Outkast - Hey Ya

Lack of exposure to black culture?
And I think Curtis was just pointing out what was either an inconsistency in your argument or some semantic trouble... whatever, you're just being faux-naif anyway, you strawman

Worried about ending up with a tarnished reputation. Some people care about what others think of them. (fwiw I'm not one of those people)

The Fugitive ha ha ha

(I see whatcher sayin, I guess I just happen to know some really panty-waist PC-types who just don't want their permanent record to bear a scarlet "R")

well I don't think they're the most important group in hip-hop, and I've only heard it once and really didn't think it sounded like indie rock, but I did like it.

That's the thing though; I don't think there's a unified opinion to this supposed "I have black friends" set. It's not like there's a unified I Have Black Friends Party platform or something! People say things for different reasons sometimes.

also probably no one will admit to being in this set.

As for Outkast, I think they occaisionally are a little self-indulgent and perhaps critically overrated, but still I think Aquemini is a great album (and a real hip hop album)...I haven't heard the new one, but Trife I think you'd have to admit that at least early Outkast (Southernplayalistic) was pretty much straight up southern hip hop, and good at that.....

Aaaannnnndddd sexism.

We've got everything going here. Trife: what are some singles you think I should hear but am overlooking?

i don't think real hip-hop is in any danger of ALL going the way of dre, nor sadly do i think that there's any real chance that the indie kids are gonna start to like real hip-hop en masse except in a "ironic" (ne blackface) way anyway.

The girl's only in the video because she's got a great ass. If there was another reason for her presence, she would be facing the camera, instead of pointing her ass at it every time she's seen. So how is appreciating that ass sexist? Should I instead have called her out for her superb delivery of the two lines of dialogue the director gave her?

I can totally understand feeling like that, but I fear the Andre 3000 Quartet album.

The definitive version of Hey Ya can be found at 1'43'' here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItMJtA8vfpw&feature=player_embedded

Wow, that would be excruciating enough if they could sing.

i dont like the song very much. i agree with trife regarding the flaming lips comment. but i also think it has initiated some really interesting discussions regarding tokenism etc, and the people who like the record have said interesting stuff as well
the song also seems kind of mid-late 090s, that genre-hopping thing, 'eclecticism' etc (the bane of the 90s sadly, making everything a muddy nothing, the excreble Beck etc), so in a way this record seems kind of quaint now, a throwback to that time, and, of course, also a throwback to 1970s sitcom music, which is what this sounds like to me.

1970s sitcom music can be a good thing, but i would say not in the case of this record, which feels too much like a spoof of some unknown american comedy show which never travelled across the Atlantic

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, January 1, 2004 6:36 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is kinda otm.

first time i heard this song i pictured it getting MTV2 rotation for a few weeks and zero radio play before they came with some bigger better follow-up hit, still kind of bitter that that didn't happen.

this song's time signature is soooo visionary