Velvet Underground - Loaded - The Poll

This record contains Lou's best vocals.

Missed this poll but amazed that Train Round the Bend came up last.

Sooo here you go -- they just announced a six disc special edition:

LOADED: RE-LOADED 45TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION

Disc One: Loaded Remastered Disc Two: Loaded Remastered:
1. "Who Loves The Sun"
2. "Sweet Jane" - Full Length Version
3. "Rock & Roll" - Full Length Version
4. "Cool It Down"
5. "New Age"
6. "Head Held High"
7. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill"
8. "I Found A Reason"
9. "Train Round The Bend"
10. "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'"
Session Outtakes:
11. "I'm Sticking With You" - New Remix
12. "Ocean"
13. "I Love You"
14. "Ride Into The Sun"

Disc Two: Loaded Remastered:
Promotional Mono Version

1. "Who Loves The Sun"
2. "Sweet Jane" - Full Length Version
3. "Rock & Roll" - Full Length Version
4. "Cool It Down"
5. "New Age"
6. "Head Held High"
7. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill"
8. "I Found A Reason"
9. "Train Round The Bend"
10. "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'"
Singles and B-Sides
11. "Who Loves The Sun"
12. "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'"
13. "Rock & Roll" *
14. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" *

Disc Three: Demos, Early Versions and Alternate Mixes
Demos
1. "Rock & Roll" - Demo
2. "Sad Song" - Demo
3. "Satellite Of Love" - Demo
4. "Walk And Talk" - Demo
5. "Oh Gin" - Demo
6. "Ocean" - Demo
7. "I Love You" - Demo
8. "Love Makes You Feel Ten Feet Tall" - Demo Remix
9. "I Found A Reason" - Demo
Early Versions
10. "Cool It Down" - Early Version, Remix
11. "Sweet Jane" - Early Version, Remix
12. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" - Early Version, Remix
13. "Head Held High" - Early Version, Remix
14. "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'" - Early Version, Remix
Alternate Mixes
15. "Who Loves The Sun" - Alternate Mix
16. "Sweet Jane" - Alternate Mix
17. "Cool It Down" - Alternate Mix
18. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" - Alternate Mix
19. "Train Round The Bend" - Alternate Mix
20. "Head Held High" - Alternate Mix
21. "Rock & Roll" - Alternate Mix

Disc Four: Live At Max's Kansas City
Remastered

1. "I'm Waiting For The Man"
2. "White Light/White Heat"
3. "I'm Set Free"
4. "Sweet Jane"
5. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill"
6. "New Age"
7. "Beginning To See The Light"
8. "I'll Be Your Mirror"
9. "Pale Blue Eyes"
10. "Candy Says"
11. "Sunday Morning"
12. "After Hours"
13. "Femme Fatale"
14. "Some Kinda Love"
15. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" - Version 2

Disc Five: Live At Second Fret,
Philadelphia, 1970

1. "I'm Waiting For The Man"
2. "What Goes On"
3. "Cool It Down"
4. "Sweet Jane"
5. "Rock & Roll"
6. "Some Kinda Love"
7. "New Age"
8. "Candy Says"
9. "Head Held High"
10. "Train Round The Bend"
11. "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'"

*previously unreleased

Disc Six: Audio DVD
96/24 Hi-Resolution Surround Sound Remix
96/24 Hi-Resolution Stereo Downmix
96/24 Hi-Resolution Original Stereo Mix

Second Fret getting a legit release! That's a nice bonus.

Jesus they should just stop already.

But wait 'til you hear what's in store for the six-disc edition of Squeeze !

Disc Two: Loaded Remastered:
Promotional Mono Version

1. "Who Loves The Sun"
2. "Sweet Jane" - Full Length Version
3. "Rock & Roll" - Full Length Version

whoa! What "Promotional Mono"? That had the "Full Length" versions? I don't think so.

I know "Who loves the sun" and "Oh Sweet Nuthin" came out in mono on the single (I have one), but .. Pictures! Or, it never happened.

ha, it does really annoy me that the *actual* version of sweet jane (you know, the one that was on the record for 25+ years) is not even included. as i think i've bellyached elsewhere, the heavenly wine & roses bridge is great as part of the song, but they really blow it on the "full length version" -- drumming is terrible, backing vocals are screwy etc. maybe this fake mono version will improve it but i'm not holding my breath.

OTM, and please tell me the original album version of "New Age" is on one of those 6 CDs.

Curious if the "Rock and Roll" and "Ocean" "demos" on disc 3 are the VU/Another View recordings.

probably from the fully loaded set

Oh, right...I don't listen to that second disc too much.

ha, it does really annoy me that the *actual* version of sweet jane (you know, the one that was on the record for 25+ years) is not even included. as i think i've bellyached elsewhere, the heavenly wine & roses bridge is great as part of the song, but they really blow it on the "full length version" -- drumming is terrible, backing vocals are screwy etc. maybe this fake mono version will improve it but i'm not holding my breath.

― tylerw, Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:44 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc, Reed complained about the edit, saying it ruined the song...which, of course, didn't prevent him from only playing that version of it live for several decades.

I don't mind the restored edit myself (ha, and I actually like the drumming!), but what's jarring is the mix. It sounds like when the edit was restored, it was newly-mixed from the multitracks and then shoehorned into the original 2-track mixdown.

Sounds like a runthrough to me, guide vocals and all, either the original edited section was lost or else it was edited prior to vocals and overdubs being added, in other words Lou was in on it?

whoa, I don't know my VU lore here, is the version on Peel Slowly the "bad" full length version? I never heard Loaded before getting the box when it came out so I don't know the other, original version; maybe I'll like another version more?

didn't prevent him from only playing that version of it live for several decades.

