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I'd probably like the record less if it was more stripped down.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link

hi guys what'd I miss

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

And also none of the remixes I've heard are anywhere near as good as the originals.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

The record actually feels stripped down to me compared to the live versions. There's more stuff happening; the sonic-events-per-second rate is higher. But it feels more flat.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link

Or maybe I don't understand "stripped down"

Clarke B., Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link

People like DJP, who can't hear out of tune singing.

well if you can't hear the difference between the earlier version of forever and the tuned up version on the album then yeah

wk, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link

Reverend OTM

monotony, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link

agreed. When I heard the remixes last spring I actually got "uhhh" about the album, which is unfair but whatever. I'm glad I was wrong.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link

Their Letterman performance sounds just like the record, just with more bass-face.

Also, this is now easily the album of the year for me. The number of great songs and relentless hooks on this record is overwhelming - enough for an entire career.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link

Also, I really like what Tim said about the rhythm and vocal interplay.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

are there two different versions of the wire? i thought i heard two different ones. i like the one with the eagles heartache tonight beat. i always wanted someone to use that beat. i like that it reminds me of shania and i think mutt would have made it even bigger. but its cool to get a shania flashback out of nowhere.

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link

i never see spencer chow posts. i must hang out in the wrong circles.

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link

there are multiple versions of "The Wire" but they all have the same beat iirc

The Reverend, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link

i never see spencer chow posts. i must hang out in the wrong circles.

I was thinking roughly the same thing, surprised to see he still posts here. But he's been here all along under other user names.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link

I think I might like this album mostly *because* of the production.

Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link

I only used one other username for a while about 4 years ago (just haven't been posting much). Curious about these other me's!

But anyway, realized I listened to the HAIM record more in a few days than i have RAM in how many months?

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link

Curious about these other me's!

Haha, I meant to write "maybe he's been here. . ." Somehow the maybe got lost.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link

But anyway, realized I listened to the HAIM record more in a few days than i have RAM in how many months?

and a good man you are for this

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

ok i got curious.

i didn't really expect to like this.

but it's really a great pop album. what can you say? they got the tunes.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link

at various times in my life i've thought "ok, as a society we've figured it out, THIS is what great music sounds like, let's just DO THIS FROM NOW ON" - i remember DJP had similar sentiments about sonz of a loop da loop era hardcore at some point. and i feel like haim has lit upon this particular constellation of 80s pop with the same idea. as if everything since john cougar mellencamp has been a constant, annealing process of refinement.

in this respect it has a lot in common with the daft punk record but for some reason, feeling out for the reference points on the haim record feels FUN and on the daft punk record sort of feels obligatory.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link

you can just mentally add "to me" at the end of all my posts obv

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link

well there's a whole conceptual layer with RAM that does that obv, this seems a lot more natural in its selection and incorporation of influences

gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link

yeah i keep wanting to come up with the secret but most obvious thing they are cribbing from that everyone has overlooked heretofore. it's peter gabriel! no wait, bob seger!

goole, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link

"at various times in my life i've thought "ok, as a society we've figured it out, THIS is what great music sounds like, let's just DO THIS FROM NOW ON" - i remember DJP had similar sentiments about sonz of a loop da loop era hardcore at some point. and i feel like haim has lit upon this particular constellation of 80s pop with the same idea. as if everything since john cougar mellencamp has been a constant, annealing process of refinement."

That's an interesting take on your embrace of this record--I like it.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link

more bands should imitate mid eighties Coog actually!

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link

Scarecrow meets Cupid and Psyche '85 would be my lode star.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link

they don't sound like one thing. which is to their credit. or one obvious thing. like, you know, Chic!

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link

the haerts ep sounds way more like the fleetwood mac pastiche that everyone says this sounds like

max, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link

i remember DJP had similar sentiments about sonz of a loop da loop era hardcore at some point.

you say this like I don't still feel this way

Bitch Fantastic (DJP), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link

please accept my apologies for mischaracterizing the durability of your hardcore affections DJP!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

Haerts has some Mac ghosts as well, but I wouldn't say they're full blown pastiche.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link

Here's my favorite Mac pastiche group: https://soundcloud.com/lover-lover

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6mXw56q3hU

itunes exclusive track comin atcha

piscesx, Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:24 (ten years ago) link

how is it an itunes exclusive if it's on youtube

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Thursday, 10 October 2013 12:45 (ten years ago) link

^

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2013 12:47 (ten years ago) link

When does the next album come out?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link

I had the same thought about this vs. RAM (even though I like RAM more than most of ILM, I think). Daft Punk's record is self-consciously a tribute, and Haim's tributes are all unselfconscious. More "We like to make music that sounds like this," than "HEY, remember when music sounded like this?"

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 10 October 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

(And thankfully no spoken-word cameo from Trevor Horn or whoever.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 10 October 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link

"honey & i" somehow reminds me simultaneously of "mandinka" and mellencamp

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

Reflecting on their concert from 5 days ago, I think ILX has underestimated the impact of 2 more ethnomusicology degrees than the average band. They're not R&B Fleetwood Mac, they're Juice Newton produced at Real World Studios.

جهاد النكاح (Sanpaku), Saturday, 12 October 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link

veddy eeenteresting

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 October 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link

teena marie

bert newtown, Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link

^^^ I listened to them last night for the first time and thought of teena too.

These guys are great. Love the guitar writing and guitar playing and the irrepressible squirreliness. I'll be listening to this again for sure.

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 12 October 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

ILM year end poll top three

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Saturday, 12 October 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link

I can't think of an album that would stand a better chance of being the ILM end of year number one than this at the moment.

Listening to it for the first time and yeah this a cracking album.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 13 October 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link

Do the album versions of the previously-released singles differ much?

how's life, Sunday, 13 October 2013 10:04 (ten years ago) link

Discuss this picture of Haim and PM David Cameron.

http://www.collapseboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/haim-david-cameron-590x375.jpg

davey, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 07:34 (ten years ago) link

Do the album versions of the previously-released singles differ much?

tbh I didn't even notice "The Wire" was different until it was pointed out on this thread (and I'm still not sure I can tell how it's different). Are any of the other ones sweetened for the LP?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 07:36 (ten years ago) link

~ convert ~

Popture, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 09:45 (ten years ago) link

Finally listened to this. Reminds me more of the Spinanes than I ever would have expected. Hm.

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 11:45 (ten years ago) link


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