasing domination of Rastafarian themes - but he's falling quite a long way short here.
― Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:49 (ten years ago) link
so in summary this dude loves Congo Natty's back catalogue but doesn't know what kind of music it is and is completely unfamiliar with its lyrical content. righto
― when I was Ted Croker man I couldn't picture this (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link
i don't really get any sense of whether he's bemoaning the changes in Reggae's musical form or the absence of club nights playing classics or segregation in the audience or not being able to smoke weed any more tbh
not sure whether "dub step" is meant to be "dubstep" or "dub" either
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link
In the meantime, Jah bless.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
I'm sure it said "dub" in the print ed., but I might have misread
― mahb, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
i cd've sworn the online verzh said just "dub" the first time i read it but maybe my brain elided the step
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
No, it was "dub step" in the paper last night (xpost)
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
This guy edits the Independent? Wtf?
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
Standard editor clearly thinking "give him enough rope" by running this imo
― sktsh, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
A previous article by the editor of the independenthttp://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/amol-rajan-how-about-a-reggae-anthem-to-inspire-the-nation-8030765.html
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
what a weirdo
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
that this guy is all jah bless, while simon price is all jobless is a national scandal
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
New winner here. Holy fuck.
Near the end of the slow burning “Key/Hole”, for instance, he kicks in a raw cacophony and lets the guitar screech. He may not be playing with a screwdriver or attempting to make Michael Gira’s ears bleed, but throughout Night on Earth, Ranaldo takes a step back and realizes that—oh, that’s right—he was in Sonic Youth. And he thrashed.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:50 (ten years ago) link
Oh, Ranaldo's lyrics don't have the 'storytelling deftness' (actual quote, no shit) of Robert Hunter's? Ignoring for a moment the fact that Robert Hunter rarely wrote 'story' songs, it seems to me this reviewer read Lee's recent piece on the Dead and structured his entire review around the specious idea of Ranaldo and the Dust as a 'jam band,' pesky facts be damned. I get the feeling that if Lee had instead written a billet-doux to, oh, I don't know, Kriss Kross, St John might be complaining that the cadences heard on Last Night on Earth aren't as 'poignantly riveting' as Daddy Mack's.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:52 (ten years ago) link
you tell 'em, son
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:53 (ten years ago) link
has this been linked yet?
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/oct/08/school-of-pop
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:55 (ten years ago) link
from the comments: I kind of rely on well informed Guardian commenters to expand upon my limited range of references, as you have done.
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:16 (ten years ago) link
Almost the only aspect of being paid to write columns that is not highly pleasurable is being scooped.
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:22 (ten years ago) link
old dude be old
― Neil S, Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:27 (ten years ago) link
Amol Rajan should write a book on reggae. What would it be called I wonder?
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link
I'd imagine rereading such dogshit columns before submitting them must be quite painful too, though its clear that the reggae guy doesn't actually reread his stuff before sending it.
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link
He's the editor of the fucking Independent. wtf.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:42 (ten years ago) link
The weird thing is that he actually seems to know quite a lot about reggae - he must have actively worked to come across as so clueless and objectionable.
― Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:46 (ten years ago) link
http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8514227.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/Amol_Rajan_crisps.jpg
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:48 (ten years ago) link
needs some Reggae Reggae Sauce on those crisps
― Neil S, Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:52 (ten years ago) link
andrew collins' blog is the smuggest piece of shit in the world
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:53 (ten years ago) link
do i have to cross out the "s' blog" there?
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 October 2013 10:38 (ten years ago) link
modern chart pop – industrially produced by a risk-averse industry for distracted tweens who generally get to vote for the artists they'd like to perform it – is no longer required to induce academic curiosity
Apples and oranges, this. All of his old examples are art-rock or post-punk, apart from the mighty Boney M.
Likewise this: The National Literary Trust study found that 21.5% of young people agreed with the statement: "I would be embarrassed if my friends saw me read." This jars with my fond teenage memory of poring over lyrics with friends in the gatefold-sleeve era. I'm sure some of the other 78.5% do the equivalent now.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 10 October 2013 10:44 (ten years ago) link