I can go back to this record and my feelings of "Am I really hearing this?" are as intense as the first day it came out, if not more so now that Lou is gone.
― pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
the hate for this album was so weird
― Treeship, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 01:31 (nine years ago) link
it prevails
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 01:44 (nine years ago) link
people r small minded and dumb as shit.
― Inf (latebloomer), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 06:35 (nine years ago) link
I'd go on about genre snobbery, classism and lack of imagination among music writer types, but I'm lazy.
― Inf (latebloomer), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 06:50 (nine years ago) link
Have noticed a lot of ppl I know talking abt giving this another go thanks to that Bowie comment (and a few ppl saying "Yeah I like it too!"
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 06:52 (nine years ago) link
*)
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 06:53 (nine years ago) link
I've been listening to this a lot lately. It holds up.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 11:20 (nine years ago) link
the opening lines of junior dad are just so incredible to me.
Would you come to meIf I was half drowningAn arm above the last waveWould you come to meWould you pull me upWould the effort really hurt youIs it unfair to ask youTo help pull me up
Would you come to meWould you pull me upWould the effort really hurt youIs it unfair to ask youTo help pull me up
― Treeship, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 14:02 (nine years ago) link
yeah i really thought about that song after seeing his sister talk about the ECT he went through and all the terrible mental health "treatment" he received as a child
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:10 (nine years ago) link
that motherfucker anthony fantano* in his vlog review of bish bosch said that the lyrics on that albun were even more "meaningless" than lou reed's lyrics on lulu (har har). to me, so much of lulu seems raw and even transparently personal.
*sorry if you post here, but really dude
― Treeship, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link
and yeah, the part of junior dad when he talks about looking in the mirror as an older person and seeing his father's reflection -- "say hello to junior dad" -- is just so chilling. people talk about reed's decline but over the years he really refined his clipped, conversational verse into something so pure and weaponlike. "junior dad" is the worthy heir to "berlin" for sure even if the rest of the album is uneven (with some other great moments too!)
― Treeship, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link
from day one i have basically advocated the idea that lulu is his lyrical peak, there's the feeling that so much of what he'd been working toward throughout his career is finally being realized
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
it's also a notable album for metallica, the fast/heavy parts are the first time they sound like a honest to god rock band playing a room together since like, jeez, master of puppets probably, and i know lou didn't really let them rehearse so it's very instinctual; they sound like they are holding on for dear life (C'MON JAMES!) instead of cutting and pasting riffs in protools
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
today i noticed trujillo's really subtle bass work in the opening of "cheat on me"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link
lol remember lulu
― markers, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link
lolu
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
i'm a passionateless wave upon the sea
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link
In a piece published on the day of Reed's death, Robert Christgau wrote that Lulu "probably didn't get enough" "mazel tov" from critics.[39]
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link
Mistress Dread is awesome btw
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
https://frinkiac.com/meme/S03E19/401783.jpg?lines=A+puny+body+and+a+tiny+dick%0AA+little+dog+can+make+you+sick
― I'm currently in an online essential oil class! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 February 2016 22:01 (eight years ago) link
lol
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 February 2016 22:02 (eight years ago) link
shout out to ilxor cbesinger for that
― I'm currently in an online essential oil class! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 February 2016 22:08 (eight years ago) link
if we polled this again I imagine there'd be more Iced Honey and Brandenburg Gate votes,
― niels, Friday, 5 February 2016 12:52 (eight years ago) link
comma nothing
I'm pumping bloodLike a common state work-ah
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 November 2016 02:44 (seven years ago) link
C'mon James
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 30 April 2017 05:00 (seven years ago) link
What?
― Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2017 11:50 (seven years ago) link
Wake up
The dream is over
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 30 April 2017 13:58 (seven years ago) link
I know three babies with the name Lulu right now. The Lulu Generation.
― tylerw, Sunday, 30 April 2017 14:34 (seven years ago) link
Post from last night inspired by watching a 2013 Lou show in Prague where they do some Lulu stuff and a really great set of favs and obscurities. On Amazon Prime, really awesome
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 30 April 2017 15:09 (seven years ago) link
Oh nice! Yeah he was pulling out some random old tunes towards the end...
