I'd probably like the record less if it was more stripped down.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
hi guys what'd I miss
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
And also none of the remixes I've heard are anywhere near as good as the originals.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
The record actually feels stripped down to me compared to the live versions. There's more stuff happening; the sonic-events-per-second rate is higher. But it feels more flat.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link
Or maybe I don't understand "stripped down"
People like DJP, who can't hear out of tune singing.
well if you can't hear the difference between the earlier version of forever and the tuned up version on the album then yeah
― wk, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
Reverend OTM
― monotony, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
agreed. When I heard the remixes last spring I actually got "uhhh" about the album, which is unfair but whatever. I'm glad I was wrong.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link
Their Letterman performance sounds just like the record, just with more bass-face.
Also, this is now easily the album of the year for me. The number of great songs and relentless hooks on this record is overwhelming - enough for an entire career.
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
Also, I really like what Tim said about the rhythm and vocal interplay.
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
are there two different versions of the wire? i thought i heard two different ones. i like the one with the eagles heartache tonight beat. i always wanted someone to use that beat. i like that it reminds me of shania and i think mutt would have made it even bigger. but its cool to get a shania flashback out of nowhere.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
i never see spencer chow posts. i must hang out in the wrong circles.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
there are multiple versions of "The Wire" but they all have the same beat iirc
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
I was thinking roughly the same thing, surprised to see he still posts here. But he's been here all along under other user names.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link
I think I might like this album mostly *because* of the production.
― Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
I only used one other username for a while about 4 years ago (just haven't been posting much). Curious about these other me's!
But anyway, realized I listened to the HAIM record more in a few days than i have RAM in how many months?
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
Curious about these other me's!
Haha, I meant to write "maybe he's been here. . ." Somehow the maybe got lost.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
and a good man you are for this
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link
ok i got curious.
i didn't really expect to like this.
but it's really a great pop album. what can you say? they got the tunes.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link
at various times in my life i've thought "ok, as a society we've figured it out, THIS is what great music sounds like, let's just DO THIS FROM NOW ON" - i remember DJP had similar sentiments about sonz of a loop da loop era hardcore at some point. and i feel like haim has lit upon this particular constellation of 80s pop with the same idea. as if everything since john cougar mellencamp has been a constant, annealing process of refinement.
in this respect it has a lot in common with the daft punk record but for some reason, feeling out for the reference points on the haim record feels FUN and on the daft punk record sort of feels obligatory.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
you can just mentally add "to me" at the end of all my posts obv
well there's a whole conceptual layer with RAM that does that obv, this seems a lot more natural in its selection and incorporation of influences
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
yeah i keep wanting to come up with the secret but most obvious thing they are cribbing from that everyone has overlooked heretofore. it's peter gabriel! no wait, bob seger!
― goole, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
"at various times in my life i've thought "ok, as a society we've figured it out, THIS is what great music sounds like, let's just DO THIS FROM NOW ON" - i remember DJP had similar sentiments about sonz of a loop da loop era hardcore at some point. and i feel like haim has lit upon this particular constellation of 80s pop with the same idea. as if everything since john cougar mellencamp has been a constant, annealing process of refinement."
That's an interesting take on your embrace of this record--I like it.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
more bands should imitate mid eighties Coog actually!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
Scarecrow meets Cupid and Psyche '85 would be my lode star.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
they don't sound like one thing. which is to their credit. or one obvious thing. like, you know, Chic!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
the haerts ep sounds way more like the fleetwood mac pastiche that everyone says this sounds like
― max, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link
i remember DJP had similar sentiments about sonz of a loop da loop era hardcore at some point.
you say this like I don't still feel this way
― Bitch Fantastic (DJP), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link
please accept my apologies for mischaracterizing the durability of your hardcore affections DJP!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link
Haerts has some Mac ghosts as well, but I wouldn't say they're full blown pastiche.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link
Here's my favorite Mac pastiche group: https://soundcloud.com/lover-lover
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6mXw56q3hU
itunes exclusive track comin atcha
― piscesx, Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:24 (ten years ago) link
how is it an itunes exclusive if it's on youtube
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Thursday, 10 October 2013 12:45 (ten years ago) link
^
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2013 12:47 (ten years ago) link
When does the next album come out?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
I had the same thought about this vs. RAM (even though I like RAM more than most of ILM, I think). Daft Punk's record is self-consciously a tribute, and Haim's tributes are all unselfconscious. More "We like to make music that sounds like this," than "HEY, remember when music sounded like this?"
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 10 October 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link
(And thankfully no spoken-word cameo from Trevor Horn or whoever.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 10 October 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
"honey & i" somehow reminds me simultaneously of "mandinka" and mellencamp
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
Reflecting on their concert from 5 days ago, I think ILX has underestimated the impact of 2 more ethnomusicology degrees than the average band. They're not R&B Fleetwood Mac, they're Juice Newton produced at Real World Studios.
― جهاد النكاح (Sanpaku), Saturday, 12 October 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link
veddy eeenteresting
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 October 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link
teena marie
― bert newtown, Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
^^^ I listened to them last night for the first time and thought of teena too.
These guys are great. Love the guitar writing and guitar playing and the irrepressible squirreliness. I'll be listening to this again for sure.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 12 October 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
ILM year end poll top three
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Saturday, 12 October 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
I can't think of an album that would stand a better chance of being the ILM end of year number one than this at the moment.
Listening to it for the first time and yeah this a cracking album.
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 13 October 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link
Do the album versions of the previously-released singles differ much?
― how's life, Sunday, 13 October 2013 10:04 (ten years ago) link
Discuss this picture of Haim and PM David Cameron.
http://www.collapseboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/haim-david-cameron-590x375.jpg
― davey, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 07:34 (ten years ago) link
tbh I didn't even notice "The Wire" was different until it was pointed out on this thread (and I'm still not sure I can tell how it's different). Are any of the other ones sweetened for the LP?
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 07:36 (ten years ago) link
~ convert ~
― Popture, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 09:45 (ten years ago) link
Finally listened to this. Reminds me more of the Spinanes than I ever would have expected. Hm.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 11:45 (ten years ago) link