He was playing the full length version with the Tots in 1972.

yeah i think that was the last time he did it til the VU reunion in 93... did he keep playing it live like that afterwards though? i can't remember now...

guess he didn't make metallica learn it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JucJAuDKqKw

whoa, I don't know my VU lore here, is the version on Peel Slowly the "bad" full length version?

No, the first time was on the "Fully Loaded" edition.

I assume that Lou would have been involved with this new box, initially at least. Being how they fixed that version of "I can't stand it" from the "eighties mix" to the "what it would have been like if they'd mixed it in the sixties" mix on the last box, um, yeah optimism.

this looks really pointless

xp no it was on peel slowly and see first

"I Stand Corrected: F it is!"

Um, yeah the full length tracks for Sweet Jane and New Age were on Peel Slowly and See.

Funny, everywhere seems to talk about the re-instated long version of "Rock and Roll" but I can't find any version that isn't 4:45 ono.

There was an even longer (Full-er Length?) "New Age" on the 2nd disc of Fully Loaded.

xp yeah, i'm not sure what they're talking about re: rock and roll ... there's a longer guitar break in one of the fully loaded version i think?
longer new age never seemed all that monumental to me.
dunno, still seems crazy to me that in six discs, there's not one version of the album in its original form.

_Loaded: Special Edition_, with new edits from Lucasfilm.

ha yeah... over on twitter someone said: "it's like finding out "Like a Rolling Stone" had an extra verse and adding it to all future versions of Highway 61"

dunno, still seems crazy to me that in six discs, there's not one version of the album in its original form.

Presumably, they're saving this for the inevitably forthcoming ORIGINAL ALBUMS boxed set.

UnLoaded edition

followed by the ReLoaded edition, with all instrumental backing tracks replaced with Metallica

as lou always intended

special edition includes hologram of Mo Tucker doing the Ostrich

Just noticed that this new version of Max's loses two tracks ("Who Loves The Sun?" & "Sweet Jane"--both from the second set) from the deluxe edition.

yeah, pretty lame... but we gotta have both versions of lonesome cowboy bill!
They could've done away w/ the surround sound disc (which is not something i'm set up for) and included the full Max's tape + rehearsals + the Freeman tape on a sixth disc.

followed by the ReLoaded edition, with all instrumental backing tracks replaced with Metallica

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:05 (57 minutes ago) Permalink

Just wait until you hear Hetfield's vocals on "New Age"!

Hey, remember when the self-titled/3rd box came out, and we were all, "Pfft, only part of the Matrix recordings?! They'll probably release a Matrix box a year later so we have to re-buy that shit."

Welp,
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014WIZP96?ref_=sr_1_3&s=music&qid=1441415763&sr=1-3&tag=viglink20252-20&pldnSite=1

Whoa weird. Thought they would want to space that stuff out but I guess not.

some days this is my favorite Velvets album, and they're definitely one of my all time favorite bands, but I still won't be buying this. It could just be reissue / boxset burnout, but this tracklist looks very meh to me. I do sorta wanna hear the mono versions (would these be 'fold down' style, then?) and the demos, I guess.

I'm happy if that Matrix box turns out to be real.

I do sorta wanna hear the mono versions (would these be 'fold down' style, then?)

It'd probably have to be--no way would Atlantic have been spending money on a proper mono mix when the format was for all intents and purposes dead for an act like the VU.

Anyone get this yet? The price is sorta reasonable, but I already have the original album and Live at Max's, and I have no earthly use for 5.1 DVD surround sound or whatever the hell it is. But the demo disc and mono disc have me considering it. I bet the booklet is cool, too...

Thought revive would be about new Lou bio.

This Max's remaster sounds WAY better than the previous one

I just had a little moment when "Pale Blue Eyes" from the Max's set popped up on shuffle. The first half Lou sings in what I consider his "Velvets" voice, a little high, maybe a tiny bit strained, but still "singing". The second half is in his solo voice, more declamatory, a little behind the beat, a little clipped and sarcastic. I am sure he does it in other sports, just this particular instance really stood out to me.

The Max's set was also probably the first VU record I ever owned, cuz I always deferred to live records when I was a teenager cuz my budget was limited and live records usually provided value, plus I was such a Who nut that I was convinced that every band's live record was like "Live at Leeds", really raw, awesome vers of songs that were slicked up in the studio.

But so, I never really loved this record and I am sure for 6 months or so I was all "the Velvet Underground? Talk about to overrated!" to anyone who would listen but I've always been fascinated by it. The shoddy recording, the shoddy playing...it is such an amazing document of people not giving a shit about a band who in just a few yrs seemingly everyone would be obsessed with.

yeah i find max's pretty charming these days, though it's far from the incredible heights of Live 1969/Matrix Tapes. and yeah, as a kid, both max's and live 1969 really made me re-think how a great (the greatest?) band (or any artist) could be totally overlooked in their time.

& yeah, it's interesting how different lou's vocalizing is on the Max's tape than anywhere else -- more emotive, maybe a bit more generic, but still pretty great.

Always wondered why Lou spells love with a 'w' in "Cool it Down." Is it supposed to be a reference to radio station call letters? That's the only explanation I can come up with. Anybody?

Ditto. I think that's the best explanation too.

that moment toward the beginning of "rock & roll" when THE SONG GETS LOUDER ON ITS OWN