I'm sure it said "dub" in the print ed., but I might have misread
― mahb, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
i cd've sworn the online verzh said just "dub" the first time i read it but maybe my brain elided the step
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
No, it was "dub step" in the paper last night (xpost)
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
This guy edits the Independent? Wtf?
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
Standard editor clearly thinking "give him enough rope" by running this imo
― sktsh, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
A previous article by the editor of the independenthttp://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/amol-rajan-how-about-a-reggae-anthem-to-inspire-the-nation-8030765.html
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
what a weirdo
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
that this guy is all jah bless, while simon price is all jobless is a national scandal
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
New winner here. Holy fuck.
Near the end of the slow burning “Key/Hole”, for instance, he kicks in a raw cacophony and lets the guitar screech. He may not be playing with a screwdriver or attempting to make Michael Gira’s ears bleed, but throughout Night on Earth, Ranaldo takes a step back and realizes that—oh, that’s right—he was in Sonic Youth. And he thrashed.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:50 (ten years ago) link
Oh, Ranaldo's lyrics don't have the 'storytelling deftness' (actual quote, no shit) of Robert Hunter's? Ignoring for a moment the fact that Robert Hunter rarely wrote 'story' songs, it seems to me this reviewer read Lee's recent piece on the Dead and structured his entire review around the specious idea of Ranaldo and the Dust as a 'jam band,' pesky facts be damned. I get the feeling that if Lee had instead written a billet-doux to, oh, I don't know, Kriss Kross, St John might be complaining that the cadences heard on Last Night on Earth aren't as 'poignantly riveting' as Daddy Mack's.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:52 (ten years ago) link
you tell 'em, son
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:53 (ten years ago) link
has this been linked yet?
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/oct/08/school-of-pop
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:55 (ten years ago) link
from the comments: I kind of rely on well informed Guardian commenters to expand upon my limited range of references, as you have done.
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:16 (ten years ago) link
Almost the only aspect of being paid to write columns that is not highly pleasurable is being scooped.
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:22 (ten years ago) link
old dude be old
― Neil S, Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:27 (ten years ago) link
Amol Rajan should write a book on reggae. What would it be called I wonder?
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link
I'd imagine rereading such dogshit columns before submitting them must be quite painful too, though its clear that the reggae guy doesn't actually reread his stuff before sending it.
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link
He's the editor of the fucking Independent. wtf.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:42 (ten years ago) link
The weird thing is that he actually seems to know quite a lot about reggae - he must have actively worked to come across as so clueless and objectionable.
― Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:46 (ten years ago) link
http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8514227.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/Amol_Rajan_crisps.jpg
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:48 (ten years ago) link
needs some Reggae Reggae Sauce on those crisps
― Neil S, Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:52 (ten years ago) link
andrew collins' blog is the smuggest piece of shit in the world
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:53 (ten years ago) link
do i have to cross out the "s' blog" there?
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 October 2013 10:38 (ten years ago) link
modern chart pop – industrially produced by a risk-averse industry for distracted tweens who generally get to vote for the artists they'd like to perform it – is no longer required to induce academic curiosity
Apples and oranges, this. All of his old examples are art-rock or post-punk, apart from the mighty Boney M.
Likewise this: The National Literary Trust study found that 21.5% of young people agreed with the statement: "I would be embarrassed if my friends saw me read." This jars with my fond teenage memory of poring over lyrics with friends in the gatefold-sleeve era. I'm sure some of the other 78.5% do the equivalent now.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 10 October 2013 10:44 (ten years ago) link
That piece is maddening and lazy and loads of people argued with it beneath the fold and so therefore it generated lots of clicks and so therefore it justified itself as "paid journalism" but really this isn't why I "got into" writing about music, and certainly not what I read it for. Also his books are wincingly poor "Do u remember spangles and white dog poo?" dogshit.
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 10 October 2013 10:47 (ten years ago) link
modern clickbait "journalism" – industrially produced by a risk-averse industry for distracted twenty-somethings who generally get to vote for the writers they'd like to perform it – is no longer required to induce academic curiosity
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 October 2013 10:49 (ten years ago) link
he literally writes impassioned 4000 word posts where he cries about people not putting their british library carrier bags back in the box properly
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 10 October 2013 10:54 (ten years ago) link
I'm wary of the phrase "clickbait" tbh. There's always been a need for eyeballs and a disappointing willingness to run sloppily argued "provocative" columns, long before the internet. AC isn't a product of the SEO era - he was writing like this in the NME 20 years ago.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 10 October 2013 10:57 (ten years ago) link
30 years ago.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 October 2013 11:04 (ten years ago) link
I'm wary of the phrase "clickbait" tbh.
Just makes me think of the song(?) "Slug Bait" by Throbbing Gristle
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 October 2013 11:09 (ten years ago) link
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1391487_10151956929613834_974845207_n.jpg
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 10 October 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
Tory reggae could totally be a thing.
― In times of osterity, these Eton-educated poshboys (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 11 October 2013 09:23 (ten years ago) link
Jah Trustafar-i
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Friday, 11 October 2013 09:33 (ten years ago) link
How long shall they kill our profits/ while we stand aside and look
― In times of osterity, these Eton-educated poshboys (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 11 October 2013 10:43 (ten years ago) link
New winner
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/10358000/Dave-Berry-the-10-albums-every-man-should-own.html
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:13 (ten years ago) link
Fuck me.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:16 (ten years ago) link
nggghhh
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:16 (ten years ago) link
I like "Survivor's legendary basslines" but, "quite simply", it's all Partridge gold.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:18 (ten years ago) link
During some of the naughtiest times in my life this has been the soundtrack that has turned me into "the special cuddle king".
I can't even begin to get my head around this.
― Many guys will try to get your attention by giving a manly stare (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:22 (ten years ago) link
The first line is a quote just to be clear, I forgot the italics.
― Many guys will try to get your attention by giving a manly stare (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:23 (ten years ago) link
i'm reading this as excellent satire on a certain vision of masculinity, surely?
― footballer of the future (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link
This guy should be chained to a lambretta and thrown in a slurry pit.
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:46 (ten years ago) link
"I didn't want to include "best ofs" in this list it's cheating. But if I'm honest I don't know enough about the great John to recommend a specific album."
I ...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:49 (ten years ago) link
Actually, I'd have more respect for him if he said "These are the only albums I own"
― Mark G, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:50 (ten years ago) link
Anyway, truth time:
How Many Of These Do You Own?
(you can only answer if you're a MAN mind)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:51 (ten years ago) link
(five)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:52 (ten years ago) link
hmmm, allow me to qualify what i was about to post "only owning 10 obvious churl-rock records is exactly part of that vision of masculinity i was thinking about."
― footballer of the future (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:53 (ten years ago) link
Our Amber owns the Ed Sheeran one, but she's not a MAN so it did not count. (oh, and she's not me obv)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:53 (ten years ago) link
I don't actually think it's wrong to pick a JLH compilation and if I was trying to introduce him to someone, that would be the way I'd go too. This guy is still a bellend though.
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:54 (ten years ago) link
Dave Berry needs to know it's okay to not really be into music much. also didn't he put out some records in the 60s?
― footballer of the future (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 10:55 (ten years ago) link