Jaco Pastorius: S/D.

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I prefer his playing to JP's because it's more often in the service of the music, but I don't think he's as extravagant or unique a talent.

This argument keeps coming up, so I have to ask: have you actually listened to his solo records? I don't know about his Weather Report stuff, I'm not familiar with that, but saying that he isn't playing in the service of music in his own records is simply wrong. Sure, there are a couple of (admittedly good) bass solos, but most of the times he simply plays as a part of the rhythm section, just like a bassist should. This claim would fit far better to Stanley Clarke.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 3 July 2003 06:11 (twenty years ago) link

Jaco got Sam and Dave back together to sing on his first record and did a virtuoso solo version of a Charlie Parker tune, which says quite a bit about his musicial interests.

The live record "Invitation" is worth tracking down. It is better than "Word of Mouth" and features the same band, but has been out of print in the US since the 80s. I've had it on tape since the 80s when my guitar teacher got me into alot of jazz.

earlnash, Thursday, 3 July 2003 11:46 (twenty years ago) link

Haven't read the thread yet so I don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but the (hard to find?) Live in NYC series is great, esp. Vol. 4. It sounds bootleg-ish and raw, which only helps. Vol. 4 is Jaco, Hiram Bullock & Kennwood Dennard...it doesn't feel like 'fusion', more like a rock and r&b band with shit-hot chops when the singer didn't go to a gig (the Them Changes/Purple Haze/Sing a Simple Song medley is to die for).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

(pssst...Alex in NYC...that's the original version of Birdland, WR wrote it)

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 July 2003 23:29 (twenty years ago) link

Thought it might be.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 July 2003 23:34 (twenty years ago) link

(that's the original version of Birdland, WR wrote it -- Jordan ...well, Joe Zawinul did)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 4 July 2003 14:03 (twenty years ago) link

four years pass...

like a real life SHRED SERIES CLIP

what a douche

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25DXcFg1TFo

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i love that shit. he makes some beautiful sounds. he was the real deal.

chaki, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link

he's barely tolerable on joni mitchell stuff but this isn't even good soloing it's just bleeby bleeby bloop ding DING ding

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Joni has said that the reason she liked working with Jaco is that he was one of the only bassists she hired who didn't insist on playing the root.

jaymc, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

mjt otm.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

i love that shit. he makes some beautiful sounds.

OTM.

jim, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Anybody who does a school music workshop drunk as a skunk, refuses to play anything and then covers themselves in correction fluid is classic!

-- dave q, Wednesday, July 2, 2003 11:19 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

chaki, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

lol @ real life shreds. it kinda was

he's killing it here though. after the song he goes solo w/repeater delay on and fucks up some 3rd rock from the stone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm1jdhiwoZs

jaxon, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 06:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Not saying that Third Stone isn't awesome, but Portrait of Tracy is just gorgeous. Holy shit.

five minutes of iguana time (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 06:58 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/story/2012-05-23/metallica-trujillo-movie-jaco-pastorius/55178046/1

I hope this is good. I don't know why Trujillo would want to interview Sting and Santana for it though.

how's life, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

Probably because (per Wikipedia):

After sneaking onstage at a Carlos Santana concert on September 11, 1987, and being ejected from the premises, Pastorius made his way to the Midnight Bottle Club in Wilton Manors, Florida. After reportedly kicking in a glass door after being refused entrance to the club, he was engaged in a violent confrontation with the club bouncer, Luc Havan. Pastorius was hospitalized for multiple facial fractures and injuries to his right eye and left arm. He fell into a coma and was put on life support.

There were initially encouraging signs that he would come out of his coma and recover, but a massive brain hemorrhage a few days later pointed to brain death. Pastorius died on September 21, 1987, aged 35, at Broward General Medical Center in Fort Lauderdale and was buried at Our Lady Queen of Heaven Cemetery in North Lauderdale.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, that doesn't explain Sting. Nothing explains Sting.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

xp: oh shit. I didnt' know about the Santana concert.

how's life, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

Thread bump on the occasion of the 25th anniversary of Jaco's death.

I'd play "Teen Town" in his honor, but I don't have the chops. I'll just listen to it instead, and aspire.

SlimAndSlam, Friday, 21 September 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

original discussion here is actually pretty interesting and has people going into what they actually mean about what they do/don't like about his style! then later it's people going "I hate him he sucks"

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 21 September 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

nu-ilm for ya

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 21 September 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

did anyone here see the film? is it worth it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYE-tm8UBSM

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:07 (eight years ago) link

four years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29R-QdnQNpw

came across this Holiday for Pans record, looks to have been released a considerable time after his passing. This is the first time I've heard any of his records, I'm guessing this isn't particulary representative? Posted it on the bobbins of the past thread before thinking he probably has his own thread

saer, Friday, 7 August 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link


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