― tylerw, Sunday, 30 April 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link
Wow man, thanks! That concert on Amazon was really,really good. In fact, I'd go out on a limb and say, that besides the VU, that was the finest backup band I've seen/heard with our Lou. In some ways it was reminiscent of Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds/Smile tours. There must be a sort of mutual appreciation society thingy that goes on. The younger musicians look up to the auteur and want his praise. While the auteur gets a group who are willing to execute his every whim, and give his music a nice shot in the arm, energy wise etc.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 1 May 2017 04:15 (seven years ago) link
And next i want to give Lulu another try. Those songs were among the best stuff, in that film. Also, i don't believe I've ever seen/heard Lou so relaxed. He always used to (seemingly nervously adlibbing all sorts of "ooo-ooo, hey-heys, and nah-nahs, between and sometimes in lieu of actual lyrics, which I hated. There was very little of that here. There was a ton of it in that VU reunion CD/video, if u need an example. Not a Mettalica fan at all, but I will give it a try.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 1 May 2017 04:32 (seven years ago) link
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, April 30, 2017 10:09 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Haha the best part of this is the deep cuts are like...deep cut doesn't even really do it justice...squeezed in between "Waiting For the Man" and a Lulu song is..."Senselessly Cruel" from "Rock N'Roll Heart"!
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 1 May 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link
this must be from when the guy from barenaked ladies was in lou's band.
― tylerw, Monday, 1 May 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link
Hmm maybe i will watch this
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 May 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link
is there an audio boot somewhere? (or a recommended recording from a similar show?)
― niels, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 08:03 (seven years ago) link
Oh, wouldn’t it be lovely?
― the ghost of markers, Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link
Sorry Niels, don't have a lead on a boot at the moment. I would b interested in one as well. I still can't believe how good that was/is. I will certainly let ILM know, if I find any in the future. I can easily imagine Tylerw posting one on his wonderfully hip (in the original non pejorative sense) boot mp3 blog.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 8 May 2017 03:01 (seven years ago) link
"Hip" in the sense that, the musical taste as displayed there is exquisite. And the writing style in the posts is friendly, informative, and intersting. P.s. I've been a lurker here for years and am very happy to have finally joined a couple weeks ago.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 8 May 2017 03:10 (seven years ago) link
Welcome! And you’re posting in this thread, so you’re already doing something right.
― the ghost of markers, Monday, 8 May 2017 04:00 (seven years ago) link
thanks for the kind words -- i don't think i have any 2011 Lou bootlegs, actually. I do have somewhere a tape of Lou and Laurie Anderson playing a duo show with a handful of (radically different) Lulu tunes included.
I watched that concert doc on Amazon prime last week -- pretty good! Kind of an interesting vulnerability onstage for Lou, and yeah lots of weird song choices.
― tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link
welcome vryna!
#teamlulu always needs more members
― I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link
strange to see rob wasserman jamming on things like "mistress dread" but i guess that guy was up for pretty much anything
― tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:23 (seven years ago) link
In a way the VU to Lulu tour (best name ever) seems almost like a bit of the throwback to 70s Lou, with a big band, horns, backing vocals, long extended jams on just about every song. Lou esp is killing in on the Lulu tunes.
The band is so weird, dudes from Ratdog, Zorn, Barenaked Ladies...
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link
totally. i actually think a great book would be like a big oral history interviewing Lou sidemen/women from over the decades.
― tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link
i'm sure fernando saunders has good stories. and michael fonfara ... i just looked him up and saw he's canadian too -- Lou had a thing for keyboard players from up there i guess. that canuck soul, right?
― tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link
where was primary female backing vocalist? (she kinda looked like she should be fronting a late 90s band that liked Get Up Kids a lot), she was great
― I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link
Havent checked the Prague recording but I attended the Amsterdam gig of the VU to Lulu tour. Joan as Policewoman was the support act and did (some) vocals during Lou's gig.
― willem, Monday, 8 May 2017 17:44 (seven years ago) link