Yeah, Singles was the album I grew up with - though my dad also had Get Close (love My Baby and Hymn To Her in partic)
― Vic Arpeggio, Private Investigator (stevie), Sunday, 17 November 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link
my dad had learning to crawl (almost definitely one of the last albums he ever bought) and the first one, they were one of a handful of new wave acts that crossed over enough that even my dad owned an album or two by them - the cars, the police, blondie, rick springfield.
― balls, Monday, 18 November 2013 00:33 (ten years ago) link
My god, Hynde's vocal at the beginning of 2000 Miles! She just kills it.
― Mule, Monday, 18 November 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
it is so pleasing to see all this love for chrissie hynde! i guess i didn't realize the degree of affection people had for her/her singing. i realized the other day that everything i ever needed to learn about women wearing ruffle-fronted shirts, i learned from her. also, hometown pride! she is a hero (except for that awful UB40 collab but hey she's human)
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 18 November 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link
there are TWO not great UB40 collabs on here folks - I Got U Babe and Breakfast In Bed
― but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Monday, 18 November 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
regrettable still, the line "without some little jerk on my back" has been stuck in my head since i was about 7? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDeHAM93fuc
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 18 November 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
Hand to god, I swear that I read an interview with Slash from 20 years ago where he tells this same story, but about the first Pretenders album.
My big awakening happened when I was 14. I'd been trying to get into this older girl's pants for a while, and she finally let me come over to her house. We hung out, smoked some pot and listened to Aerosmith's Rocks. It hit me like a fucking ton of bricks. I sat there listening to it over and over, and totally blew off this girl. I remember riding my bike back to my grandma's house knowing that my life had changed. Now I identified with something." Slash on his passion for rock music[24]
― how's life, Monday, 18 November 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link
I guess they weren't singles, but how are "Precious" and "The Wait" not on this?
I'm going with "Message of Love."
― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
that's why
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link
How do people rate the second album overall? I've always been under the impression it was seen as a disappointing follow up to a classic debut album but listening to it now I think it's not far off the first album. Along with some of their best singles there are some incredible album tracks too like Birds of Paradise, Jealous Dogs and The English Roses.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 01:55 (ten years ago) link
I've tried -- oh I've tried -- but it's blurry, opaque, shoddily written. Take "The Adultress" -- it's all texture and attitude but it sounds secondhand? It doesn't cohere.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 02:01 (ten years ago) link
Most days, I prefer it to the 1st album. The first and last tracks are the only weak ones for me, but it's solid otherwise.
― WilliamC, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 02:12 (ten years ago) link
It's the classic "2nd album review" syndrome..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 07:45 (ten years ago) link
I was A/B'ing "Talk of the Town" and "Don't Get Me Wrong" to see which of the two would get my vote and both of them sound like proto-Smiths songs imo
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 08:01 (ten years ago) link
Oh wow, I'd been wondering why I had This Charming Man stuck in my head!
― peace on earth and mercy mild (how's life), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 10:04 (ten years ago) link
I seem to recall that Johnny Marr was the Pretenders guitarist for one tour (maybe for Packed?)
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 10:09 (ten years ago) link
"Don't Get Me Wrong" is on constant rotation on a Menorcan radio station we used to have on in the car on every family holiday there, so as well as being a legit 10/10 song on its own it also brings back many of the fondest memories I have.
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 11:11 (ten years ago) link
I think Marr was pre-Packed! - he played with the band for a 1987 tour.
― http://i26.tinypic.com/2udyu5e.jpg (stevie), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 11:44 (ten years ago) link
he played on the album and co-wrote "When Will I See You."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 12:07 (ten years ago) link
He actually only played on one single and co-wrote "When Will I See You," but he was already in The The and Electronic by the time Packed! came out.
James Honeyman Scott was apparently his biggest influence, though, so it's not surprising that there are similarities in early Pretenders and The Smiths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmZSuiKu-Nk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9L1SYU93d8
^ here are the songs Marr played with the band.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
voted chain gang, glad to have this off my mind.
― critique by the phantom media (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link
it was the happiest day of your life?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link
Voted "Kid" while trying not to look "Talk Of The Town" in the eyes.
― Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
"Back on the Chain Gang", love that main riff!
― Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep05/articles/classictracks.htm
― critique by the phantom media (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
"Then there were the background vocals, the 'oohs' and 'aahs'. Martin Chambers and Tony Butler did these, but at first Chrissie didn't think their efforts were good enough, so she bent over in front of them and wiggled her bum while they were singing. We all fell about laughing, but I have to say it achieved the right results."
― critique by the phantom media (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link
Kid, for the unforgettable solo tbh
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link
It's like if John, Paul, and George stitched their "The End" solos together but were asked by George Martin to play three variations on jangle.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link
oh that's right i'd forgotten that some of big country were on chain gang xps to hunt3r
― but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
Thinking about what Honeyman Scott and Chrissie could have accomplished in the rest of the 80s makes me sad.
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
ive relistened to chain gang like 10 times now it's still magic for me.
i remember not liking it when it first hit the radio, i thought the oooh ahhs were so cheesy, and pigeons from hell were ...wtf is that about?
― critique by the phantom media (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 21 November 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link
No love for 2,000 Miles or Hymn To Her :(
― but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Thursday, 21 November 2013 00:15 (ten years ago) link
But good work people all the same
kudos to whoever voted for "Night in My Veins.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 November 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link
me! (and i can't believe i'm the only one......)
― Lee626, Thursday, 21 November 2013 00:24 (ten years ago) link
ha! who voted the UB40 collab??
― http://i26.tinypic.com/2udyu5e.jpg (stevie), Thursday, 21 November 2013 07:28 (ten years ago) link
i don't have any massive beef w/UB40 tbh, but still
"Those were the happiest days of my life" - nobody has ever delivered this line more heart-breakingly
― uk cheese board (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 November 2013 08:28 (ten years ago) link
^ TRUTH
― but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Thursday, 21 November 2013 08:37 (ten years ago) link
I could totally see some shit artist piano player covering Hymn to Her and scoring a massive massive Radio 2 friendly hit.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 21 November 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link
What's difficults about Pretenders is that there is some universe in which "2000 Miles" is the greatest song of all time, instead of pulling zero votes against one of the toughest starting fields in existence.
― MatthewK, Friday, 22 November 2013 11:20 (ten years ago) link
uh, nice typo
― MatthewK, Friday, 22 November 2013 11:21 (ten years ago) link
sucks to be just brilliant when amazing exists
― kel's vintage port (electricsound), Friday, 22 November 2013 11:28 (ten years ago) link
my top twenty-five
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 February 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link
"Mystery Achievement" FTW!
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 17 February 2017 03:05 (seven years ago) link
WHERE'S MY SANDY BEACH
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 February 2017 03:11 (seven years ago) link
OTM both for Mystery Achievement at #1 and for Chrissie Hynde being awesome vocalist.
― that's not my post, Friday, 17 February 2017 04:47 (seven years ago) link
ILX correct for once
― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 February 2017 05:08 (seven years ago) link