I know it's a very basic musical move, but the one thing about Chrissie's voice that totally kills me is when she spreads a word at the end of a line over two or three notes ending up on the root note of the chord in that low register she has. And she does that all the damn time and I should be tired of it but no, not at all.
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
what is the hole?
― OutdoorFish, Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
It is a mystery!
Anyhow, this greatest hits is not perfect is it? A few clunkers perhaps, I could certainly live without the UB40 stuff.
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
"Kid" forever and for always.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
Album wasn't on Spotify afaict so I made a playlist for it:http://open.spotify.com/user/lumpygravy/playlist/2sMVIv4rXG1oLTJKXLuGpZ
What the hell is this Spiritual High garbage?
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Thursday, 14 November 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
Not as good as the Donna Summer version of that song, that's for sure
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Thursday, 14 November 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
"Back on the Chain Gang" has my favorite bridge ever
― rip van wanko, Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
YES! It has
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 15 November 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
I was gonna vote "Day after Day"
but.
― Mark G, Friday, 15 November 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link
"Brass In Pocket" is like one of the greatest songs of all time, so that.
― Bee OK, Friday, 15 November 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link
goddamn it I may listen to Pretenders tonight
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 November 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link
In the absence of "Tattooed Love Boys" and "Mystery Achievement," it's "Talk of the Town."
i don't know "tradition of love" but i'll need to listen to that more closely again later.
That is the absolute hidden gem on Get Close.
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 15 November 2013 02:25 (ten years ago) link
the synths are gunky but her bending notes is as thing of wonder (lo-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ooove)
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 November 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link
Talk Of The Town
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 15 November 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link
is her vibrato rated by actual singers? because it sounds so unusually slow and controlled to me.
god i love her voice, vulnerable or bulletproof and authoritative, whenever or however it suits her.
― why is it i'm diggin your played out rhyme scenes (Hunt3r), Friday, 15 November 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link
talk of the town one of the greatest songs ever written by anyone
― kel's vintage port (electricsound), Friday, 15 November 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link
^^^^ especially the unexpected "I want you-uh-HOOOO" in the last verse
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 November 2013 03:46 (ten years ago) link
"Night in My Veins" is one of the greatest late-career songs ever (or what I think of as late career -- I realize we are now farther away from "Night in My Veins" than "Night in My Veins" was from "Brass in Pocket"). But I'm still going to vote "Message of Love."
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 15 November 2013 03:48 (ten years ago) link
"Night in My Veins" was my first new Pretenders song, and it lived up to whatever idea I'd formed about them.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 November 2013 11:57 (ten years ago) link
yeah, I can't express how much I love this song. Once in a while I forget how good it is, then hear it again and get bowled over by Hynde's singing or the guitars or lines like "You arrived like a day/and passed like a cloud"
― col, Friday, 15 November 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
"Chain Gang" is my automatic answer and i'm comfortable with it.
― a strident purist when it comes to band-related shirts (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 November 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
Love "Chain Gang." Would also consider "Don't Get Me Wrong" and even "Middle of the Road." "Kid" is kind of a masterpiece, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 November 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
"You arrived like a day/and passed like a cloud"
"I made a weesh"
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 16 November 2013 03:57 (ten years ago) link
"ahnd said it ow-loud"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 November 2013 04:01 (ten years ago) link
"don't get me wrong" is the best.
my folks had get close on cassette, i was taken aback years later when i got the cd and discovered that "don't get me wrong" was not the album opener.
― brimstead, Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:48 (ten years ago) link
Aside from generally perfect pop construction and emotional connection, I have noticed that many of the Pretenders peaks have immaculate bridges.
― MatthewK, Sunday, 17 November 2013 10:03 (ten years ago) link
folks had get close on cassette, i was taken aback years later when i got the cd and discovered that "don't get me wrong" was not the album opener.
"My Baby" is pretty sweet though.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 November 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link
listening to brass in pocket again and i'm probably the last person on the planet to have this thought but it sounds like it could have been a massive influence on karen o, both in the vocals and maybe the whole persona too?
― but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Sunday, 17 November 2013 12:47 (ten years ago) link
I think Chrissie Hynde has been a massive influence on almost every singer, but particularly female singers.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 November 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link
ah that might be a bit too broad a statement
― but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Sunday, 17 November 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link
this is tough. "Don't Get Me Wrong" narrowly over "Back On The Chain Gang," "Middle of the Road," "Night In My Veins," etc.
― some dude, Sunday, 17 November 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
xpost Hyperbole for sure, but her influence is pervasive nonetheless. I'd say she's influenced at least ... 321 singers.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 November 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
Where's the write in option for Tattooed Love Boys?
― BlackIronPrison, Sunday, 17 November 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
stop snifflin'!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 November 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
Fuck it, I'm going for 'Kid'. Such an incredibly hurt, but simultaneously beutifully gentle song.
― Mule, Sunday, 17 November 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
I never liked "Don't Get Me Wrong." After the onslaught/radio saturation of the Learning To Crawl singles, and eagerly waiting to hear what they'd come up with next, this twee, gently jaunty romp was a huge disappointment.
(Not that when they rocked out in '86 it was much better, cf "Room Full Of Mirrors")
So, "Middle Of The Road."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 17 November 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
yeah I gotta admit I'm surprised by the affection for "Don't Get Me Wrong," although I think it's perfect.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 November 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
I'll be the voice of dissent there -- Ive never warmed up to "Don't Get Me Wrong." I won't go quite as far as saying I hate it.
― He got...JACKED UP!!!!! (WilliamC), Sunday, 17 November 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
"Don't Get Me Wrong" is actually their 2nd most popular track on Spotify (also their 5th, which if you added them together would put it at #1 ahead of "I'll Stand By You").
― some dude, Sunday, 17 November 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
if you asked me how many rock singers since Chrissie Hynde have been influenced by her i'd sooner say "not nearly enough" than "all of them"
― some dude, Sunday, 17 November 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
tbh i probably don't listen to the right kind of music most of the time to notice her influence. i mentioned karen o already but who would be some other singers that have an obvious chrissie h influence?
― but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Sunday, 17 November 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link
as for don't get me wrong, i'm not a big fan of the twinkly keyboard bits, but that guitar riff is maddeningly catchy and her voice just floats over the top of it in such a glorious way. and yes - that bridge again... all sounds so effortless
― but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Sunday, 17 November 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
I find that the singer from the Dum Dum Girls does a great Chrissie.
― a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Sunday, 17 November 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
i'm not sure if it's that karen o has been influenced by chrissie hynde or that their voices just happen to have the exact same timbre. or maybe it's both. either way, "ma
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Sunday, 17 November 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link
...either way, "maps" would easily fit on this very greatest-hits album that we're discussing.
Karen O. reminds me of the They Might Be Giants lyric "do you sing like Olive Oyl on purpose? you guys must be into the Eurythmics!"
― some dude, Sunday, 17 November 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
Keep thinking I might should have voted for "Middle of The Road"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 17 November 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
She's still sui generis as a vocalist. Forget the women -- more men should try her stylings.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 November 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
I saw them in 2006, opening for the Who. Her voice hadn't changed at all since 1980. It was eerie.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 17 November 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXKXBsZv3r4
This should be on here..
― Mark G, Sunday, 17 November 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link
2000 Miles is that song one where I looked at the title and thought um whut? and then i played it and was instantly all OH SHIT IT'S THIS ONE! I LOVE THIS ONE!
― but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Sunday, 17 November 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
It badly needed some editing
I'm sad to say I switched off after ten minutes of not much happening - will try again.
― Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Monday, 20 February 2017 10:07 (seven years ago) link
You didn't miss much, it was a flabby mess, with too much Sandra Bernhard for a start. The performance bits were great though
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Monday, 20 February 2017 11:09 (seven years ago) link
It was a bit of a disappointment and a missed opportunity overall. Tough there were some interesting bits like the performances and also her paintings.
I enjoyed her autobiography a lot, especially when it sped up after she leaves Kent State University. Her descriptions of arriving and living in London show her strong visual side.
― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Monday, 20 February 2017 13:34 (seven years ago) link
She has such a great way with melody, which is what I think helped "Dark Sunglasses." I think "Boots of Chinese Plastic" was more "Pretenders-y," though, which I guess makes sense, since "Sunglasses" was from her solo album, whatever difference the distinction makes, since "Break Up the Concrete" doesn't even feature Martin Chambers.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 February 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link